Important change in Fedora development

[RahulSundaram]

For a long time now the development branch of Fedora called Rawhide has been frozen in particular milestones like Alpha or Beta leading up to the next general release and while there has been an opportunity to build for the next release via early branching the model going forward is different

Details at http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-February/000561.html

There are now two development branches

The goal is to convert rawhide into a permanent development branch and the development branch for the next release would continue in parallel freeing developers to push breaking changes into Rawhide leaving the development branch for the next release to stabilize more

Summarize: Rawhide is likely to even more faster development and more users would be able to participate in development early on because of increasing stability for development of next release

[CiaW]

Thanks Rahul,

If I'm currently using the rawhide repo and want to stick with F13 for now; will it automatically fix the repos and I have to re-enable rawhide down the road? Or is rawhide enabled now and if I want it to stay at F13 I have to disable it? At what point do I have to disable it? If that's answered elsewhere I apologize, I haven't seen it.

[RahulSundaram]

Hi

My understanding is that the transition is automatic to the 13 branch via a fedora-release update and I will post more details when further announcements are made

[Jake]

Cool, though I might end up needing to dual boot 3 OS's now (Where it's currently F12, Rawhide) it may have to go "Fedora 12, Fedora Next, Fedora Rawhide" hmm :|.

I might just stick to how it is now though I'll think of something :-)

[Igby]

There are now two development branches

The goal is to convert rawhide into a permanent development branch and the development branch for the next release would continue in parallel freeing developers to push breaking changes into Rawhide leaving the development branch for the next release to stabilize more
So, it's a bit like debian? 3 different branches like stable, testing & sid?

[Demz]

So, it's a bit like debian? 3 different branches like stable, testing & sid?

something like that but rawhide wont Freeze, it'll go over to F14 once F13 Alpha is out i would assume

[RahulSundaram]

Hi

More details at

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-February/131000.html

[leigh123linux]

:cool: I have F13 CVS branches now :cool:

[Demz]

correct me if im wrong, but its like Mozilla, Trunk and Branch

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:cool: I have F13 CVS branches now :cool:

i thought you were bored with F13

[leigh123linux]

correct me if im wrong, but its like Mozilla, Trunk and Branch

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i thought you were bored with F13

I am, it means the devel branch now builds F14 :p

http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/qbittorrent/

[Demz]

yeah i saw on koji a fedora-release 14 rpm already made

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so leigh, what will you do with the Forum?.. change F13 rawhide into F13 Branch an make a seperate F14 sub-forum?

[CiaW]

Last night I went to update and there were no updates available. This morning there are a bunch of updates, and some of them are fc14 -- argh! So I updated the kernel only, rebooted and went to yumex to select all and then selectively uncheck the fc14 updates.

But 2 of them want to come in as dependencies !?
xorg-x11-server-Xorg *.fc14 and xorg-x11-server-common

So I canceled and now I'll unselect anything that's related to xorg and hope it works ok... I see one of the updates is fedora-release which I guess will disable the rawhide repo now.

It's an adventure. If leaving off the xorg updates breaks anything, I'll be back to update.

[carlainz]

hi all i'm in this situation :

[root@fedora13 yum.repos.d]# cat /etc/redhat-release
Fedora release 14 (Rawhide)

[root@fedora13 yum.repos.d]# rpm -qa | grep fc14
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.99.901-4.20100215.fc14.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-common-1.7.99.901-4.20100215.fc14.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-fpit-1.3.0-8.fc14.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-wacom-0.10.4-3.fc14.x86_64
man-1.6f-27.fc14.x86_64


please help me to come back to fedora13 and switch repository
.

thanks

[bob]

New sub-Forum created.

Guys, I've forked the development Forums into Rawhide and F13 Development. F13 topics will continue there and this sub-Forum will remain open even for the discussions of future versions. The F13 Development sub-Forum will eventually be archived.

In the future, this sub-Forum will be dedicated to bleeding-edge development topics, not specific releases.

As info, I made this split based on how my feeble mind comprehends the massive shifts within Fedora Development and I may have misunderstood things a bit. If so, I can easily change and correct what's wrong, so PM me or post if things need modification.

Edit: Yup! Misunderstood and had to correct this post and the sub-Forum already. (as expected, right? :D)

[dd_wizard]

@carlainz:

I did the same thing, clicked yes without reading the list of packages closely. :rolleyes: Just install the two RPMs at the link for F13 in post 3 of this thread (http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=240816). Then use yum to downgrade the 4 xorg and one man package. That worked for me, quite easily.

dd_wizard