Core3 Test2 - a couple quick probs/questions

[mdemers883]

I just installed Fedora for the first time ever and went with the Core3 Test2. Install went perfectly. I updated my yum.conf to match what a forum member is using, that seems to be working fine thus far. I have a couple quick/probs questions that I could use a hand with.

Regarding Gnome:
I just check "about" gnome and found that it's version 2.7.92.1 ....I thought Core3 came with 2.8? Is there a way I can get up to 2.8?

About my other harddrive:
I have fedora loaded on my hda as the only OS on that drive. I have a second harddrive, hdb which holds all my mp3's and such (I used it as a file backup drive for windows) This drive was always automounted in SuSE 9.0 and I was able to navigate it (it's formatted in NTFS) but when I try to open in in "Computer" adn try to open my drive it won't open. I guess the kernel doesn't support the NTFS file system which I thought was wierd. Any clues how I would go about getting this up and running.

Definately liking Fedora so far, I love how the rpms are always up to date and distro specific :D Any help with my probs will be greatly appreciated and I look foward to using this forum quite a bit (I read it while I"m at work :P )

Mark

[jrittvo]

Fedora turns off NTFS support in their kernels, but you can turn it back on if you compile your own, or, there is a site that builds an NTFS kernel module rpm that you can install, but I don't think they do it for test versions -- the kernel updates too often in the test versions. Look here, anyway:

http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/downloads.html

Once you have NTFS support, you will be able to add a line to your fstab file to mount that partition for you each time you boot up.

Fedora turns NTFS off because they are not sure that MS won't argue at some point that it is not within their rights to distribute support for it. They stay away from mp3 support for the same sort of reason, but you will be able to find rpm's that add mp3 support back into the players, CD burners, etc.

On the Gnome version, 2.8 might have come out right after test 2 was released. I don't pay attention as I use KDE, but if your yum.conf is set for the "development" or "rawhide" areas, then you will be getting more current versions of everything -- almost too often to deal with -- like 40 or more packages a day, during testing.

[hiberphoptik]

you can actually run up2date or use yum and update all the way to gnome 2.8 i just did it yesterday with FC3t2 and it works great, even fixed the one issue i was having :)

[mdemers883]

you can actually run up2date or use yum and update all the way to gnome 2.8 i just did it yesterday with FC3t2 and it works great, even fixed the one issue i was having :)

I'm still very new to yum, I"ve only installed a couple packages. I'm curious, to upgrade to gnome 2.8 what command would I use?

[Shadow Skill]

Is there an rpm for the new 590 Kernel? I tried building my own but the build script says it can't read the source rpm...does anyone know the source code rpm's actual name?

[LordMorgul]

I'm still very new to yum, I"ve only installed a couple packages. I'm curious, to upgrade to gnome 2.8 what command would I use?

Edit the file /etc/yum.conf and add the following lines to replace the existing [development] section that is there. This adds several servers that have the Rawhide rpms (the development tree is called Rawhide). These are primarily west coast US servers and a few east coast US servers. If you are elsewhere.. you should get a local mirror url from the redhat mirrors list on the Fedora home site.


[development]
name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree
failover=priority
baseurl=ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/$basearch/
ftp://mirror.stanford.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/
ftp://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/linux/core/development/$basearch/
ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/fedora/development/$basearch/
ftp://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/
ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/
http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/
http://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/development/$basearch/
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/$basearch/


Update using the commands:

yum list updates # check what you see listed, you might not want to update everything
yum update # this one updates everything

If you want to learn more read up on yum, either the man page or go to www.fedorafaq.org.
Updating 'just gnome' would require you to know the names of the gnome packages invidually.. you can make a guess at most of them if you look at rpm -qa | grep gnome but this is not all the packages involved (if you specified those on the yum command it should handle getting other dependencies).

@Shadow Skill
Why are you recompiling a kernel? It may not be necessary for you to do this.

The 590 kernel was pulled back for the present.. if you want to build a very new kernel you would use the src.rpm, named kernel-2.6.8-1.590.src.rpm. It is compiled using the rpmbuild command.

[jrittvo]

Or, you could use that file to generate a source tree to build your own kernel by doing:

rpm -i kernel-2.6.8-1.590.src.rpm
rpmbuild -bp --target noarch /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/kernel-2.6.spec

and the sourcecode tree will end up in

/usr/src/redhat/BUILD