Gnome-shell-2.31.2-2 in F14

[SlowJet]

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Starting in a terminal
# gnome-shell --replace

Running
click Activities, click Applications, ...

Stopping
# C^ (Ctrl-C

Pretty cool - the full effect shows now
Intel 865 Pent IV

SJ

[tox]

i cannot get used to the feel of this new gnome-shell plus i find it lacks customization like gnome 2 series . unless im missing somehting i have no idea how to Add stuff to the taskbar

[kyryder]

+1 the new shell is pretty cool :cool: The only issue I have had is when leaving the shell back to gnome I lose my tool bars. Still pretty cool

Ky

[tox]

looks the same to me, all i do know is that it has a New Theme? im just going off from what i read on Phoronix site about it. i still think KDE looks more an more better everytime i see this new Gnome http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODI4Nw http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2010-May/msg00072.html

[ghostdawg]

+1 the new shell is pretty cool :cool: The only issue I have had is when leaving the shell back to gnome I lose my tool bars. Still pretty cool
Ky
I tried it a few months ago and had that issue also. But I do like the new gnome. It should get better as time go on and the bugs worked out.

[tox]

I tried it a few months ago and had that issue also. But I do like the new gnome. It should get better as time go on and the bugs worked out.

it will get better probably around 3.8 or 3.10 which Gnome2 around there started to get better

[hantsy]

The gnome shell is a bad idea product, I would like the Menu provided in SuSE enterprise desktop linux and Mint Main menu.

[GoinEasy9]

I'm able to access gnome-shell through desktop effects. This version is definitely more stable, although I can't get rid of the transparencies. I don't know if I'm missing something, or it's because I'm running it with the nouveau/mesa experimental drivers. I'll have to play with it a bit more, and also try it though the terminal to see if that makes any difference.

Only problem I saw so far is that it decreases my default workspaces to one, and that doesn't come back when I turn it off. That no big deal, let's see how everything else works before I start criticizing.

Edit: Well, I opened it up in terminal, then opened Chrome, and everything froze but the mouse pointer. But, after cold boot, opening through Desktop Effects, I now have the transparencies of the apps back to normal. Hey, the blow up fixed something, Heh. It seems they have a lot of work to do. I'm also going to have to find some more documentation, there has to be some way of customizing/personalizing the desktop activities, even in this early release.

[GoinEasy9]

Todays updates crash Gnome-shell:

Updates 05-30-10
May 30 16:25:34 Updated: gnome-panel-libs-2.31.2-2.fc14.i686
May 30 16:25:37 Updated: mesa-dri-drivers-7.9-0.1.fc14.i686
May 30 16:25:42 Updated: ibus-pinyin-db-open-phrase-1.3.8-1.fc14.noarch
May 30 16:25:45 Updated: mesa-libGL-7.9-0.1.fc14.i686
May 30 16:25:47 Updated: mesa-libGLU-7.9-0.1.fc14.i686
May 30 16:25:48 Updated: glew-1.5.4-1.fc14.i686
May 30 16:25:49 Updated: glx-utils-7.9-0.1.fc14.i686
May 30 16:25:50 Updated: ibus-pinyin-1.3.8-1.fc14.i686
May 30 16:25:59 Updated: gnome-panel-2.31.2-2.fc14.i686
May 30 16:26:00 Updated: mesa-dri-drivers-experimental-7.9-0.1.fc14.i686

BZ filed:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597875

[dd_wizard]

I think it's the experimental driver, GE9. Check my post in the other thread.

dd_wizard

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Cool, AWN works in Gnome-shell! So now I have all the applets I need. :D

dd_wizard

[GoinEasy9]

You get 3D effects without the experimental drivers??? This I've got to check out. BBL

Edit: Didn't work for me. Erasing experimental drivers just get me a notification that 3D is not available. Is there something that I'm missing?

[dd_wizard]

An Intel 945GM chipset? :p It's always run compiz with the regular drivers. But then again, it sure isn't much of a 3D screamer either.

dd_wizard

[tox]

You get 3D effects without the experimental drivers??? This I've got to check out. BBL

Edit: Didn't work for me. Erasing experimental drivers just get me a notification that 3D is not available. Is there something that I'm missing?

always check to see what videocard the other person is using before you jump to conclusions

[GoinEasy9]

Ahhh.... very interesting. BTW - Jumping to conclusions wasn't exactly what I was doing. Jumping to confusion is more like it. :D

[tox]

Ahhh.... very interesting. BTW - Jumping to conclusions wasn't exactly what I was doing. Jumping to confusion is more like it. :D

its plain obvious a 3D driver has to be installed for Gnome-shell to work, i cant see how you came to the conclusion that it would of worked without a 3D driver installed

[GoinEasy9]

i cant see how you came to the conclusion that it would of worked without a 3D driver installed

You might try erasing mesa-dri-drivers-experimental-7.9-0.1.fc14.i686, GE9. Compiz works fine here with the non-experimental drivers after the update.

The End....

[tox]

The End....

i'll give that a go once i play with the LiveCD again

[kyryder]

I have been playing some with Gnome-shell. I have a I915 video card and the shell looks pretty snazzy with this older card. When I use the desktop-display instead of "gnome-shell --replace" the transition works better giving me my toolbars back but only one desktop. sftp with rhythmbox seems sketchy loosing the mount randomly.

Over all I think the shell is cool :cool: it might be a little buggy but, hey, this is rawhide.

Ky

[Finalzone]

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Starting in a terminal
# gnome-shell --replace

Running
click Activities, click Applications, ...

Stopping
# C^ (Ctrl-C

Pretty cool - the full effect shows now
Intel 865 Pent IV

SJ

Nearly identical with the version found on Fedora 13 which I now daily use.

[GoinEasy9]

Nearly identical with the version found on Fedora 13 which I now daily use.

Yes, it's still working on F13 (version 2.29), but, the update to gnome-shell yesterday (to version 2.31) in rawhide made it a bit more stable. The transparency problems I had (all apps were transparent) seemed to be fixed. For the first time I was able to use it as a desktop without something freezing. I guess I'm going to have to put up an install and taint it with the Nvidia blobs in order to see its full potential. I was excited when I saw the mesa experimental updates today, after the gnome-shell update yesterday, I was looking forward to using it more regularly. Oh well, I never expected Rawhide to be without problems.

[dd_wizard]

kyryder, if you click on the Activities button, and then look below the lower right of the desktop background, do you see a + button? If you do, click it to get a second desktop. Playing around with AWN in intelihide mode has made things more useful. See the attached screen shot.

dd_wizard

[kyryder]

kyryder, if you click on the Activities button, and then look below the lower right of the desktop background, do you see a + button? If you do, click it to get a second desktop. Playing around with AWN in intelihide mode has made things more useful. See the attached screen shot.

dd_wizard

Thank you dd_wizard,

Nice screen shot, Looks snazzy . I found the button and it works great :) thanks, I still lose a desktop (from 2 to 1) when I leave the shell and go back to standard, but it's not that big a deal to me. I can live with it ;)

Thanks,

Ky

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PS. Yours look better that mine:
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=677

[GoinEasy9]

I'm jealous. I'm setting up the lappy with the Intel i915 graphics with rawhide so I can play too.

[kyryder]

I'm jealous. I'm setting up the lappy with the Intel i915 graphics with rawhide so I can play too.

Jump on in, the water is warm but look out for the currents they can be swift and carry you away.;)

Ky

[GoinEasy9]

Too many low bridges with nouveau. I want to see what Intel looks like. I'll keep the nouveau install also, somebody has to tell them when their screwing up. :D

[kyryder]

Yeah, I have tried nouveau but it always seems to get in the way of my water wings. ;) Intel adds a little floatation allowing me to bob up and catch a breath every once in a while and not completely drown.

Ky

[scorpio2002]

Hi there,
I have FC14. I tried to install gnome-shell, but when I try to use it it doesn't work... has something been broken recently?!?

I get a desktop without panels, just the icons and the controls in the windows don't work :(