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sideways
26th November 2008, 12:46 PM
The release of F10 demonstrated that bittorrents are no longer a viable way to share data.

Everyone around the world reported really poor speeds. It wasn't the case with F9 release.

Has the credit crunch hit bittorrent networks. wtf is going on?

SlowJet
26th November 2008, 01:18 PM
So how do you and would wide reporters propose 17.119 TB of the i386 DVD be distributed any faster in 20 hours?
OH, I have an idea. How about some of the 5,000 finished users get back onine and seed for 20 hours? dah!

SJ

sideways
26th November 2008, 01:29 PM

I just don't get how the torrent downloads are so slow.

It's never been like this this.

Maybe some ISPs are limiting traffic, but worldwide I would expect it to even out.

I think F10 just broke the bank as far as ISP download limits are concerned.

YeOK
26th November 2008, 01:52 PM
Weird, I started a server to help seed both DVD's and got 500kbs download on each, they are seeding at about 400kbs each. Speed is there, I guess its just bit-torrents built in tit for tat system slowing people down.

SlowJet
26th November 2008, 01:58 PM
Let them eat cake. :)

SJ

kasperd
26th November 2008, 02:07 PM
I downloaded the i386 DVD image. It took about 80 minutes and was using about 50% of my downstream most of the time. For some reason it never used more than 10% of my upstream, does the client have a limit on how fast it will seed?

SlowJet
26th November 2008, 02:16 PM
I downloaded the i386 DVD image. It took about 80 minutes and was using about 50% of my downstream most of the time. For some reason it never used more than 10% of my upstream, does the client have a limit on how fast it will seed?

BT is like like a Horoscope, useless without date, time and place of birth.

But it seems like you did that early on or just recently.
I only got tit fot tat for 67% then I got about a 3 to 1 d/l for 6 hours to finish.
But there was a constant 2,500 to 3,500 lechers and several hundred less seeders than now.

The BT is about volume and different sets of data being seeded to many users which in turn must seed to others or the total distribution gets flushed back to a smaller set and it starts over again..

SJ

rkl
26th November 2008, 02:56 PM
The .torrent files for F10 were actually put on the Web site at 13.13 UTC on the release day and I downloaded the one for the 64-bit DVD ISO a few minutes after that. It was initially rejecting connection to the tracker as I expected, but when the torrents.fedoraproject.org site updated to include links to the F10 torrents, Azureus retried and my torrenting started (around 14.10 UTC or so).

What I noted was that there was initially only one main seeder (well, almost - 99.9% that moved to 100.0% a short while later) and it took a fair amount of time (a couple of hours) for more than a handful of seeders to turn up. I also kept an eye on those well ahead (i.e. moving rapidly through 80%/90%) and several of them disconnected the second they hit 100% (hit-and-run) which considering this was in the first few hours, was quite poor.

It took a while for speeds to hit 500Kbytes/s or higher - something like 3 hours or so, but eventually I got it all down in about 4 hours. I don't know about the i386 DVD torrent, because I've been 64-bit on Fedora ever since it was first available years ago. No problems installing F10 on my quad core Dell Vostro 400 - just waiting for the fglrx RPMs to turn up on rpmfusion and I'll switch to F10 full time...

SlowJet
26th November 2008, 05:37 PM
i386 DVD of 3.4GB is d'/l'ing 245 copies/hour on avg.
That's one every 15 seconds, or 1/4 the volume of the total FC6 speed of 3.8 second per copy.

Seems fast to me.

SJ

sideways
26th November 2008, 05:42 PM
I've been seeding +24hours now, still not got 100% share ratio for the DVD. I have 1MB/s upload capable link, that's shocking performance.

I think the ISPs must be globally limiting torrent downloads, so I got a very fast speed in the first few hours yeserday and then when everyone started downloading the speed went down. It's due to Fedora's increasing immense popularity, I've not seen the problem in the past.

hiberphoptik
26th November 2008, 05:48 PM
i stopped using BT a looong time ago, a straight http download is far faster, finding a good mirror I can usually get the full DVD iso from an http download in about 30-45 minutes

JONOR
26th November 2008, 07:04 PM
My F10 i386 DVD torrent has managed about 42% after 24 hours. From the flashing modem lights and saw tooth speed test results i suspect it is ISP choking. All activity usually ceases after about an hour. My ISP did discourage torrents originally i seem to recall. If i switch off my modem and then restart it the torrent springs back to life for another hour - yipeedo ! If you are looking at a lot of zeros for your download speed this might help.

Lindy
27th November 2008, 05:27 AM
I don't have the fastest connect. (250kb/s down 150 up) When I started dl'ing 10 the going was very slow which I attribute to fewer seeders than leechers, but currently I'm showing more seeders than leechers so I'm at least getting full speed now, and should be completed some time tomorrow :) Go seeders! Stay the course!

kevmif
27th November 2008, 08:26 AM
Internode mirror normally gives me 600kbps+ on my 8mbit ADSL connection.
Was lucky to get a constant 300kbps yesterday :(