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hbbs
31st March 2009, 11:14 PM
Hi, I've just register in to let you guys know of an odd behaviour from fedora 11 Beta Live CD:

After finish copying the image to the hdd (sda) I recieve this message on the post-installation process:

An error occurred mounting device /dev/sda1 as /: mount failed: (2, None). This is a fatal error and the install cannot continue.

Press <Enter> to exit the installer.

I already try to install it with the / partition as ext3, ext4 and nothing seems to help.

More info from the vt:

INFO : moving (1) to step postinstallconfig

INFO : doing post-install fs mangling

INFO : going to do resize

INFO : mount SELinux context for mountpoint /mnt/sysimage to False

This HDD already has a /home directory sda6 ext4 (ubuntu)
I really don't know what else to do, I assume this is a regression because a couple weeks ago I installed rawhide without a glitch.

There is anyone else suffering from this or am I the "lucky one"?

Thanks for reading,

sideways
1st April 2009, 12:07 AM
If you have time you should post a bugzilla, usually you'll get some feedback from a dev on the fedora team.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/

bob
1st April 2009, 12:18 AM

And, you're not alone. Same problem, same result. I'm trying the DVD to see if it's different. Please let us know the bugzilla number so we can add ourselves to it.

Ah, never mind. I got over being lazy and filed it myself: Bug 493224 Submitted

sideways
1st April 2009, 01:11 AM
Ah, never mind. I got over being lazy and filed it myself: Bug 493224 Submitted
You were still too lazy to post the link
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493224

;):)

bob
1st April 2009, 01:14 AM
After screwing up the post twice, I hated to.

hbbs
1st April 2009, 01:18 AM
And, you're not alone. Same problem, same result. I'm trying the DVD to see if it's different. Please let us know the bugzilla number so we can add ourselves to it.

Ah, never mind. I got over being lazy and filed it myself: Bug 493224 Submitted

Thanks for filling the bug report.

I hope it will get a fix soon.

Kotr
1st April 2009, 02:14 AM
I don't think Anaconda could be any more broken than it is right now.

Kotr
1st April 2009, 03:11 AM
Bah, nothing works.

I even set up a new partition with fdisk and created my own ext3 partition using mke2fs.
So I ran through Anaconda, and only told it to mount / to the new partition, but not to format it, and it still managed to FUBAR the filesystem. :mad:

What the heck Anaconda?

bob
1st April 2009, 03:27 AM
Yep, the DVD install also borks. Let's hope that this gets fixed in a hurry.

Kotr
1st April 2009, 04:34 AM
Decided to get my hands dirty, and get my Gentoo foo on. ;)

So I found the filesystem isn't completely borked. I can mount the created filesystem just fine in the LiveCD (sda4 for me). It would not mount in Gentoo though, I believe it was seeing the filesystem as ext4, but I created it as ext3, this may be the culprit.

I snooped around a bit in the filesystem Anaconda created after mounting it in the LiveCD, I noticed /boot didn't have an initrd, so I created one. I didn't know the exact kernel version, so I used:

mkinitrd initrd-beta.img 2.6.29*

I used 2.6.29*, because again I didn't know the exact version, but this may have caused me some problems, I'll get to that in a second.

So I went into Gentoo and set up Grub to boot it since it had a kernel and a initrd now. (I checked other directories too, and they had things in there)
It mounted the kernel just fine, and loaded the initrd, but stopped on this error:

modprobe: FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.29-0.258.2.3.rc8.git2.fc11.i586/modules.dep: No such file or directory


This might have been a product of my flaky initrd creation, I don't know if that is the exact version, but I thought I tried something similar to that...

It's getting late, and I'm tired, so I'll take another look at this tomorrow. Maybe somebody else can expand on what I did and get a workaround going.

Going to post this on the bug report, and hopefully somebody at Red Hat sees this and gets something out of it.

bob
1st April 2009, 10:49 PM
Well, I'm into Beta now. From the DVD, went into Rescue Mode and found the beta install. Next, chroot /mnt/sysimage and then "grub-install /dev/sdb2" to install grub on (hd1,1). Actually failed the first time, but took it the second time. Reboot and.....seemed to go okay until hung at end of boot. Okay then, from a post in Bugzilla, I jumped back in and used vim to remove 'rhgb silent' and also add 'selinux=0'. Reboot and....here I am!

So, for now, I've disabled SELinux until I determine if we're set. Also returned 'rhgb silent' to the kernel line. Keep in mind, I'm using a 'configfile' boot, so I've got to play in grub.conf rather than editing the entries during the boot.

Here's my grub.conf if anyone needs some info:

title Fedora (2.6.29-0.258.2.3.rc8.git2.fc11.i686.PAE)
root (hd1,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29-0.258.2.3.rc8.git2.fc11.i686.PAE ro root=UUID=d1b47600-8ccd-42e5-af23-189a9285378e selinux=0 rhgb quiet
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.29-0.258.2.3.rc8.git2.fc11.i686.PAE.img

After I clean up 366 updates, I'll reboot and see if I can still get back here with this config. Edit: Yep, back and working fine.

Kotr
2nd April 2009, 05:05 AM
I created an ext4 filesystem by hand, becuase Anaconda would crash if I tried creating it there. The install went fine on ext4 without formatting the drive.

According to this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492727
What Anaconda is doing is creating a copy of the filesystem from the livecd into the rootfs. It's converting ext3 into ext4 because of the way it copies from the livecd apparently. This method seems overly complex and silly to me. Why not just copy the files instead of a bit for bit copy of the filesystem, and then expanding it to fit on your disk?

mcmackin
2nd April 2009, 05:49 AM
bob,

I'm at a loss, I've added you kernel appends and I still can't boot after install. I seem to hang at Starting atd. X never starts and I can't get a tty or anything. I don't know where to go from here, I can't believe it would be so difficult to install a distro in any form on Intel hardware...

Demz
2nd April 2009, 06:06 AM
Anaconda is still stuffed why didnt they test this before releasing a dodgy Beta

mcmackin
2nd April 2009, 07:41 AM
Here's something amazing...

I grabbed the Live CD and was able to install and then boot. I did notice that the only difference was that the DVD installed the PAE kernel and the CD installed the std kernel. At least I'm much further than before and this time around, the CD supported ext4...

Demz
2nd April 2009, 07:49 AM
Here's something amazing...

I grabbed the Live CD and was able to install and then boot. I did notice that the only difference was that the DVD installed the PAE kernel and the CD installed the std kernel. At least I'm much further than before and this time around, the CD supported ext4...

sexually transmitted disease kernel? :D

hephasteus
2nd April 2009, 08:02 AM
Anaconda is still stuffed why didnt they test this before releasing a dodgy Beta

I think it's just a no choice jump off the cliff hail mary move. That's the only thing that's going to work.I don't think they really have any choice. You can do squats and train but sooner or later you have to jump. Anaconda is going to get broken with everything that is happening in 11 which is what I've been worried about for a month.

The way they do things for hard drive and the way they have to change them to allow for new storage technology is going to break anaconda. HARD. Pain, suffering, misery could give birth to super fast storage. Honestly though if they don't relax the release schedule i'm switching to ubuntu. :D

Edited to give more information.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AnacondaStorageRewrite

Fedora. Now with more snakey snake.

Demz
2nd April 2009, 08:11 AM
well if this problem isnt fixed many will just stay with Fedora10 , its just gonna delay the Preview an final which will more than likely slow down fedora12's development schedule , perhaps they need to piush this new Storage in Anaconda to Fedora12 Development an have another Fedora11 Beta based on the previous anaconda which was in Fedora10

hephasteus
2nd April 2009, 11:16 AM
Well. Everyone wants what's on the other side but hard to find enough people to pay the pain for it. I want to try 11 beta but still can't help quite enough. 10 preview was hard enough for me.

I just don't think they can go back at this point. The other side is super easy raid, disk defragmentation, faster file systems, easy use of Solid state disks, etc. But the pain to get to it is complete rewrite on anaconda which needs tons and tons and tons of testing. Not something to be taken lightly.

10 was shaky with all the video changeovers and 11 will likely be shakey from both that and disk stuff. But not that I know everything about it or anything but just from where I sit the party on the other side looks good.

Linux getting redneck with hardware?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNV1vskINo

bob
2nd April 2009, 11:41 AM
It's still a Beta, of course, and plenty of time to get things fixed. Personally, I love the Alpha/Beta stages where breakage is a daily happening. Much more interesting to watch the scramble and creative workarounds in those stages. I guess that's why I hardly ever boot into another distro - perfection can be very boring.

Kotr
2nd April 2009, 01:45 PM
I think it's just a no choice jump off the cliff hail mary move. That's the only thing that's going to work.I don't think they really have any choice. You can do squats and train but sooner or later you have to jump. Anaconda is going to get broken with everything that is happening in 11 which is what I've been worried about for a month.

The way they do things for hard drive and the way they have to change them to allow for new storage technology is going to break anaconda. HARD. Pain, suffering, misery could give birth to super fast storage. Honestly though if they don't relax the release schedule i'm switching to ubuntu. :D

Edited to give more information.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AnacondaStorageRewrite

Fedora. Now with more snakey snake.

I think the way they're copying data off the livecd is wrong. From what I was told, that with the livecd, there was no way it could go without formatting your partition, even if you tell Anaconda not to format anything. This is the problem, if you create an ext3 partition, it formats it as ext4, which makes Anaconda exit before it can finish.

I think a better way to do it would be to copy the files, as files, instead of copying it as a disk image and mucking around with the filesystem. Merely copying files would be completely filesystem neutral, and *should* work no matter what filesystem you choose.

I feel like a broken record, but to install Gentoo you extract a tarball to the rootfs, and it dumps all a complete folder structure which includes config files and binaries. It doesn't matter what filesystem you choose. You can use ext2/3, XFS, or reiserfs all with the same tarball. The way Anaconda is doing it is trying to force the user to use ext4, regardless of what the user wants.

Demz
2nd April 2009, 11:28 PM
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes#Anaconda_installer_is sues have a look at that

ghilliker
3rd April 2009, 07:50 PM
Other than lost mouse pointer...live boot works fine.

George Hilliker
Hardware: Old HP/EVO desktop, 1.2Ghz P4, 2GB memory, 80GB Samsung ATA-6, KDS Monitor (sometimes 128KB NVIDA 5800 - now VGA onboard video), MS USB wireless Mouse. USB Keyboard. All BIOS settings at factory default.

contraculto
6th April 2009, 12:26 AM
that's too bad. we were installing it a friend's pc and it was lame. he was gonna try fedora for the first time and we didn't get past the installer. hope it works soon.

i'm on alpha, btw, and it's just awesome.

ghilliker
8th April 2009, 04:15 AM
I have a working Beta 11. The biggest issue so far is that Firefox and Evolution do not print to my MFC-465CN on the network. I can copy messages to Office Writer and print but not directly from either. I get the message that there were too many print errors.

gth

Demz
8th April 2009, 04:33 AM
i dont use Novel scumlution no more, im quiet happy with TB3