Gnome-shell?

[NBZ]

I notice that there is an rpm for it in rawhide, but I cannot seem to get it running successfully (only tried on a livecd).

Anyone had better luck?

[Demz]

gnome-shell for Gnome3 is in there, i know Tahul posted a howto on the test list awhile ago https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-August/msg00541.html there it isTesting GNOME Shell in rawhide

* From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram fedoraproject org>
* To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <fedora-test-list redhat com>
* Subject: Testing GNOME Shell in rawhide
* Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:31:28 +0530

Hi

Just a quick note that a very early version of GNOME Shell ( Window
Manager + Panel replacement for GNOME 3) is now in the repository

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell

# yum install gnome-shell

$ mkdir ~/.config/autostart

$ ln -s /usr/share/applications/gnome-shell.desktop ~/.config/autostart

File your bug reports here

http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/gnome-shell

Rahul

Ps: I had nothing to do with any of it. Merely testing it

[RahulSundaram]

Hi,

I have a section in the release notes with a easier way to launch it

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_release_notes#GNOME_Shell_-_Preview_of_GNOME_3

[a_small_cake]

I'm running gnome-shell on Fedora 12 LiveCD at the moment. I do really like it and I'm sure I will be using it on my desktop. This is most anticipated desktop feature for me in Fedora 12. I wish I could use it now in Fedora 11 but I don't want to mix my stable system with rawhide so I guess I will just wait. All in all three months aren't so much.

[quux]

I wish I could use it now in Fedora 11 but I don't want to mix my stable system with rawhide so I guess I will just wait. All in all three months aren't so much.

In fact, building gnome-shell on F11 from its git source tree in such a way that it does not interfere with any of your installed packages is quite simple thanks to jhbuild. In case you're interested you might want to take a look at the installation instructions in the gnome-shell docs (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell#head-3f60626bad6c0dbb60ecdbde36865c01a1dc1e98).

Running gnome-shell-build-setup.sh even tells you the development packages that have to be installed in order to build gnome-shell. After this, building is just a matter of running jhbuild build... and keeping your fingers crossed. ;)

[a_small_cake]

I tried and I failed miserably. Anyway thanks for help ;)

[LBCoder]

It builds very nicely using their instructions.

A few points to keep in mind following their directions though;

1) it will complain if you don't have gpk-update-icon running. I'm not sure if this will stop it from building right or if it can be ignored,
2) it may be missing packages required for build... it will actually pause during build, give you the missing package, and give you the option of continuing from that point.
3) disable compiz before running this... bad things may happen ;)

[LBCoder]

Here's mine:
Cute. Sure looks nice, and the transitions are beautiful.

But it is SERIOUSLY lacking in terms of usability.
What it is doing right now is just adding more clicks.
Now, rather than pressing the "applications" button to get the applications menu, you need to press the "activities" button and then the "browse" button. Thats an extra click. To switch to another desktop, rather than just clicking in the desktop you want, you have to press the "activities" button and then the desktop (if it is open). If it is not already open, you need to press the "+" button and THEN the desktop, up to THREE clicks for the same task as you could previously accomplish with ONE click.

Next... hopefully this is just a missing feature, but it NEEDS an application docking panel. It is not nice having to press the "activities" button and then hover over each (shrunken) open window to read the label and see which one to select. Minimizing windows is a nightmare. They just vanish without a trace. Sure you can alt-tab to them, but that is a pain.

Customization... right, they say that they don't want to have "infinite adjustments", but it would be nice to have at least SOME. The side panel for instance.... no apparent way to customize it.

Closing extra desktops... when you open a new desktop, there appears to be no way to close it after you are done with it, which means that the activities panel shows a huge hoard of tiny desktops, each of which hold all of their open applications spaced out, making it near impossible to find anything.



Summary: Cute, but useless. I hope that there is a LOT of work planned, or at least that they maintain gnome-panel forever, otherwise I'm going to have to drop gnome altogether.

[RahulSundaram]

Hi,

Do understand that this is a very early version. There is atleast an year or so more work on this before it reaches GNOME 3. So relax.

If you want to report missing features, bugs etc head to http:///bugzilla.gnome.org

If you have packaging issues, report them at http://bugzilla.redhat.com

[phoenixpb]

i have build gnome shell with jhbuild
it works but it's veryyy slowwwwwwwwwwww

same configuration works very well with FC12 alpha and compiz, no problem with the speed (can watch a dvd and so on)

[QuantumKnot]

You don't need to click 'Acitivies'. You can just move your mouse to the top left corner (like Expose on a Mac).

It works very well on my F11 box (used the jhbuild method). The only issue is there is no simple way of closing workspaces are in between two others....Hopefully they find a way of dealing with this. :)

[Igby]

You don't need to click 'Acitivies'. You can just move your mouse to the top left corner (like Expose on a Mac).

It works very well on my F11 box (used the jhbuild method). The only issue is there is no simple way of closing workspaces are in between two others....Hopefully they find a way of dealing with this. :)
To switch between the workspaces you can use the top left corner or the windows key or ctrl + alt + left/right (the fast method ;) ).
Maybe you wanna take a look at the CheatSheet (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet). :) Attention: Some things will only work with latest build...