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13th August 2009, 02:25 AM
Hi, I am new to Fedora.
Which one should I choose i386 or x86_64?
I've been looking for the information the different between those two and I have not found it yet.
13th August 2009, 02:30 AM
what kinda System do you have?. is it 64bit capable? give us more info
13th August 2009, 02:40 AM
I have Dual Core System with 2 GB of Memory
13th August 2009, 02:46 AM
If you are new to Linux the short answer is go with i386.
If you have a 64-bit machine and you want/need to get the last ounce of performance then might consider the 64-bit version. But be warned, you will have to deal with more problems.
I have 2 32-bit machines with fc10 i386 and they have been very very trouble free. Now I recently got a 64-bit laptop and installed the 64-bit fc10. If I had it to do over again I would go with plain old i386.
It seems that the 64-bit version is not as mature and well tested as the 32-bit version. For me, it's much more important if it "just works" than if its taking full advantage of the hardware. Ultimately you have to make the call, but if you're new to Linux I strongly recommend i386.
13th August 2009, 02:53 AM
you can install a 32bit OS on a 64bit system, you'll have less problems with Flash if you use a 32bit Linux release
14th August 2009, 02:21 AM
Thank you for all of your reply. I am downloading fc11 i386. still need to wait 4 more hours (download start 15 hours ago :( )
Another question. Though seems Demz already answer.
I can install i396 on 64bit system. does it mean I could use it on 8 GB of RAM?
64 bit, does it mean AMD 64 bit processor?
I think Dual Core or Core 2 Duo is 64 bit processor but it is seem not true.
14th August 2009, 02:29 AM
8Gigs Ram, i cant see why not. as the PAE kernel handles more Ram than that .just windows you will need to use a 64bit WindowsOS for it to handle anymore than 4gigs Ram
14th August 2009, 02:36 AM
still need to wait 4 more hours (download start 15 hours ago)Hello jgun98.milis,
That sounds like maybe a dial-up connection and probably the DVD ISO. Well, for next time you should know that you can do the default installation of Fedora using only the first two CDs of the CD set. You can also install a very basic but functional GUI system from the single LiveCD. Nowadays I like to do extremely small installations using only the first CD of the CD set and then build them up with yum installs. I don't recommend that to a beginner, but the point is that you might be able to save some time by not downloading that huge DVD ISO file (if that is the case here). And not only that, but after you install Fedora, you will be faced with a huge update download because at this point in F11's life cycle most of the packages on those DVDs and CDs will have been updated. See what I mean? You're basically spending 19 hours to download a ton of obsolete packages. That's the main reason that I do the extremely small installation and then yum install what else I want. It avoids the big download of an installation disk that needs a huge update download immediately. Anyway, carry on. You're nearly there now. But maybe for Fedora 12 you can try one of these other ideas.
P.S.: Don't forget that you need to verify the intergrity of that large ISO file by generating an SHA-256 hash from it and then comparing it to the hash in the file Fedora-11-[arch here]-CHECKSUM. It's important.
14th August 2009, 03:18 AM
Additionally, instaling yum-presto before updating might save you some bandwidth
14th August 2009, 11:03 AM
Is it compiler and other library on the first two cd?
Because I have tried Ubuntu live cd and when I install certain application that need C++ compiler I have to download Compiler and some other library. and because I install it on offline system this is an issue.
14th August 2009, 11:33 AM
Using 64 bit since Fedora 8 without big troubles. Adobe has 64-bit alpha flash player and it's quite stable. Just use flashblock add-on in Firefox for less flash usage.
14th August 2009, 02:28 PM
Is it compiler and other library on the first two cd?
Because I have tried Ubuntu live cd and when I install certain application that need C++ compiler I have to download Compiler and some other library. and because I install it on offline system this is an issue.I am not surprised to hear that gcc and the other compiler related packages were not on the Ubuntu LiveCD. That's probably true for the Fedora LiveCD, too. The LiveCDs run and install a very basic system due to space limitations on the single CD. Now, using the first two CDs of the Fedora CD set will install the default Fedora system (i.e., no additions to the package set in Anaconda). So, I would expect gcc to be installed, but I can't promise that.
P.S.: I just browsed the first two Fedora 11 CDs, and gcc was not in the Packages folders of either one. I imagine that Anaconda would also ask for additional CDs from the set if you add those development packages in Anaconda at installation time. So the CD set idea would probably not help your download situation much. But what about doing a minimal installation with the LiveCD or the first two CDs and then afterwards yum installing the just packages and/or package groups that you want? That might significantly reduce your download time versus the DVD ISO file. Next time, that is.
18th August 2009, 03:13 AM
Since I am new to fedora then I am not quite understand with yum and anaconda.
I think yum is a kind of program to download library or something that we need to compile. CMIIW.
I have plan to install fedora on the system that do not have internet connection that's why I should prepare all need library on the cd.
18th August 2009, 09:18 PM
I have plan to install fedora on the system that do not have internet connection that's why I should prepare all need library on the cd. Any ideas?Then you will have to install what you need from the DVD or the CD set. I only mentioned those ideas involving yum because it was not clear at that time that the computer involved had no Internet access. I apologize for the unnecessary diversion. To install the development tools that you need to compile source code, you probably need the DVD or at least the first four CDs of the CD set (maybe more).
19th August 2009, 02:54 AM
@stoat: there is nothing to apologize :) since I am not clear explain what I need. All people here are very helpfull.
But there is something I need to ask. Gummyworm said that 64 bit system not as mature as 32 bit system where vsaua said that he does not have problem with 64 bit system.
What make the different 64 bit and 32 bit system? and when we need 64 bit system?
19th August 2009, 03:35 AM
64-bit processor has 64-bit wide registers and datapath. In theory it should be faster than 32-bit, but except for large database applications and number-crunching they are more or less the same. 64-bit will use more memory because unless programs are carefully written it will use 64 bits for small numbers that only need 32 bits.
I don't think there are stability issues anymore. I have used 64-bit Fedora for years with no problems.
If you plan to use cross-platform software designed for Windows and 32-bit you will have to install lots of 32-bit libraries, which is the only real remaining drawback to 64-bit.
20th August 2009, 05:05 AM
I would like to test fedora 11 to host Oracle 10g Express edition. Is it possible?
20th August 2009, 05:08 AM
dont know but your best way to findout is to visit the oracle website an look at Operating system requirements
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