I'm going in - F13 yum upgrade

[SlowJet]

Updating Pent II sever from F12-1/2 to F13 rawhide.
yum is on 100 of 706

SJ

[DustinCasler]

Nice. Post how usable it is. Also by 12 1/2 i'm guessing you mean testing? I would like to try out either the testing or rawhide. But i'm concerned with basic functionality being destroyed.

[smr54]

So far, I'm finding it rather usable. No major issues--I haven't been using it very much though, and rather than updating a server running F12 (I think SlowJet is more courageous than I am), I simply put a skeleton F12 install in, enabled rawhide in the repo and updated.

[DustinCasler]

So far, I'm finding it rather usable. No major issues--I haven't been using it very much though, and rather than updating a server running F12 (I think SlowJet is more courageous than I am), I simply put a skeleton F12 install in, enabled rawhide in the repo and updated.

Thanks. I may try that out too. I guess I can always do a fresh install if things get bad. I use Fedora several hours a day though. I just have the one machine and the only OS I have on it at the moment is F12 KDE. I do a lot of internet browsing and also heavy media usage. Also I am pretty reliant on flash. From your experience do you think that using rawhide would affect those things?

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Also if I do the change to rawhide, which repos should I have enabled. I checked it out to see what i'd be getting and it was wanting to pull up about 1400 updates. So I refreshed it to see if it was a mistake and it brought up just over 2000 updates. There appeared to be several duplicates of most if not all packages....

[smr54]

I prefer smaller window managers, and am using fluxbox. Flash is fine. Browsing is fine. There may actually be some improvement in my wireless, though I haven't had a chance to test that. (However, around 2.6.29 or 2.6.30, the kernel people broke some atheros drivers, that may be fixed by 2.6.32.)

I don't know about KDE, I'm sorry.

[DustinCasler]

Well, for now i'm going to try to just upgrade KDE to 4.3.90. I just tried it on my install and broke my machine. Now i'm running the updates from a fresh install of F12 KDE. I think what I did wrong last time was forgetting to x the current KDE packages at 4.3.4

[glennzo]

I play with Rawhide from time to time on a spare machine. It's frequently broken in one way or another but this is to be expected. I wouldn't recommend it on a machine that is your "daily driver". Otherwise, go for it, but but expect problems. That's what it's there for.

Here's how to enable rawhide, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide

[DustinCasler]

Ok. This time I did the changes as an update rather than addition. I'm not sure what possessed me to do it the other way before. Everything appears on the up and up so far. Now i'm running easy life. Then i'll do the xorg and pulseaudio fixes and see if i'll have this machine running how I want it.

[leigh123linux]

I play with Rawhide from time to time on a spare machine. It's frequently broken in one way or another but this is to be expected. I wouldn't recommend it on a machine that is your "daily driver". Otherwise, go for it, but but expect problems. That's what it's there for.

Here's how to enable rawhide, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide


Some people have all the luck :cool: , rawhide runs stable here (boring :(:(:()

[glennzo]

I've had some pretty good luck with Rawhide to, for the most part, but you'd have to admit that it can be a pretty bumpy ride at times.

I really wish that there were some NVidia drivers for it. Nouveau is worse than vesa, IMHO.

[leigh123linux]

I've had some pretty good luck with Rawhide to, for the most part, but you'd have to admit that it can be a pretty bumpy ride at times.

I really wish that there were some NVidia drivers for it. Nouveau is worse than vesa, IMHO.


Build your own ;)

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=237118&highlight=nvidia

[DustinCasler]

Things appear to be going well so far. Had some minor issues with dependencies here and there. But it was nothing I couldn't figure out and go back into rawhide and get. I'm liking KDE 4.4(3.90) quite a bit s far. The one thing I can't figure out though is how to change my display setting to larger than 1800 x 1400. I never tried with 4.3.4 so maybe that won't let you either...

[glennzo]

Build your own ;)

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=237118&highlight=nvidia
I need the 173xx drivers. FX5500 card.

[DustinCasler]

Well, I spoke too soon. Now the KDE workspace is crashing every time I try to open up a browser or an avi file. So It appears i'm about to do another fresh install of F12 KDE and maybe stay out of rawhide and testing for now. ha. I wonder though if it would make a difference if I upgraded the whole system to rawhide. Maybe i'll try that first....

[CiaW]

I'm not jumping into F13 until some indefinite time during alpha or beta -- but I thought I'd peek at this thread.

If I may I'd like to suggest that if you don't yet have a bugzilla (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/) account you might want to strongly consider signing up for one. That way, when you run across a bug you can file a bug report to make the landscape a little safer for those of us who come later. In fact, it's your duty (I think, I'm pretty sure...) :D

Plus the abrt should make reporting a bit easier most of the time but it'll want your redhat login info (all you need is an email address and password -- since it's public you'll want to keep that in mind when giving the email address to use...)

Have fun!

[DustinCasler]

Well, i've jumped back out. ha. But I did send in the bug reports that came up. I didn't get a bugzilla account though. forgot about that. sorry. I will make sure to remember for the next time I use rawhide or the alpha/beta.

[hephasteus]

I've had some pretty good luck with Rawhide to, for the most part, but you'd have to admit that it can be a pretty bumpy ride at times.

I really wish that there were some NVidia drivers for it. Nouveau is worse than vesa, IMHO.

I must say I'm really enjoying nouveau. No I don't have 3d but all the really nice things I want 3d for won't work without them charging down the path. I'd really love a Windows VM with full 1024x768 support at 32 bit color. Or some really nice Wine.Noveau cooks a mean 2d. I mean it's blistering fast. If the 3d implimentation is this good it's going to be jaw dropping.

[leigh123linux]

I need the 173xx drivers. FX5500 card.


Well the nvidia libs are built

http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/development/i386/os/repoview/index.html


as for the kmod, build your own :)


yumdownloader --source kmod-nvidia-173xx
rpmbuild --rebuild nvidia-173xx-kmod-173.14.22-1.fc13.1.src.rpm --define "kernels $(uname -r)" --target $(uname -m)