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23rd October 2009, 04:30 PM
Hey guys, i just had a client back out on me on a website. I knew one of the company founders, because she used to be a nurse in the jail, so i didn't ask for money up front. It turns out that the main founder is the one doing the financial backing, and he doesn't want to pay for a website (he doesn't think that it is "beneficial"), so i'm out a few days of research, work, design, development, and the cost of a domain name.
Well, i try to turn a negative into a positive, so i've launched the website as MY OWN now, knowing damned good and well that i am not a healthcare provider, but also knowing that i can use the traffic to turn this work into reward. The thing is, after brainstorming for a night, i'm still not sure what would be the best game plan. I've got ads up for now, but i wanted to see what your opinions were, as to how to use the topic of this website to its best potential.
The website is http://inhomehealthcareagency.com/ . The only ideas that i've thought of so far is to try to turn it into a centralized place for agencies to be found by people who need one, and by people who want a job. That is the only idea i've come up with so far. As you can tell, i have limited imagination. I think that it would be interesting and beneficial to hear other people's opinions on this one, because this is NOT my genre. My main genre is Linux, Information Managers, and Web Services, so i'm in the dark here...
Ha! Also, as you can tell, that is the second time i pulled off a "Clean" design. Usually my stuff is "too dark", ergo, unprofessional. I guess that i have a bit of professionalism in me after all... damnit :D.
Also, to the Mods/Admins:
I hope this is not inappropriate; i figured it was ok in "Whibble". If not, just delete it, no need for explanation.
23rd October 2009, 04:36 PM
Sounds like a reasonable use. I would, however, contact the original customer, ascertain who their immediate competitiion is, and start burning up the phone lines. Admittedly, you'll be cold-calling, and the odds of hitting a sale are low, but you never know until you try.
And ... your original customer can't get too bent out of shape about it. They did, after all, have the right of first refusal.
On a secondary note, put a 15~20% ghosted white background behind your detail text to pop it off the background. It's a bit unreadable now.
23rd October 2009, 04:43 PM
Way ahead of ya there. I actually forgot to mention that i tried to call healthcare agencies to see if they want me to sell them leads (i'm damned good at getting front page, so i should get a lot of traffic, some of which would be leads), and most of them do not know what they hell they are talking about. In my research, and the business meetings i've had with these people, i learned that people have a CHOICE of home healthcare providers, but that it is usually imputed upon them by the doctor/nurse at the hospital, because they don't know they have a say in it. So most of these agencies i called said "Oh, we can't buy leads, because the doctor must assign them to the patient".
Well, the DESIGN itself i created after they backed out, but the research i did during that time. I did a completely different design for them, and i thought that it was horrible, but they INSISTED on it. "Too many cooks in the kitchen"...
What do you mean "detail text"? You mean the main content itself? I still have to actually make content; that stuff was there for SEO, and example content for the moment.
23rd October 2009, 04:55 PM
Home Health Care | In Home Care
The Prestige Home Healthcare Agency has proudly provided In Home Care Services.
Whether you need an Home Healthcare Agency for Skilled Home Nursing Care, Physical Therapy Technicians, Occupational Therapy, Home Health Nurses, Medical Social Workers, Lab Draws, or Home Companion Care, the Prestige Home Healtchcare Agency will be there for you and your family with services that you can rely on, and staff that you can trust.
Call whatever you want to ... just stick something behind it to lift it out of the muck. <..:rolleyes:..>
So sez another cook in the kitchen! <..:p..>
23rd October 2009, 04:59 PM
Oh, i see what you mean. I will play with it while i'm adding content to it. I'm going to spend the rest of the day just adding content and doing more research. I may also get around to developing the scripts and database tables that allow agencies to register for service listings and job postings.
23rd October 2009, 05:16 PM
If you want to cater to professionals, it never hurts to use correct English:Whether you need a Home Healthcare Agency for Skilled Home Nursing Care, ...V
23rd October 2009, 05:31 PM
Oh, it is as i mentioned before, i have to fill out the content, yet. I was using the "search and replace" in gedit to remove certain words, and so i still have to go back through and fill out the content, and then proofread it. But thanks for pointing that out, as i am good for typos! :D
23rd October 2009, 05:34 PM
another one with a spelling mistake
"Thanks to my In Home Healthcare, in can stay Independant"
Independent is spelt like so.
but all in all quite a good website
23rd October 2009, 05:41 PM
HA! I told you i'm good for typos (i go too fast); and i never remember to proofread. The content isn't important until i finish it, but the images are/WERE already finished, so that is something that i need to fix now. Lol, thanks.
Ok, fixed. Thanks Again. Yeah, i literally threw the site together; it was the statistical research, etc, that took me the longest. Well, that and haggling over THEIR design that they wanted (almost ALL RED, not joking!).
23rd October 2009, 08:00 PM
One of my thoughts for the Google "Great Ideas" project was to have anonymous online medical records. A person could pick a nickname like one does on forums and a password. They could enter their medical records online to save them. (Is this "cloud computing" ?) To be a really good system, there would eventually have to be some way to allow health care providers to upload and download info. The patient could login privately to authorize such transfers. The patient's true identity would not be in the online medical records. Health care providers would not know a person's user name and password unless the person chose to reveal it.
23rd October 2009, 08:04 PM
I like the way you think :D. I like building stuff like that! That would have to wait though, as i'm only one person (despite the fact that i make myself out to big a "company" to the public), and i've got way too much on my plate right now.
23rd October 2009, 08:36 PM
You will have to read the HIPPA regulations on holding medical records.
The usual problem is that once you get enough information to be usefull, it also identifies the person by
aggregate data. So even though it is "anonymous" and without the real user name, it still must be
protected as if it did have the real name.
23rd October 2009, 08:39 PM
Oh, good point. That is something that i would have probably found out about the hard way.
24th October 2009, 07:30 PM
I think i know of a way to use this. I think that i can make it a centralized place for people to come for jobs, care, clients, and employees.
1) Old people looking for care can read about what to expect, and what their RIGHTS are, and find an agency in their area.
2) People looking for jobs can find agencies that are hiring.
3) Agencies can potentially get Clients and Employees.
I believe that is how to best utilize this one. Thanx!
24th October 2009, 09:16 PM
Remember too that you can just squat the domain name and sell it back to them sooner or later when they want a website (preferably for the cost of the work you did for them, plus the renewal costs over the waiting time).
24th October 2009, 10:48 PM
Well that's true, but i'd like to take advantage of the volume of traffic i can get. I'm pretty damned good with sEO, and this is a high volume topic, so i think that by offering services for it, it may pay off many times over what i was going to let them have it for.
I always looked at term relevance, etc, before; but recently google changed so that now you can see the VOLUME of searches for a term. My Online Organizer website it front page for almost EVERY relevant term, but it makes no money (1 cents per day --no joke), and i worked my ass of on it. After looking at the numbers for search volumes i learned that there are only 100 quries per month --WORLD WIDE-- for such a site. However the home healthcare related queries are over 10,000 per month. I've got the domain, i've got the site, i want to see if i can make it work for me. Maybe that site will give me a return for all my work. I guess that is the problem with creating free services...
24th October 2009, 10:55 PM
...The thing is, after brainstorming for a night, i'm still not sure what would be the best game plan. I've got ads up for now, but i wanted to see what your opinions were, as to how to use the topic of this website to its best potential.
The website is http://inhomehealthcareagency.com/ . The only ideas that i've thought of so far is to try to turn it into a centralized place for agencies to be found by people who need one, and by people who want a job. That is the only idea i've come up with so far....
:) Vector, thank you for your post. :)
I would go for the job angle...Food for thought -
* As the job recruiter / placement, placing personnel for a specific job may be quite rewarding. Here, our recruiters receive about $1k USD to $5k USD for placing qualified professionals at locations which need people. Think of the job referral concept. Depends if you have time and resources to do so. Consider how to protect yourself from liability if something goes way wrong...behold the power of paper.
* In today's market, "people" want jobs...
* With our changing demographic, health care "people" are one's who may be gainfully employed in the here and now as well as foreseeable future.
* Do you have your "web" service posted as a cross-reference at other hiring sites?
* Blog the healthcare logs with your site, accordingly. Word of mouth (online,) is your greatest advantage.
In my opinion, I would not go for medical records. One lost / compromised record and their lawyers will go for the jugular vein. May be a thought in time. Providing the ideas/plan for such an implementation may have potential. :)
Hope this helps. ;)
24th October 2009, 11:19 PM
* Blog the healthcare logs with your site, accordingly...
I'm not quite sure i caught that one part, but i like the rest.
24th October 2009, 11:33 PM
I'm not quite sure i caught that one part, but i like the rest.
:) Vector, good question. :)
Elaboration would be...for those who you are trying to place people...think of where they (your potential job hunters) go to voice opinions...for example, this fictitious example...www.whateverthewebblog.com has (medical oriented) blogs / forums where users go to express their input / opinion(s) regarding their employment with their company...word of mouth (online) is your best ticket. :)
Hope this help. ;)
24th October 2009, 11:36 PM
Oh, on this site employees AND customers/clients can give their opinions/ratings for Agencies ;). That way a client can see before they choose, and the same for potential employees. I love internet democracy :D
26th October 2009, 07:07 PM
Perhaps medical records could be stored in an encrypted fashion where the key depended on the users anonymous login names. So the stored information wouldn't actually contain something like a recognizable dental x-ray.
I think you'd be very lucky to get yet-another public opinion site to work. They need a critical mass of users. To get that, they need to be exceptionally convenient to use. I think the most consulted consumer reviews are on sites that sell the products.
For example (and to digress), I've often tried to look up IP addresses that seem to originate cyber attacks on computers. If you are looking for a list of "evil" IPs, I've found no sites that do this well. They don't have good database features. They don't have a good format for reporting attacks, which should include the time of the attack as well as the IP since IPs can be dynamically assigned. They also need some sort of "reputation" rating for the members of the site that report attacks in order to counteract deliberate slander.
Such a site doesn't necessarily cure anything about cyber attacks but I think it would be popular enough to support itself with advertising. It would be hard to develop such a site by low level programming but you might glue together some commercial database and forum-type software to do the job.
I wonder how people "stress test" computer networks. One thought would be to disconnect the network from the real internet and connected it to a server that simulated the internet and simulated attacks. That would be one use for a list of evil IPs.
26th October 2009, 08:20 PM
I like the idea for the IP thing. I don't think that it is something that much of a percentage of people will use, but i think that server administrators would love it. I will keep that in mind, should i ever come across enough free time to toss it around and brainstorm it.
You may be right about the public opinion thing too; but something that i just thought of earlier was that it would be a decent notch in my company's portfolio, at the very least. I still think that i may have an angle with the jobs thing, but that could be because i just happen to know a LOT of home healthcare personnel who HATE their employers :D. I don't know, but i'm going to give it a shot, and at least say i tried.
At least it can't be worse than the organizer i built, lol! I get emails and comments all the time saying "Hey, this thing rox!", but i only make 1 cents per day from the ads on it. Organizers are not that popular, and not that many people want to be organized; healthcare statistics are 1,000 time higher than organizer stats :D (literally)
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