Ipod sucks!

[Hunkah]

How in the world could someone have patience enough to set one of these suckers up and running!

I have tried forum after forum and I would now rather slit my wrists then look anymore!

Does anyone have a friggin clue how to do it?

My set up in f12
Ipod Nano v4 purple (little video screen on it).

I have used every music player, every setting I could think of.

I have read a million forums.

I can upload files ipod can see the wasted drive space, but it registers nothing as a song.

Please help me, or shoot me... I don't care anymore.

[kurtdriver]

"Ipod sucks!"

I wouldn't know, I have differing hardware. When I plug mine into the USB port a nautilus window pops up with all the stuff that's on the sdcard. I can play those files with Banshee, Mplayer or mpg123.
What have you tried to do?

[Dan]

Please help me, or shoot me... I don't care anymore. Tempting ... but I'll hold off for a while. <..:p..>

[Gödel]

4th generation ipod nanos work with rythmbox and amarok (definitely did work with version 1.4 of amarok), although some people have reported the need to copy a firewireguid to the device first:

After dragging & dropping files you should cleanly umount the ipod (eg right-click the desktop icon)

These reports are from Fedora 10 I think, so I assume things still work (ie I assume it wouldn't have been broken since then)

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1152886&postcount=14
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=215106

[Hunkah]

Well I have tried rythembox, amarok, gtkpod, banshee, atunes, mplayer, file browsers, walkthroughs, downloads uploads, command line commands... nothing will make this ipod recognize the files as songs. It can see that there is used space, but shows nothing in the song list.

[Simian Man]

Is your Ipod formatted with a FAT filesystem of HFS? Because newly bought iPods come with Apple's HFS filesystem that isn't supported on Linux. You must first setup the iPod in iTunes (yuck) before using it on Linux so it can be formatted as FAT32 for Windows and Linux.

If that's not it, I'm stumped because I has a 4G Nano that worked fine under all players with Fedora.

[Hunkah]

That might be the issue. I never used iTunes on it yet because I only have Linux installed. I will try to use a vBox version of Winders first then if not I will have to install it on an old garbage PC. Blech, I told myself NEVER AGAIN... friggin iPods! Apple, making me install windows... just doesn't make sense to me.

[Simian Man]

That might be the issue. I never used iTunes on it yet because I only have Linux installed. I will try to use a vBox version of Winders first then if not I will have to install it on an old garbage PC. Blech, I told myself NEVER AGAIN... friggin iPods! Apple, making me install windows... just doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah I'm almost certain that that's the issue then. Do you not have a friend or relative with a Windows machine?

[Hunkah]

Ha, I used to, but I convinced them all to use Fedora! They all LOVE it!

:)

[Hunkah]

OK so I used a windows computer... it took 5 hours for Windows to install iTunes!!! I had to get the sp2 updates for windows, download and install Quicktime, then download and install iTunes! Ugh, ask me why I hate using windows and give me 5 hours of your time to complain.

FINALLY! I have a name for issue I am having. This iPod is an iPod nano 5th Generation. GTKpod only supports 4th Gen and everything else complains about the format of the vfat drive.

I did a search and found this link, which perfectly describes this issue:
http://www.watkissonline.co.uk/wordpress/?p=2707

I will keep updating the more I find out.

[NatLWalker]

iTunes is bloated. It has like half of MacOS in the package. iTunes for Windows is horrible.

As far as the Service Pack, I'm surprised someone would even write on a forum that they just installed a Service Pack, and only cause they wanted to reformat their iPod SD card...

Also, iTunes and QuickTime (and the other 200MB worth or crap Apple makes you install) != Windows.

If you were using a Zune/Zune HD or a Windows Mobile Phone as opposed to an iPod, iPod Touch, or iPhone... It would have taken much < 1 hour to get all of that set up (speaking from experience).

Using iPods from MacOSX isn't as painful.

But this (bold) is expected.

[Hunkah]

Trust me, I would never use a zune or an ipod myself, I have a sanDisk brand and love it. No issues ever... nothing wrong with it... still works great after 3 years.

The ipod is a friend's and it was a gift to her from her sister-in-law. I am only helping her set it up because she was one of the friends that switched over to Fedora at my suggestion. She still loves fedora, just a little upset that she couldn't install iTunes to use her new toy.

blah.

[stevea]

FINALLY! I have a name for issue I am having. This iPod is an iPod nano 5th Generation. GTKpod only supports 4th Gen and everything else complains about the format of the vfat drive.
...
I will keep updating the more I find out.

That info is out of date. Here is part of the the "News" file for libgpod 7.9


1 Overview of changes in libgpod 0.7.90
2 =====================================
3
4 This release is API and ABI compatible with libgpod 0.7.2. It's a development
5 release toward libgpod 0.8.0. Please report any bug or misbehaviour you may
6 find with this release, especially with the iPhoneOS/iPod Nano 5g support.
7
8 * iPhoneOS 3.x support (iPhone and iPod Touch)
[...]
15
16 * iPod Nano 5G support
17
18 The device database needs to be initialized by iTunes once.
19 libgpod HAL callout needs to be installed and working for this support to work,
20 see README.overview for more details. Please note that for propre nano5g
21 support, the HAL callout must be compiled with libusb support (which is
22 optional). This requires libusb >= 1.0 to be installed.
23


Perhaps all you need to do is replace the F12 0.7.2 with the 0.7.9 libraries.

You *might* be able to snarf this from some of the Fedora Koji repo, but building it from source shouldn't be hard either.