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carlwill
11th September 2004, 02:51 AM
Why do Gentoo users hate all other distros? Everytime I have a question about Fedora, all they can say is a comment about I should get rid of Fedora and use Gentoo -
Is Gentoo that great of a distro? They really swear by them - They kind of remind me of MAC users :p
imdeemvp
11th September 2004, 02:54 AM
because they believe they're LINUX gods!
i am RMP all the way...
carlwill
11th September 2004, 02:55 AM
yes, I don't mind being a RPM dependent whore :p
Shadow Skill
11th September 2004, 05:13 AM
RPM only seems to work 70% of the time anyway, feels about the same for source code too, the precentages are even lower with Mandrake and Suse....I've been fighting with vlc for quite sometime now and it just refuses to compile and ALL of the rpm's are broken POS, I can't honestly see how Gentoo would be any different...(Strangely enough Mplayer seems to almost always work regardless of distro which is really infuriating since it is such a craptapular video player, with a psychotic UI that is only truly usable from the CLI..it's probably the single most infuriating piece of software I have ever seen in my life.) I think its just being very religious about one's choice of OS not unlike the CRAP users out there, who want everyone to switch to CRAP and be "saved" from constantly crashing windows xp. (XP happens to be very stable as far as windows goes mind you, but then again I graduated from 98 to XP so what do I know.)
copland007
11th September 2004, 06:32 AM
As a past gentoo user myself I can tell you two big advantages I enjoyed.... 1) A stage 1 gentoo install was a better optimized system which lead to higher performance 2) RedHat always had, and continues to install everything under the sun even if I choose not to during the install process. That has it's up and downs, but I liked having very tight control with gentoo over what exactly got compiled and installed.
I recently switched to FC2 out of need actually, I had to get my server back online ASAP and didn't have the luxury of time to properly get another gentoo compiled.
I will say that these forums are great, I've found answers to everything so far. Being from redhat 6.1 and 7.1 days there's a lot of new goodies I had to get use to :)
In the end I think whatever distro you use, as long as you know how to tweak it properly you can end up with pretty much the same result.
carlwill
11th September 2004, 06:45 AM
In the end I think whatever distro you use, as long as you know how to tweak it properly you can end up with pretty much the same result.
I think I got misty eyed reading that :p
Well said ;)
imdeemvp
11th September 2004, 07:00 AM
Being from redhat 6.1 and 7.1 days there's a lot of new goodies I had to get use to
and just wait for fc3 is going to be great just by reading the preview...... :D
copland007
11th September 2004, 07:03 AM
and just wait for fc3 is going to be great just by reading the preview...... :D
Yeah it sounds good, I will enjoy getting my hands on it to test it out. Don't know if I'll jump the gun and update my production servers right away, but I'll play in the sandbox :)
inha
11th September 2004, 11:11 AM
I use both gentoo and fedora. I've got an alternative account on the gentoo forums which I use to tell my self stop using fedora.
I think both distros are great. Fedora is easier and requires a lot less tinkering but on the otherhand even though compiling everything takes a ****load of time the overall performance is better on gentoo. And I learned a lot about linux while doing the stage 1 installation.
In my always-correct-OS-awesomeness-ratings fedora and gentoo are pretty much tied.
jcstille
14th September 2004, 02:26 AM
I have a gentoo machine and a Fedora machine. I just think that Fedora has a much broader scope of users and gentoo has a hardcore group of linux purist. Gentoo is a pure application. It can also be more easily tweaked to an enterprise environment. But once again, it is all up to what you like, gentoo users don't like bloated kernels. Well I have a 2.4ghz machine with 1gb ram, I have technology that can handle a bloated kernel. It is like the difference between Java (slow as anything) and C++ (Which is fast and will let you do anything you want)
imdeemvp
14th September 2004, 02:48 AM
"gentoo has a hardcore group of linux purist"... nice quote :D
jcstille
14th September 2004, 05:14 AM
Thanks
I try
imdeemvp
14th September 2004, 08:24 AM
Thanks
I try
your part of the administrators team so you better know your words.........
:p
msimplay
15th September 2004, 06:28 PM
Its down to personal opinion
but i also regard Gentoo as the best version because of the optimisation and installing by source is made easy with portage
and the obvious benefits of installing by source are speed optimisations its what i use at home for everything
However i don't think i'd use it if i were an organisation simply because compiling and things could take time and Gentoo is a lot of bash commands and lots of console mode
I personally regard Gentoo as the best simply because of what it taught me about linux as a whole
everything is manual so that means you know where you might have gone wrong
On rpm distros you don't have to know what your doing however if you make a mistake you could be in trouble
for example i thought i'd crashed linux when i edited my xf86config incorrectly and to a newbie thats the end of the desktop near enough
but i've tried a lot of distros its down to you the user to find which one you like best is all :)
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