FedoraForum.org Guidlines

[superbnerd]

I was looking for a guideline for fedoraforum and noticed the one on the front page about mid way down. Perhaps there should be a sticky that keeps the guidelins as the first section on the list of forums so new users can easily find and read it. Or maybe you can get fancy and make it the first page that shows up when a newly registered user views the forum section.
I noticed it mentions the unofficial fedorafaq (fedorafaq.org). Why doesn't it mention the unofficial fedoraguide (fedoraguide.org)? Sure their website looks terreible, but it has very useful information that would probably solve alot of newbies' questions.

[imdeemvp]

i seconded superbnerd

[superbnerd]

@imdeemvp thank you.
its just that almost every newbie ask how to install package xyz, and some semi newbie tells them go to this link and try this random package or this tarball. one things most newbies complain about is the difficulty of installing new packages, and this has been true until fc1/fc2. it would help linux be able to support this new influx of newbies. plus, it would help give fedora, if not the linux community, a common cultural introduction which would help ameliorate the shock of having so many choices (which is a good thing).

[Ug]

In my experience I've found the Fedora Guide rather inadequate. It was also written by a novice, which diminshed its value.

I've found it to be more of a hinderance than a help.

[superbnerd]

really, wow. i found a few nifty tricks thier that I hadn't thought of or never really needed like how to make your own updates released cd, and it has a nice simple run down of basic security like puting a password on grub. some are basic oversights that fedorafaq doesn't have. but of course, it your call. but what about making it a sticky?

[imdeemvp]

what about all those samples they display for others to use and do? for a novice he sure proved that it can be usefull to others.... f.e. the new comers to fc2....

i always like to see the underdog as someone that can accomplished goals rather the look down on him or her,
now i wonder what this guy has to say? Linus Torvalds......... perhaps M$ knows. :rolleyes:

[Ug]

FedoraNEWS (http://www.fedoranews.org) and the Unofficial FedoraFAQ (http://www.fedorafaq.org/) are the only sites we will officially support at the moment.

If you look at FedoraNEWS in particular, you will find lots of tutorials.

[foolish]

I will never point anyone to the fedora guide. This is nothing personal, it's quite obvious that the writer(s) of the guide are very eager to help and provide a service to the Fedora Community, and I'm grateful and so is the rest of the community.

However, fedoraguide.org isn't well written. It's full of pitfalls and it's only a good reference to people who know enough to sort out the ickyness. Besides, we don't need two resources like this, and fedorafaq.org is the one I'm supporting, just like FedoraForum is the forum I support and not that other one, FedoraChat.

Please don't feel discouraged, please continue to help the community, please continue to provide a service, but please try to research topics before putting up instructions. Personal experience is good, but you have to do research, get feedback from other users and make sure you're not doing anything that may harm the user. "Works for me" just isn't good enough.

Bottom line, in it's current state, fedoraguide.org won't make it into anything I have any control over. If you want to get into details about why, send me an email.