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childofthefence
29th October 2004, 10:18 PM
Hey, this is my first post here, and i will be the first to admit that i am a newb...I recently deleted my Mandrake 10 because it had a faulty file(coudlnt read ethernet, so i couldnt get online to fix yet). So i just got FC2 and im just about to install it on my other comp. But i just want to make sure that Fc2 has apps for creating websites, graphic design...etc. also i just wanted to know where i can find backgrounds, with transparent themes. Also a good site for getting the little nick nat apps like system moniters(like cpu usage, media, etc....). If you have the time can you please help me out. Ill do my best to understand anything you say...Thanx.

sailor
29th October 2004, 10:24 PM
I think FC has all the things you might want, of course they are going to be different than what you are used to , but they work quite well. These are the ones I use regualrly, I am sure you get many more suggestions form others on the forum.

websites: Quanta Plus and NVU http://freshmeat.net/projects/quantaplus/?branch_id=8709&release_id=175592
http://freshmeat.net/projects/nvu/
graphics: GIMP, Sodipodi, http://freshmeat.net/projects/thegimp/?branch_id=19566&release_id=175785 http://freshmeat.net/projects/sodipodi/
backgrounds: www.kde-look.org or www.gnome-look.org
GkrellM system monitor www.muhri.net

EDIT: I moved this to Fedora Focus since it wasn't a support issue

bob
29th October 2004, 11:16 PM

As far as website maintenance - gFTP takes the place of WSFTP and there are some wsiwyg editors available. Many use Mozilla's excellent tools and here's a link to some others: http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=html+editor&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
Personally, I just use one of the text editors and gFTP to do mine.

childofthefence
30th October 2004, 12:35 AM
thanks alot guys
now just how do i download this stuff once i have linux...and is installation going to be kinda like...i install it runs or is there a command code?

childofthefence
30th October 2004, 01:14 AM
do you suggest Gnome or Kde?

Uhlix
30th October 2004, 01:14 AM
depends if it is an RPM file or not, search for "yum" it is a pretty niffty tool for installing RPMs.

I just started useing Linux so I dont know alot of the neat little tricks just yet. But one thing that is pretty cool is that you can accually just do a command like this

*rpm -vhU http://download.insecure.org/nmap/dist/nmap-3.75-1.i386.rpm*
which would download nmap-3.75-1.i386.rpm from that website and install it, but a version of nmap comes with FC2...was only useing that as an example.

take that for what you will, i to am just starting out so cant give you to much help.

bob
30th October 2004, 01:37 AM
Well, here's a few links to some valuable info that will help you get started:
http://fedoraguide.org/fc2/fc2beginnersguide.html#yumconfigureyummirror
http://www.fedorafaq.org/
http://www.johnmunsch.com/articles/FedoraCoreGettingStarted/
http://foolish.fedorausers.org/rpm/index.html
http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraHOWTO

So, as to how to download and install, you've got Yum, rpm, apt (with the Synaptic gui). Yum and Synaptic are also excellent for updates to existing software.

Gnome vs KDE... They both have a lot of people in their corners. Personally, I've tried both and lately switched to KDE - better graphics & more tweaks. Take your time and try both out. Want to get freaky? Try Windowmaker!

childofthefence
30th October 2004, 01:45 AM
wait um sorry what an rpm and Yum?

childofthefence
30th October 2004, 02:01 AM
o and if i install Fc2 on my laptop will it read my wireless card...and speaking of wireless cards, the comp i would be installing it on would be wireless too

bob
30th October 2004, 02:34 AM
'rpm' refers to 'redhat package manager' which you'll see at the end of a lot of files to be downloaded. When you see one of these, you can install it by using the terminal and the commands (as superuser - su) "rpm -ivh packagename" (or if it's an update of an existing program "rpm -Uvh packagename"). Magically, your computer will then check out the program and attempt to clear up any dependencies before installing it.

'yum' is also command line. It is built into FC and you can modify the /etc/yum.conf to get and install all sorts of programs. Once you have the right repositories listed in your yum.conf, you simply sign in as 'su' and then type "yum install (packagename)" and sit back and watch it do it's thing!

Get to know both 'rpm' and 'yum'. They are going to be the backbone for much of your work in FC & don't worry about learning command line - you'll be a pro in no time. On that subject, three more links for you:
http://linuxsurvival.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=1&meid=-1
http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal#N10076
http://www.linuxcommand.org/

Now, as to wireless - don't have any experience myself, so I'll let someone else tackle that one.

childofthefence
30th October 2004, 02:39 AM
hey thanks bob, i really appreciate it...im sure it wont be as hard as soon as i get used to it...just a quick question though...what do you do on linux?

bob
30th October 2004, 02:47 AM
Actually, I do a little text work as a Town Justice, plus all the usual surfing, web pages, a few games, etc. I started learning Linux after I retired early this year and it's been a fun trip. The first 4 mos was spent in SuSE, which is another 'point and click' OS, like Windoze, so my real education came in July when I fired up FC2 - and if I can learn it at 60'ish, anyone can do it.

sailor
30th October 2004, 03:18 AM
You really should read through all the links that Bob gave you before you start installing, lots of good tips and it will definetly help you have a troublefree install. FC2 is a great OS. I also use Suse 9.1 on a triple boot (WinXP, FC2 and SuSE9.1)
I have tried many versions of linux and Fedora is one of the best...hang around the forum and ask questions, thats how I got through my problems.

Shadow Skill
30th October 2004, 11:01 AM
Welcome aboard, the CLI will become a very good friend in no time, I actually feel wierd not having a terminal opened when I am in windows [I managed to make mine work quite well..I keep forgeting to get the security updates though. :) ] it's just so normal to be using a terminal (That might actually be a bad thing.) that I have no idea what I would do without it. Be sure to come here when you have problems.