I am shocked

[nimnull22]

Ok, I got used to read "Development mail list" and check there for the Fedora updates.
Now I read: F-14 Branched report: 20100810 changes, because I update Fedora 14.
So if you take a look in it, it has few updates.

BUT, when I decide to do it, I got:

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Package Arch Version Repository Size
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Installing:
kernel-PAE i686 2.6.35-3.fc14 updates-testing 22 M
Updating:
GConf2 i686 2.31.7-1.fc14 updates-testing 994 k
GConf2-gtk i686 2.31.7-1.fc14 updates-testing 24 k
autocorr-en noarch 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 172 k
cheese i686 2.31.1-1.fc14 updates-testing 179 k
cheese-libs i686 2.31.1-1.fc14 updates-testing 4.3 M
device-mapper i686 1.02.53-3.fc14 updates-testing 121 k
device-mapper-event i686 1.02.53-3.fc14 updates-testing 81 k
device-mapper-event-libs i686 1.02.53-3.fc14 updates-testing 76 k
device-mapper-libs i686 1.02.53-3.fc14 updates-testing 128 k
freetype i686 2.4.2-2.fc14 updates-testing 349 k
glib2 i686 2.25.13-1.fc14 updates-testing 1.5 M
glib2-devel i686 2.25.13-1.fc14 updates-testing 1.5 M
gnome-color-manager i686 2.31.6-2.fc14 updates-testing 1.1 M
gnome-desktop i686 2.31.6-1.fc14 updates-testing 1.0 M
gnome-icon-theme noarch 2.31.0-1.fc14 updates-testing 8.1 M
gnome-packagekit i686 2.31.6-2.fc14 updates-testing 2.8 M
gnome-power-manager i686 2.31.6-3.fc14 updates-testing 2.9 M
gnome-session i686 2.31.6-1.fc14 updates-testing 422 k
gnome-session-xsession i686 2.31.6-1.fc14 updates-testing 29 k
gnome-utils i686 1:2.31.1-2.fc14 updates-testing 5.0 M
gnome-utils-libs i686 1:2.31.1-2.fc14 updates-testing 73 k
grub i686 1:0.97-66.fc14 updates-testing 921 k
gthumb i686 2.11.6-1.fc14 updates-testing 2.8 M
gtk-vnc i686 0.4.1-5.fc14 updates-testing 83 k
gvnc i686 0.4.1-5.fc14 updates-testing 60 k
kernel-headers i686 2.6.35-3.fc14 updates-testing 719 k
libgudev1 i686 160-9.fc14 updates-testing 58 k
libpeas i686 0.5.4-1.fc14 updates-testing 61 k
libudev i686 160-9.fc14 updates-testing 73 k
libudev-devel i686 160-9.fc14 updates-testing 65 k
libwnck i686 2.30.3-1.fc14 updates-testing 346 k
linux-firmware noarch 20100806-2.fc14 updates-testing 4.7 M
lvm2 i686 2.02.72-3.fc14 updates-testing 521 k
lvm2-libs i686 2.02.72-3.fc14 updates-testing 569 k
mdadm i686 3.1.3-0.git20100804.2.fc14 updates-testing 272 k
nautilus i686 2.31.5-3.really.2.30.1.fc14 updates-testing 3.5 M
nautilus-extensions i686 2.31.5-3.really.2.30.1.fc14 updates-testing 53 k
newt i686 0.52.12-1.fc14 updates-testing 97 k
newt-python i686 0.52.12-1.fc14 updates-testing 49 k
openoffice.org-base i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 151 k
...
openoffice.org-core i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 80 M
openoffice.org-draw i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 153 k
openoffice.org-draw-core i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 782 k
openoffice.org-graphicfilter i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 327 k
openoffice.org-math i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 148 k
openoffice.org-math-core i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 1.2 M
openoffice.org-opensymbol-fonts noarch 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 240 k
openoffice.org-pdfimport i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 497 k
openoffice.org-ure i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 2.6 M
openoffice.org-writer i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 156 k
openoffice.org-writer-core i686 1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14 updates-testing 5.1 M
perf i686 2.6.35-3.fc14 updates-testing 246 k
policycoreutils i686 2.0.83-13.fc14 updates-testing 668 k
policycoreutils-gui i686 2.0.83-13.fc14 updates-testing 203 k
policycoreutils-python i686 2.0.83-13.fc14 updates-testing 331 k
python-bugzilla noarch 0.6.1-3.fc14 fedora 74 k
python-ethtool i686 0.5-1.fc14 updates-testing 26 k
python-telepathy noarch 0.15.18-1.fc14 updates-testing 224 k
selinux-policy noarch 3.8.8-10.fc14 fedora 712 k
selinux-policy-targeted noarch 3.8.8-10.fc14 fedora 2.2 M
setools-console i686 3.3.7-6.fc14 updates-testing 327 k
setools-libs i686 3.3.7-6.fc14 updates-testing 403 k
setools-libs-python i686 3.3.7-6.fc14 updates-testing 209 k
system-config-date noarch 1.9.60-1.fc14 updates-testing 868 k
system-config-language noarch 1.3.4-6.fc14 updates-testing 144 k
systemd i686 6-2.fc14 updates-testing 365 k
systemd-gtk i686 6-2.fc14 updates-testing 53 k



That is good of course, but does it mean that we should not rely on "F-14 Branched report" any more?

[nimnull22]

The rest of updates:

systemd-units i686 6-2.fc14 updates-testing 101 k
telepathy-haze i686 0.4.0-1.fc14 updates-testing 74 k
transmission-common i686 2.04-1.fc14 updates-testing 393 k
transmission-gtk i686 2.04-1.fc14 updates-testing 644 k
udev i686 160-9.fc14 updates-testing 341 k
zenity i686 2.31.6-1.fc14 updates-testing 2.7 M
Removing:
kernel-PAE i686 2.6.35-0.55.rc6.git0.fc14 @rawhide 79 M
Installing for dependencies:
clutter-gesture i686 0.0.2-2.fc13 fedora 22 k
clutter-gst i686 1.0.0-1.fc14 fedora 34 k
clutter-imcontext i686 0.1.6-3.fc14 fedora 28 k
libmx i686 1.0.3-1.fc14 fedora 476 k
Skipped (dependency problems):
control-center i686 1:2.31.6-1.fc14 updates-testing 1.6 M
control-center-filesystem i686 1:2.31.6-1.fc14 updates-testing 49 k

Transaction Summary
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Install 5 Package(s)
Upgrade 77 Package(s)
Remove 1 Package(s)


So, what do you think, what the "F-14 Branched report" made for?
Rawhide report always contained the actual update.

P.S.
May be "updates-testing" doesn't belong to "development ?

---------- Post added at 12:05 PM CDT ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 AM CDT ----------

And the first result of this update is:
loss of full hinting on Verdana fonts
Installed Packages
freetype.i686 2.4.2-2.fc14 @updates-testing

Not good.

But firefox and skype starts without any additional help. Thanks to new selinux policy.

[RahulSundaram]

Hi,

Your confusion seems to be that you are expecting the Branch report to include packages from updates-testing while that is not the case. The branch report only includes changes in the base repo while updates-testing is enabled by default till close to the general release. If you want the full list, you have to read the updates-testing repo for Fedora 14 as well. Example:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-August/092346.html

Details are covered at

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Branched

[nimnull22]

Thanks, I will read it.

[GoinEasy9]

@nimnull22
I use a local mirror to search for what packages are in updates-testing here:
http://mirror.us.as6453.net/fedora/linux//updates/testing/14/
I see it's referred to on one of the pages Rahul gave you, but not directly linked.

[OainjaQakanj]

Also here. List of updates is longer than pay bill. Without T1 you will be in trouble. .

[GoinEasy9]

I saw them coming in to the list last night ... hoping they fix a lot of problems.

[OainjaQakanj]

Indeed they fix slow respond and cause Gnome-Panel blinking. If some has too much time, there is open thread for help. Cheers.