Something went wrong with PackageKit (now F16 repos)

[benneque]

Hi!

I'm a Fedora newbie (but used 6 years Gentoo before). I've installed F15 Alpha! Installation was pretty straight forward and had just 1-2 small bugs :)

Now my repository problems / questions:

1. I read somewhere that I can use Fedora rawhide like a rolling release system. Is that right? I know it's bleeding edge. But I should always be with the newest software?!

2. I used KDE Live CD and installed to disk (F15 Alpha), then selected in KPackageKit the Rawhide repository, but now the repositories have changed: There's no more F15 repos, but now F16 repositories.
Is that bad? Will I still get updates ('cause I don't know if the F16 repos will be empty 'til development of F16 starts) ?


Now the questions about things I haven't ever used in Gentoo:
3. Do I need SeLinux on a Single-User-System? Do I need this plus in security if noone else uses my system?

4. What about PulseAudio? In Gentoo Forums everyone says it's ***** ;) I've never used it. And can't think of any advantages for myself. I don't need network transparent audio. I've file servers, so everyone can stream the media-file itself ;)
Am I missing something?



I think that's all for now ;)
Would be really cool if you would / could answer my questions (at least the first 2)!

Thanks

[bob]

moved to Rawhide, since that's what you're running now (whether you wanted to or not, apparently!)

[downer]

2. Yes, having FC16 repositories is normal for now.
yum deplist fedora-release-rawhide
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Finding dependencies:
package: fedora-release-rawhide.noarch 16-0.1
dependency: fedora-release = 16-0.1
provider: fedora-release.noarch 16-0.1

[benneque]

But in KPackageKit now there's only "Rawhide" enabled, and all those F16 Repos are disabled ... should I enable both? Or just F16 or only Rawhide?

If I keep Rawhide enabled (and never ever disable it) will I have something like a rolling release system?

[kurtdriver]

You now have a rolling release. I hope you like blood, cause rawhide can bleed plenty, yours of course. Rawhide is a great opportunity to learn about linux, but probably not a good idea for a day to day computer.

[benneque]

As I mentioned in my 1st post: I am using Gentoo for 6 years now. I know what blood is ;)
git-kernel, systemd, kde alpha, bleeding edge gcc. That rocks!
Though, I know how to use chroot ;)


So... what about SELinux and PulseAudio?
I understood that SELinux protects my system from "evil" programs. But now the first 2 days I only recognized that it prevents konqueror from searching for plugins (flash, etc.) and that kdm and some others try to write to some files they (in my opinion) should, but SELinux prevents it...

What for do I need PulseAudio apart from NetworkAudio? I always used plain Alsa, and it did everything I told it to (nearly nothing, means: it just ran fine!) ;)


Thanks again!


EDIT: now I have a "serious" problem:
I can't install chromium, 'cause yum looks for "http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/chromium/fedora-16/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml" and of course there's no fedora-16 folder

[leigh123linux]

EDIT: now I have a "serious" problem:
I can't install chromium, 'cause yum looks for "http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/chromium/fedora-16/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml" and of course there's no fedora-16 folder

If you think this is a serious problem try editing the repo file to point to the F15 packages :rolleyes:

[benneque]

For me it is kinda serious. Cause I have to test my GWT apps with 4 Browsers (university project): Firefox, Chromium, Safari, IE 9 ( I know, I could install everything under Windows, but I like it more if I can test with at least two browsers while programming )

I hardcoded "fedora-15" in the repo file. Now I get this:
chromium-libs-11.0.679.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libicuuc.so.44()(64bit)
v8-3.1.5-2.20110222svn6902.fc15.x86_64 requires libicuuc.so.44()(64bit)
chromium-11.0.679.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libicudata.so.44()(64bit)
chromium-libs-11.0.679.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libicui18n.so.44()(64bit)
chromium-libs-11.0.679.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libicudata.so.44()(64bit)
v8-3.1.5-2.20110222svn6902.fc15.x86_64 requires libicui18n.so.44()(64bit)
v8-3.1.5-2.20110222svn6902.fc15.x86_64 requires libicudata.so.44()(64bit)
chromium-11.0.679.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libicuuc.so.44()(64bit)
chromium-11.0.679.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libicui18n.so.44()(64bit)

That's probably a problem with rawhide, right? Chromium for F15 wasn't compiled with those rawhide deps :(

What can I do now ?

[Fenrin]

To switch back from F16 to F15 you could install fedora-release-15-0.7 (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=229281) and optionally also fedora-release-rawhide-15-0.7. You probably have to remove the fedora-release*-16*.rpm packages before. Command for this could be:
rpm -e --nodeps fedora-release*16*
But could have dependency problems between rawhide and F15 packages sometimes, if you don't downgrade every *.fc16 packages.

To look for not installed libraries you could use "yum whatprovides */libicuuc.so.44". Are those chromium packages in your standard fedora repos. I can't find them on my F15 alpha; just because of curiosity I don't want to install it.

[benneque]

No they aren't in F15 nor in F16. I had to install the fedora-chromium repo.

Now I'm unsure about all those repos:
I'm now using rawhide, what's the difference to fedora-release-rawhide-15-0.7 ?
I thought rawhide is always rawhide or does every Fedora release have its own rawhide ?

[Fenrin]

on Fedora 15 alpha I have both of these packages installed, but rawhide is disabled by default. It's only installed for the purpose to update to rawhide (F16) or to install certain packages of rawhide.