SB Live Value no sound at all knobs taunt me.

[Akukami]

I have this annoying problem with Fedora Core 2. Ever since I installed it it has been unable to play sounds of any kind. I've tried using the sound detection and it picks the card up well enough “[SB Live! Value] EMU10k1X” but I can not hear the test sound.

I've hit Google like a brick and have tried several things, from trying to install GNOME ALSA Mixer, which I got to install but no dials knobs or anything will pop up and when I open something in it it has a error, to even trying to install ALSA it's self, only to find out a bit later I don't need it at all ><;;. I've tried messing with the volume but the darn knob taunts me and goes down every time I bring it up.

Doe's anyone know how to get the sound to work? Any advise or pointing in the right direction would be great fully appreciated.

my /sbin/lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE Host-to-AGP Bridge (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB/ER Hub interface to PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) LPC Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM (ICH4) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] (Secondary)
02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] EMU10k1X
02:02.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] Input device controller
02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BD PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 81)
02:0c.0 Modem: Broadcom Corporation BCM4212 v.90 56k modem (rev 02)
[root@md root]#

[imdeemvp]

are you speaker cables connected from pc to speakers?

i see you sound card is detected....

[Akukami]

are you speaker cables connected from pc to speakers?


Yes the speakers are properly connected. They work in Windows XP perfectly.

[ghaefb]

Check your gnome-volume-control, make sure Master/Volume, PCM, PCM2 are up.
SB Live Value should work in FC2... I have no problems using the same sound card.

[Akukami]

Check your gnome-volume-control, make sure Master/Volume, PCM, PCM2 are up.
SB Live Value should work in FC2... I have no problems using the same sound card.


I just tried what you recommended but a error poped up after doing gnome-volume-control.

"Error: Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found"

Any more ideas? And was your card as much of a pain to set up?

[ghaefb]

My card didn't need a set up. It just worked.

And this is weird "EMU10k1X" ?
I have "EMU10k1" without the X.

Post your lsmod

[imdeemvp]

right click on your volume icon (in gnome is next to the pc clock) and go to Open Volume Control Center and check to see if something is muted.....also make sure the volume bar is up because fc2 has the issue with the volume bar being down....and you have to mess around with the volume control center....

also go to >Preferences > Sounds > Enable sound events and lets us know......good luck:D

[Akukami]

imdeemvp I tried your suggestion but it still complained to me about a mixer.

Yea it's a EMU10k1X because it's from Dell. I'm tempted to just buy a new soundcard, possably the same SB Live 5.1. Though I'm hopeing to get this to work to save some cash.

Heres the lsmod

# lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_pcm_oss 42985 0
snd_mixer_oss 14017 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_emu10k1 88649 0
snd_rawmidi 21733 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm 83529 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1
snd_timer 25413 1 snd_pcm
snd_seq_device 6473 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec 58821 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_page_alloc 8393 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 3521 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep 6597 1 snd_emu10k1
snd 45349 10 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmi di,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec ,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep
soundcore 7713 1 snd
parport_pc 21249 1
lp 9133 0
parport 35977 2 parport_pc,lp
autofs4 20677 0
sunrpc 141861 1
e100 34373 0
mii 3777 1 e100
ipt_REJECT 5057 1
ipt_state 1857 6
ip_conntrack 25569 1 ipt_state
iptable_filter 2369 1
ip_tables 13889 3 ipt_REJECT,ipt_state,iptable_filter
floppy 54001 0
sg 28385 0
scsi_mod 105361 1 sg
microcode 5601 0
dm_mod 47317 0
uhci_hcd 28505 0
ehci_hcd 27973 0
button 4825 0
battery 7117 0
asus_acpi 9177 0
ac 3533 0
ext3 96937 2
jbd 66521 1 ext3

[ghaefb]

It looks ok.
Hmmm I really don't know what's wrong.

Did you try alsamixer ?

[Akukami]

This keeps poping up when I try it

# alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device

:confused:

[ghaefb]

Read here -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&forumid=2&threadid=157454
You may need to reinstall ALSA.
It looks like the solution is in snddevices script from ALSA installation or something....

*out of wisdom*

[owakroeger]

I had the same problem with that. I fixed mine by disabling the onboard sound in bios. If you have an onboard sound capability, by default your machine is going to use it, no matter what you tinker with in the controls.
Get into bios, and disable onboard sound. Reboot, and then all your controls will work.
:) :) :) :) :)
owa

[diablo93]

I have the same problem. Dell just screwed everything up!!!!! anyway, the problem is still there in test 3 of fedora core 3. I have filed a bug and I don't have onboard sound so I don't think that that is the problem.

[strawderman]

I had the same problem and found the following hint on this forum:

"I had the exact same problem with FC2. However, I found that in my case it
was a very trivial problem: under kmix, I check the advanced checkbox at the
bottom and disabled Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack. You might have
already tried that, but just in case..."

When I did this, I went from silence to sound.

So, run kmix. Click the advanced box at the bottom of the page. If
the little green light under "Audigy Ana..." on bottom left is bright green,
uncheck it. Then go to the sound card detector and ask it to play the test
sound (you might need root passwd to do this).

[johovishta]

I had this problem with the SB Live card from Dell
I tried for weeks with ALSA and OSS and failed.
My solution .....get a new card I got the CMedia one (cheap) stuck it in and had sound in < 5 minutes after running the ALSa install
I have seen a few forums across the net with people tearing their hair out over this card....some ppl have managed to get it working others not.....but is it worth the grief over a soundcard (which are SOOO cheap!!)
- Johovishta

[Jayzer]

I cant believe that this is happening again... Grrrrrrr... Many years ago, I've bought a 4 pack cd of Redhat (or perhaps it was 3 cd, not sure)... tried installing the thing... runned into errors... again and again... left the whole thing in my closet... Many years later, after a friend told me "installing Fedora is painless now" I've given it another chance... Downloaded Fedora Core 2, thinking it should be stable, by now... Well, I had to reinstall it about 8 times before it got through... Believe it or not, the installation prg stopped at some point because I've clicked Installation notes or something like that... anyway, now I got it runnin... but the soundblaster live doesnt want to play... how the hell is this possible?! Redhat has been under development for yeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars!! Its really not tomorrow that Linux will take the market of Microsoft XP... Jesus-Christ... I'm not sure what I'm going to do with this... Think I'm gonna return to Windows 2000...

By the way, from what I've seen, Anaconda really messes up during the installation if, like it happened in my case, you delete two ex3 partitions... donno why it happens but I got the message three times in a row, while trying to install Linux in that new free area: trying to get the size of partition before partition has a size error, exception error, report that error to bugzilla blabla... well, there was several lines and I didnt write them all... from what I've read here, if I wanna make my SBLive work in Fedora Core 2, I will have to download 3 packages, compile them, install them, write a script... even in the time of MS-DOS or Win 3.1 it was not that complicated! With MS-DOS and ISA, you had to specify some IRQ, which DMA channel to use, etc... but that was not a matter of hours... This is really ridiculous...

Think I'm gonna stick to Win2K for a while... or until there is an easy way to get that soundcard to work!!

P.S. I don't quite get the point of the other one before me saying something like "Why don't you get another soundcard?" This is a PCI-128 5.1 soundcard... 4 years old or so but... I dont see any need for a 1024 bits/sample 7.1-channel soundcard in my puter. Do you? It should be working fine... from what I've read, the SBLive is not the only soundcard to have caused problems... Anyway, someone should have performed a few more tests before releasing that FC2 in the wild like that... There is definitely a major problem when you hate Microsoft, try to find some better OSes, think FC2 should do better... just for ending up many hours later that Microsoft isnt that bad after all... good luck to all other SBLive (and alike) owners!

[owakroeger]

If you have a built-in sound card as well as the SB Live card, try disabling on-board sound in BIOS, reboot, and adjust the volume controls in ALSA. That fised it for me.
owa