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ssidhar
28th September 2010, 11:54 PM
this is just a question again,

how much faster is the new systemd thing than the things currently used for sleeping and shutting down and turning on?

and it's coming out in fedora 15 right?

tox
29th September 2010, 12:05 AM
this is just a question again,

how much faster is the new systemd thing than the things currently used for sleeping and shutting down and turning on?

and it's coming out in fedora 15 right?

it'll be default in F15, however you can still use it in F14, speed differences, probably better than Upstart

JC1DA
29th September 2010, 06:01 AM

But how can i use systemd instead of Upstart on FC 14 beta ?

diamond_ramsey
29th September 2010, 06:07 AM
But how can i use systemd instead of Upstart on FC 14 beta ?

Good question. :)
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Try a review of this -

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-September/015613.html

"...If you are testing systemd in Fedora 14, you will have to pass init=/bin/systemd as a boot option since the current default is upstart..."
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Hope this helps. ;)

AdamW
29th September 2010, 06:58 PM
I wouldn't really recommend doing it at present, F14 isn't set up for it and Lennart hasn't indicated he intends to support systemd in F14 as a non-default init system.

There was no noticeable speed difference between the two in F14 in most configurations. systemd *potentially* allows boot speed to be improved but just using systemd doesn't magically accomplish this; there's various things to be done to optimize the init process once systemd is in place, and that work is planned for F15/F16.

nimnull22
29th September 2010, 07:11 PM
There was no noticeable speed difference between the two in F14 in most configurations. systemd *potentially* allows boot speed to be improved but just using systemd doesn't magically accomplish this; there's various things to be done to optimize the init process once systemd is in place, and that work is planned for F15/F16.

If one is going to "optimize the init process" why not to use upstart and optimize for it? May be this optimization "not magically" will help upstart to boot up fedora quickly?