fc11 sound emu10k1 dist.conf problems

[mattbrin]

My EMU 1212m (made by Creative and same chips as most SB cards) that ran perfectly under fc10 is totally silent under fc11. It used the emu10k1 driver under fc10. Somewhere on the net I saw some dist.conf entries that were supposed to cure fc11 problems. I cannot find that page again. Then I also saw that emu10k1 simply does not function under fc11.

My onboard sound works fine. The EMU card works fine under windows.

Does anyone know what the status of all of this is for fc11?

Even better, does anyone know how to get this card to function under fc11?

Thanks.

[Gödel]

It may be selecting onboard audio as default, in that case you need to set the emu card as the default card in /etc/alsa/alsactl.conf, or right-click the volume icon in the task bar and select it under preferences

[mattbrin]

It may be selecting onboard audio as default, in that case you need to set the emu card as the default card in /etc/alsa/alsactl.conf, or right-click the volume icon in the task bar and select it under preferences

My test is audacity which offers many devices for output. I can run a tone through any of them. I tried every combo of device with the preferences on the volume icon on the task bar. There are too many to report on. Some turned the onboard sound on and off and some had no effect on it. However NOTHING got sound to come out of the SB card. The SB card is offered in the audacity output menu in two flavors. There is also an offer of meu10k1 as an option. So the card is being recognized by something. It is just that nothing gets sound out of it. The card functions beautifully under windows, and it used to function under fc10. There is nothing wrong with the card.

[Gödel]

I don't use audacity, but I had a similar problem in F11 with onboard audio being selected in preference to an Audigy2 card, so I changed the default in alsactl.conf and rebooted and all was fine.

[mattbrin]

I don't use audacity, but I had a similar problem in F11 with onboard audio being selected in preference to an Audigy2 card, so I changed the default in alsactl.conf and rebooted and all was fine.

I'm willing to try. How does your file read?

[Gödel]

I'm not near that computer now, but I do recall that if I opened gnome-volume-control, under the output tab there were two internal audio devices, and if I changed from the default one then sound worked, so I would check that first.

[Gödel]

but for the record, I only had to change a 0 to a 1 in /etc/alsa/alsactl.conf (under "default"), and reboot.

You can see your recognised soundcards with 'cat /proc/asound/cards' , check which is 0 and which is 1

[mattbrin]

but for the record, I only had to change a 0 to a 1 in /etc/alsa/alsactl.conf (under "default"), and reboot.

You can see your recognised soundcards with 'cat /proc/asound/cards' , check which is 0 and which is 1

Tried both your suggestions. Neither helped. The number in alsactl.conf was 0 which /proc/asound/cards actually identified as the SB card. I switched to windows just to double check one more time that the card actually works. It does.

The computer sees the card. That is not the problem. When I switch to the SB card in the choice under volume control the sound does stop coming out of the onboard sound system. It just does not start coming out of the SB card.

[Gödel]

I assume you remembered to move the plug from the onboard output to the sb card.

The only other thing to suggest is run 'alsamixer -c0' and set all sliders to max, pulseaudio's 'flat-volumes' can mean that even some irrelevant sliders like 'Beep' requires setting to non-zero.

And if that doesn't work submit a bug.

[mattbrin]

I assume you remembered to move the plug from the onboard output to the sb card.

The only other thing to suggest is run 'alsamixer -c0' and set all sliders to max, pulseaudio's 'flat-volumes' can mean that even some irrelevant sliders like 'Beep' requires setting to non-zero.

And if that doesn't work submit a bug.

I don't know about a plug. The card works fine under windows. In windows I can switch between the onboard sound and the SB card via the system settings and also in some applications (like REAPER) with no problem at all.

I tried alsamixer -c0 and slid every single slide up. I don't know about pulseaudio's "flat volumes".

I even tried removing pulseaudio.

I suspect something about the driver (emu10k1) and the compatibility with the rest of the system. Do you know what kernel module you are using?

[Gödel]

No, I don't know the kernel module, I'll check next time get to boot the machine.

There was a common bug related to emu10k1 in f11 defaulting to spdif output, see if the advice here helps at all:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#Sound_Blaster_Live.21_cards_.28and _other_emu10k1-based_cards.29_default_to_digital_.28S.2FPDIF.29_o utput

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496320

(Ensure you have fully updated your F11 system)

[mattbrin]

No, I don't know the kernel module, I'll check next time get to boot the machine.

There was a common bug related to emu10k1 in f11 defaulting to spdif output, see if the advice here helps at all:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#Sound_Blaster_Live.21_cards_.28and _other_emu10k1-based_cards.29_default_to_digital_.28S.2FPDIF.29_o utput

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496320

(Ensure you have fully updated your F11 system)

I have tried every suggestion to no avail. The bug discussion you point to looks long and contentious. My fc11 is completely up to date.

I commented out the oss lines in dist.conf since I saw a note that oss conflicts with PA. No help.

I think I will try again in about 6 months and see if any improvement has taken place.

[mattbrin]

I made one last fling at the problem. It is an option on system -> advanced volume control -> preferences.

You have to choose as options dsp 0, dsp 1 (for input) and 0202 DAC left, and 202 dac right (for output).

Once those options are in place, then in the options tab, you have to pick what their sources are. For dsp 0 and dsp 1 choose 0202 adc left and 0202 adc right, respectively. For 0202 dac left and 0202 dac right, choose dsp 0 and dsp 1. Of course this can vary with internal setups. All this is for the emu 1010 plus 0202 card combo. For other emu cards, the options will be different. Now to see if all this works with jack. There are way too many layers in this sound system.