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RaiCoss

19th November 2009, 08:16 PM

So I decided to give Fedora 12 another try now that it has been officially released. In the past KMS has been my main reason not to use Fedora. It has always caused a really weird bug that made the screen swirl like a ghostly white when KMS should have kicked in (this happens in openSUSE too for w/e reason), but now it works, kind of. KMS doesn't actually kick in but it doesn't show the weird ghosting thingy anymore and actually gets to the desktop without me having to disable KMS. Awesome.
This is when I notice the other things better than I maybe did before. The speed of GNOME is REALLY quick compared to Ubuntu even running off a LiveUSB. I don't know how they/you managed that but it's great. However this is about where the good stuff ended. For whatever reason Fedora can't/won't connect to WIFI, even though really old versions of Ubuntu can. It sees the network thing, it takes the key, but it just won't connect! Go figure. Plugging in a webcam and opening Cheese makes the screen flicker badly, maybe that's a KMS thing I dunno. The wallpapers are pretty generic. The default wallpaper is nice but compared to the beautiful selection that were available in some of the Alphas/Betas it's disappointing. The weird thing with the icons stopping halfway down a menu is just dumb and looks very amatuerish, Ubuntu does the same thing and I just don't get it. The default theme is also pretty ugly too, I know I can change it but it doesn't make a good first impression. Also, why is there no OpenOffice? Was it a space issue?

Ooooooooooook anyway before my lappy battery dies those are just my thoughts. I would really like to switch to Fedora at some point, but I guess it will take a little longer than I guessed =3

Peace.

RahulSundaram

19th November 2009, 08:31 PM

Hi,

What is your wireless card chipset? yum install constantine-backgrounds-extras for Alpha/Beta wallpapers. OO.o is indeed left out due to lack of space in the Live CD. Still in the repo.

leigh123linux

19th November 2009, 08:49 PM

So I decided to give Fedora 12 another try now that it has been offically released. In the past KMS has been my main reason not to use Fedora. It has always caused a really weird bug that caused the screen to swirl like a ghostly white when KMS should have kicked in (this happens in openSUSE too for w/e reason), but now it kind of works, kind of. KMS doesn't actually kick in but it doesn't show the weird ghosting thingy and actually gets to the desktop without me having to disable KMS. Awesome.
This is when I notice the oher things better than I did before maybe. The speed of GNOME is REALLY quick compared to Ubuntu even running off a LiveUSB. I dunno how they/you managed that but it's great. However this is about where the good stuff ended. For w/e reason Fedora can't/won't connect to WIFI, even though really old versions of Ubuntu can. It sees the network thing, it takes the key, but it just won't connect! Go figure. Plugging in a webcam and opening Cheese makes the screen flicker badly. Maybe that's a KMS thing I dunno. The wallpapers are pretty generic. The default wallpaper is nice but compared to the beautiful selection that was available in some of the Alphas/Betas it's disappointing. The weird thing with the menu icons stopping halfway down a menu is just dumb and looks very amatuerish, Ubuntu does the same thing and I just don't get it. The default theme is also pretty ugly too, I know I can change it but it doesn't make a good first impression. Also, why is there no OpenOffice? Was it a space issue?

Ooooooooooook anyway before my lappy battery dies those are just my thoughts. I would really like to switch to Fedora at some point, but I guess it will take a little longer than I guessed =3

Peace.

My Atheros card refuses to connect if I use DHCP, it works fine if I use a static IP.

01:07.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0013] (rev 01)

RaiCoss

19th November 2009, 09:06 PM

Hi,

What is your wireless card chipset? yum install constantine-backgrounds-extras for Alpha/Beta wallpapers. OO.o is indeed left out due to lack of space in the Live CD. Still in the repo.

Ok thanks.

My Atheros card refuses to connect if I use DHCP, it works fine if I use a static IP.

01:07.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0013] (rev 01)

Mine is Atheros too! Atheros AR5700EG :(

RahulSundaram

19th November 2009, 09:51 PM

Hi,

I heard the 2.6.32 kernel works better for Atheros. You can get it from

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=141925

It is for the next release but should work in Fedora 12 as well.

GoinEasy9

23rd November 2009, 01:20 AM

The dual-wide versions of the alpha Constantine wallpapers don't come in when installing constantine-backgrounds-extras. It would also be nice to find the .xml file that allowed them to be used as a slide show. Can anyone point me to where to find them. I've been through Art @ Fedora, are there any archives anywhere?

scottro

23rd November 2009, 02:01 AM

One note on Rahul's comment. *I've* found it works better, quite well for me with the AR928x. However, others aren't having the same result.

So, while I think it *will* definitely help, it may not cure the problem.

However. there are also the compat-wireless folks, over at

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download

They usually seem to have the best drivers.

Still, I would echo Rahul in saying that I would first give the 2.6.32 kernel a try.

Shucks, just to confuse the issue, someone else has been having trouble since 2.6.29, but most of us began having issues after 2.6.30. I see you have a G card, so I'll just mention this in passing for others who come across the thread, that Adam found he fixed all his problems by just having his *router* run in G, rather than N mode.

diamond_ramsey

23rd November 2009, 10:12 PM

:) RaiCoss, thank you for your posts. :)

+1 for the Forum members' input to you on the new kernel 2.6.32-0.51.rc7.git2.fc13. :)

With that kernel, I have applied the corresponding kernel-firmware with one of my 32-bit systems, too. :)

FYI, my 32-bit kernel-firmware came from here -

http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/fedora/devel/i386/kernel-firmware-2.6.32-0.51.rc7.git2.fc13.noarch.html

I think that the 64-bit kernel-firmware is here -

http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/fedora/devel/x86_64/kernel-firmware-2.6.32-0.51.rc7.git2.fc13.noarch.html

RaiCoss, please update us on how things go for you with the new kernel. :p

Hope this helps. ;)

RaiCoss

30th November 2009, 06:29 AM