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djblack
2008-09-30, 08:20 PM CDT
Hello folks. I'm currently downloading the F10 Beta DVD image. I thought I might check here and see what people are saying about the Beta release.....

Much to my amazement, I don't see anyone posting anything about the new Beta! :confused: :eek: I thought for sure there would be someone who would talk about it.

Well....sooo.... what do you all think? I'm anxious to install this thing, but I'd like to know what everyone else thinks.

The only input I have, is that the selection of the Solar artwork is beautiful. Looks very nice.

Demz
2008-09-30, 08:23 PM CDT
give it time an im sure you'll see more people posting about it, ..if you dont like Empathy, put in a word to the dev team about it an why, that way they wont make it Default IM till fedora11 if not further down the road

love to findout what version of xfce is in the beta

wvn
2008-09-30, 11:12 PM CDT
just installed and system monitor says fedora 9.91 rawhide. Is that right?

djblack
2008-09-30, 11:16 PM CDT
just installed and system monitor says fedora 9.91 rawhide. Is that right?
I'm not sure. I'm installing it right now...I'll find out if mine says the same thing.

Demz
2008-09-30, 11:23 PM CDT
just installed and system monitor says fedora 9.91 rawhide. Is that right?
thats what it should say.. 9.92 should be the Preview release i think

OralDeckard
2008-10-01, 06:37 AM CDT
Solar artwork ???

So THATS the price I pay for installing Beta from a boot.iso a day early :O


And now my F10 Beta (9.91, I know) has taken its first bullet.

I installed vmware tools, and it didn't survive vmware-config-tools.pl. It seems there was no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. :O

It asked for permission to create one. I checked and there wasn't one. So I clicked on yeah, go ahead. After that it went into an endless loop.

I killed the VM and restarted it. This time it crashed while trying to start vmware tools and said a reboot was required. Rebooting gets the same thing.

Now THIS is why we call it a Beta. And this is the reason I use VMs. My computer was not down for the count as I reinstalled. I simply deleted the failed copy of the VM and booted a copy I saved from when the installation finished. Now all I have to do is re-update and install vmware tools. Maybe one of the newer updates will fix whatever it is. And in case it doesn't, I will create a restore point before I upgrade vmware tools.

So does anyone know what happened to xorg.conf ?

djblack
2008-10-01, 07:58 AM CDT
I was reading the release notes of this beta, and it mentions the use of the Solar theme.

As it turns out, and that I went back and read the release notes again, the new artwork won't be default until the release...at least that's what it looks like. Here's what I read....

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-September/msg00016.html

First time I guess I assumed the new theme was in the Beta. Oh well.

vallimar
2008-10-01, 09:55 AM CDT
give it time an im sure you'll see more people posting about it, ..if you dont like Empathy, put in a word to the dev team about it an why, that way they wont make it Default IM till fedora11 if not further down the road

love to findout what version of xfce is in the beta
Empathy is the newly blessed IM of Gnome, as of 2.24.
So it's highly unlikely this will be removed as the default.

dashnu
2008-10-01, 10:25 AM CDT
Its better then pidgin anyways.

I cant install the beta. I have been playing with the alpha for a while now. But no go on the beta install.

I get a unhadled exception while installing libidn and have to exit the install.

I am going to try a couple things today as I want to try out the beta pretty bad :D


Any ideas would be nice.

OralDeckard
2008-10-01, 10:51 AM CDT
I don't recall seing any libidn when I installed. Are you sure its not something you can install later, after you have a working installation ? Stringprep is surely not essential in the initial installation.

dashnu
2008-10-01, 10:58 AM CDT
I did do a pretty light' install if you will, removed tons of stuff from the default install.

I will see if I can find anything in the custom install I could remove that would be pulling that as a dep.

Khinxman
2008-10-01, 11:07 AM CDT
I did the install, and the first thing i notice is that the screen is a little um, skewed... and by that i mean the bottom right portion of the screen is off screen (yes i auto adjusted my monitor), it looks like its running at a native resolution of 640x480 (judging by the size) but displaying MUCH larger. i know they removed the resolution and moved it into the kernel, im hoping updating taht will solve the issue, as there is no more xorg.conf as listed above (they dont need it anymore as X11 no longer controls that.

anyone else having this issue?

Khinxman
2008-10-01, 11:36 AM CDT
FYI, you'll need to install the system-config-display RPM from yum to get it to change resolutions if you run into the problem i posted above

OralDeckard
2008-10-01, 01:21 PM CDT
So with xorg.conf gone, vmware-config-tools.pl will hose it again. I checked for a tools update and was told that no new tools were available. Is anyone else running a VM and know how to get tools installed ?
A VM is pretty pathetic without the tools.

OralDeckard
2008-10-01, 07:18 PM CDT
Well I tried vmware-config-tools.pl again, this time saying no when it asked if I wanted to create xorg.conf. It said it was skipping the video section, and went ahead to create the same endless loop as before. The only way out was to kill the VM from the host. On reboot it crashed again.

So at this point there is no vmare tools. If someone finds a way, please let me know.

Demz
2008-10-01, 07:43 PM CDT
Empathy is the newly blessed IM of Gnome, as of 2.24.
So it's highly unlikely this will be removed as the default.
from what i have been reading on the Devel list it may not be default comming the final if people arent satisfied with it

Demz
2008-10-01, 09:02 PM CDT
OralDeckard .. Edit your posts before making another, please

carpetfeller
2008-10-01, 09:07 PM CDT
Hey, it's in beta now, I work to much. I upgraded to f10a on an ibook g3 and the kernel wouldn't boot. I had to use the f9 kernel. I'm using it to do a linux from scratch system. Everything I need it for is working fine (not using a GUI though.) I'm sure there's issues I'm not seeing.