Gnome and KDE open at the same time & missing icons?

[garymayor]

Hi,
I seem to have Gnome and KDE open at the same time. I would like just KDE it done it the other day when I loaded KDE i had the kde panel at the bottom and the gnome panel at the top. Today I loaded KDE and the KDE panel came up at the bottom then the Gnome panel appeared over it. I couldn't get to the kde panel to do anything i found the only way was to right click on the gnome panel goto properties then set it to autohide. So now I can see the KDE panel but when i put the mouse pointer at the very bottom the Gnome panel appears.

Not only that but the icons in the system tray are all missing apart from the volume control. I can see the speaker but not Network Manager or Klipper icons but if i move the mouse pointer over them i can see the text appear above them telling me what they are. I'm sure i've seen the problem before sometime and I had to run some code that made them appear again. I'm using Fedora 12 Beta and with or without desktop-effects on they are not showing. I'm also using a Radeon 9800 Pro graphics card although i'm not sure if that's got anything to do with it.

Has anyone else seen this before?

Thanks in advance.

[ovadyah]

I have not seen that problem, however I have had the problem with yumex and the kernel install.
I added KDE to my install and am also seeing some other problems that may or may not be related. Keep an eye out on this forum for more. I have one thread called "Alpha worked, Beta now does not" with my efforts.
good luck.

[Jongi]

when you load kde, can you print the output of ps aux | grep gnome

[ovadyah]

Here is mine, it is working with no problems switching from K to G

[root@ovadyah ~]# ps aux | grep gnome
root 1335 0.0 0.0 123412 2804 ? S 12:28 0:00 /usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gnome/DisplayManager/Display1 --force-active-vt
ovadyah 1442 0.0 0.0 64352 2400 ? Sl 12:29 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
ovadyah 1667 0.0 0.1 190700 4252 ? S 12:29 0:00 /usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
root 2115 0.0 0.0 89084 772 pts/1 R+ 12:32 0:00 grep gnome

[Jongi]

on my kde install, I only have /usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.

can i assume you didn't install from a kde livecd?

[ovadyah]

I installed from the "standard" dvd

[Jongi]

What is the output of ps aux | grep kdm and ps aux | grep gdm?

[ovadyah]

[root@ovadyah ~]# ps aux | grep kdm
root 258 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 12:27 0:00 [kdmflush]
root 260 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 12:27 0:00 [kdmflush]
root 2233 0.0 0.0 89084 768 pts/1 R+ 12:55 0:00 grep kdm

[root@ovadyah ~]# ps aux | grep gdm
root 1304 0.0 0.0 109380 2044 ? Ss 12:28 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm-binary -nodaemon
root 1335 0.0 0.0 123412 2804 ? S 12:28 0:00 /usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gnome/DisplayManager/Display1 --force-active-vt
root 1336 2.1 1.2 167096 44088 tty1 Rs+ 12:28 0:36 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -nr -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-C475jo/database -nolisten tcp vt1
gdm 1367 0.0 0.0 22016 652 ? S 12:28 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
root 1422 0.0 0.0 165060 3112 ? S 12:28 0:00 pam: gdm-password
root 2235 0.0 0.0 89084 776 pts/1 R+ 12:56 0:00 grep gdm

[Jongi]

This is what mine shows
# ps aux | grep gdm

root 8387 0.0 0.0 89080 856 pts/2 S+ 20:17 0:00 grep --colour=auto gdm

# ps aux | grep kdm

root 922 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:30 0:00 [kdmflush]
root 1937 0.0 0.0 32812 1204 ? Ss 18:30 0:00 /usr/bin/kdm -nodaemon
root 8389 0.0 0.0 89084 936 pts/2 S+ 20:17 0:00 grep --colour=auto kdm

It is for this reason I always install from a live kde. if you start from gnome it becomes extremely entrenched.

the kind of suggestions i have are the kind that are likely to kill the install - starting by perhaps killing the gdm processes to something as drastic as removing gdm.

[ovadyah]

Thanks very much. I appreciate your help and information. I shall try a KDE install, soon.

[garymayor]

Yep here it is,

ps aux | grep gnome
gary 1454 0.0 0.1 17220 2236 ? Sl 20:42 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
gary 1675 0.1 0.7 173892 10928 ? S 20:42 0:00 gnome-panel --sm-config-prefix /gnome-panel-vnxHyJ/ --sm-client-id 1028c1d320b210000125665866300000016350012 --screen 0
gary 1719 0.0 0.2 17496 4012 ? S 20:42 0:00 /usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
gary 1895 2.9 0.9 24908 15016 ? S 20:43 0:10 compiz --ignore-desktop-hints glib gconf gnomecompat --replace
gary 2193 0.0 0.0 4248 708 pts/3 S+ 20:48 0:00 grep gnome

ps aux | grep kdm
root 1314 0.0 0.0 4232 928 ? Ss 20:41 0:00 /usr/bin/kdm -nodaemon
root 1324 14.6 4.7 104404 72724 tty1 Ss+ 20:41 1:13 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt1 -auth /var/run/kdm/A:0-BWBfHc
gary 2232 0.0 0.0 4248 712 pts/3 S+ 20:50 0:00 grep kdm

[Jongi]

gary - i would run kill -9 1675 to kill gnome-panel and kill -9 1895 to kill compiz

[garymayor]

Thats got rid of the gnome panel but I need to keep the compiz because i'm using the actual desktop-effects app because the method used through the control panel settings doesn't work as good as this does. I'm using a Radeon 9800 Pro thats an old card and I had a nightmare trying to get it to run at a decent speed.Even with compiz killed the icons still don't show up. I'm hoping when i log out and log back in the gnome panel will not come back i'll post again if it comes back.