Will FC3T2 have X.org 3.7.99.9?

[Antioch]

Will FC3T2 have X.org 3.7.99.9? Or the supposed 3.8 release? A friend of mine compiled x.org CURRENT on the 4th and when he checked the version on it it reported 3.8.0.0...

[dpw2atox]

fist off its the 6.8.0 release and not the 3.8.0 release and yes it will ship with the latest version of xorg. Today xorg went stable for X11R6.8.0 and this will be included into FC3. Also any post release bug fixes that are made will be included. In rawhide there are rpms from 6.8.0 rc3 aka 6.7.99.903 and will probably be updated to 6.8.0 in the next few days. Im currently running RC3 and it works fine here. Only issue I had was the it crashed once on me with composite enabled and render accel after I played doom 3 but it hasn't crashed after I quit since (im using winex).

[zeos]

on the subject, how do you enable all the eye candy of 6.8? i dont think its turned on by default in test 2.

[dpw2atox]

First you have to modify your xorg.conf file and add enable the composite extension.

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Next you should enable renderaccel in your driver options.
For nVidia its
Option "RenderAccel" "true"

After this has been done then go to freedesktop.org and download and install xcompmgr and then launch it by typing in "xcompmgr -c". If you want to disable it then simply kill the process.

Note you need metacity 2.8.3 or higher to get a transparent window border. There is also support being added into XFCE 4.2

[LordMorgul]

I am running composite very nicely with xfwm4-4.0.6-1 (window manager for XFCE4) that is now in Rawhide.

If you are using the livna.org nvidia-glx rpms (and the configuration script that comes with it) the script nvidia-config-display will complain about (and possibly remove) the Section "Extensions" configuration. You should disable the script at boot time until this is fixed.

[Picomp314]

just for reference it is now at x.org version 6.8.1

and with the xcompmgr command you can also enable windows that fade in using the -t switch
its awesome give it a try...
Option "RenderAccel" "1" definitely speeds things up make sure u include it

[DJayC]

Are there rpms for 6.8.1 available to use with FC2?

[Picomp314]

i really don't think they would provide an upgrade to such a central part of an OS after it's release
unless the issue was security related, but did not rewrite some important parts of X itself
i suggest you install FC3T2 if you want the latest stuff
you will ALMOST certainly break something by trying to install the relevant FC3T2 packages onto FC2

[LordMorgul]

Unless a very recent change was made to xcompmgr that remapped the switches, I believe you meant -f for fading windows, -t modified the shadow offset on top window borders in xcompmgr 1.1 from 2004-09-23.

@DJayC, I also suggest you do not attempt to switch FC2 to the latest Xorg packages. It is very unlikely that 6.8.x will arrive on FC2 unless a community packager rebuilds it using the FC2 devel packages.

[DJayC]

Darn.. I really wanted to try out the new x.org release with compositing. I'm new to Fedora, coming from Gentoo (and slackware before that). I'm tempted to build from source, but as I understand it, that could ruin my RPM database. Is it stupid to install the test releases of FC3? I'm running FC2 now... I'd prefer stability over anything, of course...

[LordMorgul]

I consider FC3t2 usably 'stable' but there are of course several bugs that could bite you.. If you are going to chase 'latest and greatest' with it you should do regular updates from Rawhide until you feel the system is stable and featured enough to leave it static for awhile.

Coming from Gentoo and Slack I imagine you will manage fine with Rawhide if you have a few annoyance bugs get in your way. It is definitely a bad idea to build X from sources and replace the rpm installed setup. If you want to build the FC3 xorg, using as much of the FC2 packages as possible (not updating the whole system), then get the src.rpms for xorg-x11 and rebuild them (after you update anything required from other Rawhide packages). This is not a simple process, it would be easier to update your entire system to FC3t2. I do not want to give you false hope in the idea of rebuilding xorg... it may never work for you.