Lost harddrive

[Frila]

When I try to install F10 on a computer with two harddrive disks the second disk is not recognized at all.

They are both Samsung ATA HD160JJ and in Windows the first one is Master and the second Slave. It is on the second drive I want to install Fedora.
I have a portable computer with two harddrives where it was no problem installing Fedora on the second drive and have Win on the first.
If I check the disk with fdisk I only find sda1 and sda2 which are the two partitions on the först drive. No sdb :confused:

[root@localhost ~]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x9f9fe996

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 1275 10241406 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 1276 19457 146046915 7 HPFS/NTFS
The same result I get with gparted LiveCD - no sdb!

[Seve]

Hello:
Check the jumpers on the drive and if you can, switch them to cable-select and try your install again.

Seve

[Frila]

If I disable the first drive by disconnecting power it does not recognize the second drive. So even if the first drive doesn't exist the second one does not appear!?

[sidebrnz]

If you use the Windows partitioning software, does that second drive show up? If not, check the cabling, the jumpers, if any, and the BIOS to see if it shows up.

[Frila]

If you use the Windows partitioning software, does that second drive show up? If not, check the cabling, the jumpers, if any, and the BIOS to see if it shows up.

Yes, the drive is visible in Explorer. I can save and delete files when running Windows. I just defragmented the disk...
Just want to clarify that they are SATA disks. No. 1 visible, No. 2 "non existing".
According to bios they are identical :confused:

Can jumper be set on SATA disks to make them behave in a certain way?

[Nokia]

Try another distro, like OpenSUSE 11.1 or Ubuntu 8.10. You need to clarify if it's a Fedora-related bug or hardware issue.

[hephasteus]

If I disable the first drive by disconnecting power it does not recognize the second drive. So even if the first drive doesn't exist the second one does not appear!?

Make very very sure it is set up right. Windows xp will let you get away with some configuration errors but Linux won't. Is the first drive set as master and second drive set as slave and are you very very sure they are set right according to jumper tables ontop of drive? Is master on end of cable and slave in middle of cable. Is the long piece of the cable going from slave to motherboard or is it turned around. Linux is going to get into every little bit of that hardware and wants to know if it's set right. No fudging.

[Nokia]

I disagree. If there are cable misconfigs the BIOS is the one who will not permit any os to load. It's not like Windows is more permisive than other os'es.

[hephasteus]

If I disable the first drive by disconnecting power it does not recognize the second drive. So even if the first drive doesn't exist the second one does not appear!?

If they are sata than they are not ATA or IDE.
Think it's a samsung hard drive bug in kernel that IBM is working on.
Your drives are Samsung SATA II 160gb drives.

Reading through bug reports last night and this morning I ran across a report on those. So think it wont work until 28 kernel though you might get them to work if you set them up raid 0 striped but I wouldn't try that on your own. Gparted will have the same kernel bug as fedora core 10 so likely miss the 2nd one also.

[Frila]

If they are sata than they are not ATA or IDE.
Think it's a samsung hard drive bug in kernel that IBM is working on.
Your drives are Samsung SATA II 160gb drives.

Reading through bug reports last night and this morning I ran across a report on those. So think it wont work until 28 kernel though you might get them to work if you set them up raid 0 striped but I wouldn't try that on your own. Gparted will have the same kernel bug as fedora core 10 so likely miss the 2nd one also.

I managed to install Fedora 9! The second drive was recognized by F9 partitioner.
(Tried Ubuntu 8.1 but the second drive was not recognized here either...)

But, now I can't update anything... I have only limited access to Internet??
For example I can go to www.google.se and search for anything but when i click on a link nothing happens. Some other places are also accessible but not fedora forum and update sites for Fedora as a couple of examples. This is to extremely mysterious, have never experienced this before :confused:
No problems pinging whatever.

Start to feel desperate :(

[Frila]

Try another distro, like OpenSUSE 11.1 or Ubuntu 8.10. You need to clarify if it's a Fedora-related bug or hardware issue.

The same with Ubuntu 8.10 :(.

[Nokia]

What about Ubuntu 8.04 ? Try it. If you'll have working Ubuntu 8.04 and F9 operational but not F10/Ubuntu 8.10 that would narrow the search area.

[hephasteus]

I managed to install Fedora 9! The second drive was recognized by F9 partitioner.
(Tried Ubuntu 8.1 but the second drive was not recognized here either...)

But, now I can't update anything... I have only limited access to Internet??
For example I can go to www.google.se and search for anything but when i click on a link nothing happens. Some other places are also accessible but not fedora forum and update sites for Fedora as a couple of examples. This is to extremely mysterious, have never experienced this before :confused:
No problems pinging whatever.

Start to feel desperate :(

Have to add rpm fusion to the system. Look at stickies.

[Frila]

First step solved! Fedora 9 installed. Suddenly update worked? Now to Fedora 10...