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superbnerd
2004-08-08, 04:29 AM CDT
maybe there should be a poll, but what terminal do you guys use? I think I am gettin tierd of gnome-terminal crashing and being slow. what do you suggest I switch to, xterm (kinda ugly), aterm, etc.?
thanks
ghaefb
2004-08-08, 04:45 AM CDT
You can creat a poll if you want.
My choice: aterm - simple, fast, configurable,....
kosmosik
2004-08-08, 05:22 AM CDT
maybe there should be a poll, but what terminal do you guys use? I think I am gettin tierd of gnome-terminal crashing and being slow. what do you suggest I switch to, xterm (kinda ugly), aterm, etc.?
thanks
i use Eterm since it has neat transparency with shadow under fonts ;) xterm is not ugly. you just need to configure it. I managed to use it with AA fonts and it looked good (and was fast)...
xterm
http://www.e.kliper.eu.org/?mode=photoez&dir=screenshots&file=notebookoo.jpeg
Eterm
http://oceanic.wsisiz.edu.pl/~kosmowsk/misc/mc.jpeg
rkl
2004-08-08, 06:18 AM CDT
I just use gnome-terminal, which I know is boring, but it works for me. The settings I change are:
LucidaTypewriter 9 font
Switch off cursor blinking (can't stand it - horrible, horrible, horrible)
Run command as login shell
Control-H for backspace and delete key generation
I also edit /etc/DIR_COLORS so that it's set to "COLOR none", cos coloured directory listings are virtually unreadable and I cannot believe that they are the default.
kosmosik
2004-08-08, 07:31 AM CDT
well gnome-terminal is kinda odd :) when you run a compile on it (or whatever, just someting that produces a lot of output on terminal) gnome-terminal takes most of CPU (more than compilation) time... that is not cool :)
taylor65
2004-08-08, 09:07 AM CDT
If you don't like gnome-terminal, try konsole - it's has quicker response time.
crackers
2004-08-08, 11:01 AM CDT
- xterm is the "grand-daddy" of them all and, therefore, is the "simplest"
- rxvt is kind of a "fork" of xterm in that they removed the Techtronix emulation, but added some bells-n-whistles (backgrounds, etc.)
- aterm is also kind of a fork, but is even "lighter" than rxvt
- eterm took a slightly different direction and was/is intended primarily for the Enlightenment environment
- gnome-terminal and konsole are johnny-come-lately entries, but with all sorts of extras added, like the multiple terms in one window
amazoneveryday
2004-08-08, 03:41 PM CDT
I'm addicted to tabbed browsing and I think konsole's multiple tab thing is a great analogue. It takes a little bit longer to load up originally (and if you don't turn off it's sound thing it will try to start artsd) but it's not too shabby a console once it's running.
I just never close it and turn off the audible bell. Works for me.
Yeah it's uglier'n an inbred wombat, but very functional, i think.
seabass55
2004-08-08, 03:54 PM CDT
xterm and aterm here
Jman
2004-08-08, 04:25 PM CDT
gnome-terminal with white text on black background. I like the tabbed terminals.
imdeemvp
2004-08-08, 05:50 PM CDT
i use the gnome terminal and it has never crashed on me.....:D
i dont understand why some many people have issues with their system crashing to often or not workinp propaly but none of my pc's (=3) crashes on me.....i sometimes wonder if they also update their bios too ????? which is essential when they have hardware issues :D
Varkk
2004-08-08, 05:55 PM CDT
Konsole here, but I am a KDE nut
crackers
2004-08-08, 09:02 PM CDT
I like 'em small and fast - I usually need to see about 3 or more at the same time, so I tend to go with aterm and xterm.
imdeemvp
2004-08-09, 10:37 PM CDT
i hear flubox terminal pretty fast too....
crackers
2004-08-10, 08:20 PM CDT
i hear flubox terminal pretty fast too....
The "default" terminal in Fluxbox is xterm. ;)
Picomp314
2004-08-10, 08:34 PM CDT
gnome-terminal seems to work well for me
although i will have to investigate the supposed performance differences...
crackers
2004-08-11, 09:04 PM CDT
My beef with Konsole, and even more with Gnome-terminal is the memory footprint. Them thangs is big - I need the RAM for those pesky J2EE servers... :)
Shadow Skill
2004-08-30, 02:20 PM CDT
Where are the Eterm configuration files stored? The faq on the Eterm site manages to not tell me the path to the pixmap.list file so I can turn off the damned random backgrounds.
kosmosik
2004-08-30, 02:53 PM CDT
http://dist.schmorp.de/rxvt-unicode/
it has AA fonts, transparent BG's, unicode and it is small... quite cool but I can't compile it on FC1 to get a grip on that :\
ghaefb
2004-08-31, 02:45 AM CDT
My choice: aTerm -> http://aterm.sourceforge.net/
imdeemvp
2004-08-31, 04:12 AM CDT
My choice: aTerm -> http://aterm.sourceforge.net/
i installed it to give a try....and i run the command aterm and it comes up now how do you configure this poppy to be trasparent.....and i read the README file
;)
ghaefb
2004-08-31, 04:18 AM CDT
Just run: 'aterm -help' or 'man aterm'
Transparent aterm: 'aterm -tr'
imdeemvp
2004-08-31, 12:40 PM CDT
sweet it works......i'll play with it later on....:D
ewdi
2004-08-31, 01:08 PM CDT
i got a habit of using kterm :p it's a presonal preferences :p
imdeemvp
2004-09-01, 01:35 AM CDT
i found an rpm download of aterm for fc2 (http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1198558/com/aterm-0.4.2-0.fdr.5.2.i386.rpm.html) there is also one for fc1 in the same site....i got my workin' fine......:D
Edon
2004-09-03, 04:05 AM CDT
gnome-terminal was always my choice.
It seems to work faster in fedora, thought they patched it whith a performance patch that I saw times ago in gnome bugzilla.
imdeemvp
2004-09-03, 04:17 AM CDT
the only thing i dont like about xterm no copy and paste capabilities like in gnome terminal
ghaefb
2004-09-03, 04:52 AM CDT
I think copy/paste is a bad habbit.. when working with terminal
Don't do it. It's better to memorize the command :)
olivierv
2004-09-03, 05:14 AM CDT
I'm rather fond of gnome-terminal, and I use KDE. It's fast and the transparency works a lot better than Konsole's (try dragging *that* around with transparency on). I've also tried eterm, but I keep going back to gnome-terminal.
crackers
2004-09-03, 10:18 PM CDT
imdeemvp - I guess you've never done copy-n-paste using just the mouse, have you?
Picomp314
2004-09-03, 10:19 PM CDT
that is horrible i cant believe you speak of using a mouse for terminal business
hotkeys or NOTHING
almost everything is a hot key on my computer
ex: <ctrl><alt>c = gnome-terminal
<ctrl><alt>g = gedit
etc...
imdeemvp
2004-09-03, 10:24 PM CDT
I think copy/paste is a bad habbit.. when working with terminal
Don't do it. It's better to memorize the command :)
when i download a package and the name is too long......i go to the folder where its downloaded and right click on it and select rename and i copy that....
then i type the command at the terminal such as: rpm -i or tar xzvf and paste the package's name so i can install it....i find it better then to keep looking at a lot of letters and numbers... :D
imdeemvp
2004-09-03, 10:27 PM CDT
imdeemvp - I guess you've never done copy-n-paste using just the mouse, have you?
i did not know you could do that.....how? drag and drop?
Picomp314
2004-09-03, 10:29 PM CDT
wait... you do *THAT* with rpm?!?!?
just
with a package called kernel-2.6.4.324.i386.rpm or something like that
rpm -ivh kernel*.rpm
superbnerd
2004-09-03, 10:42 PM CDT
there is a another way (for bash):
1) type rpm -ivh kernel
2) press the TAB key
3) press return.
this is safer if you have old kernels laying around, and faster then the copy-n-paste method
imdeemvp
2004-09-04, 12:29 AM CDT
wait... you do *THAT* with rpm?!?!?
just
with a package called kernel-2.6.4.324.i386.rpm or something like that
rpm -ivh kernel*.rpm
i highlight the package's name by clicking on rename i use the mouse to go over package's name the way it will highlight..... then i copy and paste it to the terminal that way i have the exact name of package to install
get now? or are you :confused: .............:D
btw i dont that to kernels.
ghaefb
2004-09-04, 01:57 AM CDT
Don't you guys use TAB key for this?
It's like that.
You download a rpm package with very long name/numbers.
You are in the directory where the package is...
you just type: rpm -ivh (first two/three letters of file name) TAB (or TAB twice)
And you got the whole filename... no?
imdeemvp
2004-09-04, 02:12 AM CDT
i will remember that for next time.....tab.....tab....twice....
yes tried and worked..................i learned something new today ;)
superbnerd
2004-09-04, 02:19 AM CDT
wow, how did you get along with out it. now the command line will really seem more efficient.
imdeemvp
2004-09-04, 02:22 AM CDT
i dont have a problem with commands..........i just did not now the shortcuts to the shell !!!
crackers
2004-09-04, 11:47 AM CDT
that is horrible i cant believe you speak of using a mouse for terminal business
hotkeys or NOTHING
Your hotkeys mean nothing to me. And using the mouse to highlight and paste is a well-known, long-supported method of operations within and across X-clipboard aware programs. Example:
$ ps ax | grep java
Select the PID of the runaway Java program (like a hung WLS) by double-clicking on the number itself (selects the "word" - you can also click-drag to select text). Then
$ kill<space>
Note the space. Middle-click and the number is pasted at the end of the command-line. Hit enter and the command executes.
Note that there are quite a few X-clipboard aware applications and this select-and-paste method works extrememly well. And some that support hot-keys for paste (CTRL+V) also utilitize the X-clipboard.
Picomp314
2004-09-05, 12:13 PM CDT
i hate the mouse.
i avoid using it whenever possible
i am so much faster with my hotkeys than someone with a mouse
crackers
2004-09-05, 12:32 PM CDT
I used to be completely hotkey-driven myself, but I'm using and evaluating so many different programs/packages/etc. that it just has become second-nature to use the mouse for lots of things. Certainly the CUA shortcuts (Common User Architecture - standardized by IBM and ripped off by Microsoft and renamed) like Cut/Copy/Paste are there and I use them, but the copy/paste in terminals is to keep from retyping long sequences where even one little typo (like using "kill") will do Bad And Unintended Things... :D
imdeemvp
2004-09-06, 03:32 PM CDT
this hot keys and shortcuts are pretty cool..
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