Sound Blaster 5.1

[Orioner]

Cannot configure this to work. No sound. Have tried to configure in KDE and Gnome. No sound when booting. Anybody else have this problem?

[LordMorgul]

Should be supported by the emu10k1 kernel module, is it being loaded? lsmod | grep emu
Does the hardware show up on the PCI bus? lspci | grep Audio

I haven't yet tried F10 on my desktop system with SB Audigy, so I'm not sure about whether its working or not. ;-)

[Demz]

Cannot configure this to work. No sound. Have tried to configure in KDE and Gnome. No sound when booting. Anybody else have this problem?
have you tried removing pulseaudio or disabling it an just using alsa

[Orioner]

Should be supported by the emu10k1 kernel module, is it being loaded? lsmod | grep emu
Does the hardware show up on the PCI bus? lspci | grep Audio

I haven't yet tried F10 on my desktop system with SB Audigy, so I'm not sure about whether its working or not. ;-)
Results of your suggestion:

[Orion@localhost ~]$ lsmod | grep emu
snd_emu10k1_synth 10368 0
snd_emux_synth 34720 1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_seq_virmidi 9096 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_midi_emul 9216 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_emu10k1 128228 4 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_ac97_codec 97600 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_rawmidi 22672 4 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_us b_lib
snd_seq 50064 8 snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,s nd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm 67116 5 snd_emu10k1,snd_usb_audio,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_o ss
snd_seq_device 10388 7 snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_r awmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_timer 22044 3 snd_emu10k1,snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 11272 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 7688 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
emu10k1_gp 6784 0
snd_hwdep 10764 3 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_usb_audio
snd 52196 30 snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_mpu401,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_e mux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_em u10k1,snd_usb_audio,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_lib,snd _rawmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm _oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_time r,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep
gameport 13976 4 ns558,emu10k1_gp
[Orion@localhost ~]$ ls pci | grep Audio
ls: cannot access pci: No such file or directory
[Orion@localhost ~]$ lspci | grep Audio
[Orion@localhost ~]$

[brebs]

Run a decent diagnostic (http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh), as used in #alsa on irc.freenode.net - steps:
wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
bash alsa-info.sh

Will save us asking the next 20 questions.

[Orioner]

Run a decent diagnostic (http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh), as used in #alsa on irc.freenode.net

Will save us asking the next 20 questions.
Thanks Breb - going to that site overwhelmed me with the size and complexity of required actions. Might be a case where the cure is worse than the disease, eh? I'll save you the next 20 questions.

[brebs]

See steps above. However, the script's uploading is currently broken it seems (probably related to the ALSA site being down a couple of days ago), so run it with:
bash alsa-info.sh --no-upload
Then paste /tmp/alsa-info.txt into a pastebin site such as pastebin.ca (http://pastebin.ca/), and state its URL.

[Orioner]

See steps above. However, the script's uploading is currently broken it seems (probably related to the ALSA site being down a couple of days ago), so run it with:
bash alsa-info.sh --no-upload
Then paste /tmp/alsa-info.txt into a pastebin site such as pastebin.ca (http://pastebin.ca/), and state its URL.
[Orion@localhost ~]$ wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-infor.sh
--2008-09-19 15:03:40-- http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-infor.sh
Resolving www.alsa-project.org... 212.20.107.51
Connecting to www.alsa-project.org|212.20.107.51|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2008-09-19 15:03:40 ERROR 404: Not Found.

[Orioner]

Whoops, I see an error.

[brebs]

"info", not "infor" ;)

[Orioner]

"info", not "infor" ;)
Caught it, but same result.

[Orion@localhost ~]$ wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-infor.sh
--2008-09-19 15:03:40-- http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-infor.sh
Resolving www.alsa-project.org... 212.20.107.51
Connecting to www.alsa-project.org|212.20.107.51|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2008-09-19 15:03:40 ERROR 404: Not Found.

[Orioner]

Sorry, didn't notice the second error - infor. This time ok and output:

[Orion@localhost ~]$ wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa.project.org//alsa-info.sh
--2008-09-19 15:16:01-- http://www.alsa.project.org//alsa-info.sh
Resolving www.alsa.project.org... 205.178.145.65
Connecting to www.alsa.project.org|205.178.145.65|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 613 [text/html]
Saving to: `alsa-info.sh'

100%[======================================>] 613 --.-K/s in 0s

2008-09-19 15:16:01 (6.71 MB/s) - `alsa-info.sh' saved [613/613]

I'll continue with more care, thanks

[Orioner]

[Orion@localhost ~]$ bash alsa-info.sh --no-upload
alsa-info.sh: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
alsa-info.sh: line 1: `<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">'
[Orion@localhost

File in /usr/bin and can't send it as too big (15513 characters) - getting a little lost here, how do I upload to pastebin.ca and then?

[brebs]

This is rapidly turning into a comedy of errors.

The wget command isn't downloading the script, although it did work an hour ago. I've rebooted my PC after informing in #alsa, so maybe they're in the process of fixing it.

Anyway, for now, here's a copy of the script (ftp://brebs.me.uk/linux/alsa-info.sh).

[leigh123linux]

Cannot configure this to work. No sound. Have tried to configure in KDE and Gnome. No sound when booting. Anybody else have this problem?


I had a problem with my 5.1 after updating , after rebooting all the sound settings were muted and needed resetting .

[Orioner]

This is rapidly turning into a comedy of errors.

The wget command isn't downloading the script, although it did work an hour ago. I've rebooted my PC after informing in #alsa, so maybe they're in the process of fixing it.

Anyway, for now, here's a copy of the script (ftp://brebs.me.uk/linux/alsa-info.sh).
While I was trying to find a way, I successfully uploaded the file to pastebin.ca and there it sits.

Pastebin.ca 1206232 Now? or Never? (I got the script already) Frightening!!

[brebs]

I got the script already
Wrong - its size is 22627 bytes. What you got was a bit of HTML saying basically "error" :D

If ALSA changes its controls (shown by e.g. amixer) for a soundcard from one version to the next, unfortunately ALSA is not smart enough to convert from the old control list (which in F9 is stored in /etc/alsa/asound.state).

So the easiest thing would be to rename /etc/alsa/asound.state and rerun alsamixer.

Ho hum. Yet another thing making Linux nowhere near as user-friendly as W. :(

[Orioner]

While I was trying to find a way, I successfully uploaded the file to pastebin.ca and there it sits.

Pastebin.ca 1206232 Now? or Never? (I got the script already) Frightening!!
Uploaded script to pastebin. What now? And no /etc/alsa/asound.state in my system, only alsactyl.conf and pulse-default.conf. so can't rename the file.

[brebs]

Post the URL. We're not psychic.

[Orioner]

Post the URL. We're not psychic.
http://pastebin.ca/1206320

Wish I was!!

[brebs]

Arghh. That's the alsa-info script, not the output it produces.

I bet someone, somewhere, is laughing his socks off at this.

[Hlingler]

Arghh. That's the alsa-info script, not the output it produces.

I bet someone, somewhere, is laughing his socks off at this.That would be me. :D

V

[Orioner]

Well laugh, Clown, laugh. brebs, thanks for your efforts but lets shut it down. Obviously I can't perform at your level.

[Hlingler]

I'm sorry if I offended you. I honestly didn't mean to. But it was amusing....

Seriously, don't get discouraged, just keep plugging away, I'm sure that you'll be able to figure something out with brebs' help.

V

[leigh123linux]

It might help if you update alsa-utils

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=63493



* Thu Sep 18 2008 Jaroslav Kysela <jkysela@redhat.com> 1.0.18-3.rc3
- fixed alsa-info.sh link

* Thu Sep 18 2008 Jaroslav Kysela <jkysela@redhat.com> 1.0.18-2.rc3
- fixed /lib/alsa/init path for x86_64 (was /lib64/alsa/init)
- added /etc/alsa/asound.state -> /etc/asound.state shift to %post section
- fix udev rules (ommited /dev/ prefix for the alsactl utility)
- added --ignore option for alsactl (added also to upstream)

* Thu Sep 11 2008 Jaroslav Kysela <jkysela@redhat.com> 1.0.18-1.rc3
- updated to 1.0.18rc3
- updated alsa-info.sh script to 0.4.51
- removed alsacard utility
- removed salsa utility
- changed alsaunmute to use 'alsactl init' now
- updated ALSA udevd rules to use alsactl
- moved /etc/alsa/asound.state back to /etc/asound.state



P.S alsa-info.sh is part of alsa-utils so you don't need to download it .

[LordMorgul]

Orioner, technical forums tend to produce this comedy of miscommunication constantly... its just nature of the beast, its not easy to get help this way but you were doing fine. Run the script, pastebin the output, get your sound fixed.

[Orioner]

It might help if you update alsa-utils

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=63493






P.S alsa-info.sh is part of alsa-utils so you don't need to download it .



Thanks, yum tells me alsa-utils not marked for update.

[leigh123linux]

Thanks, yum tells me alsa-utils not marked for update.

You will have to fetch the package as it hasn't been released yet ! i.e it isn't available through yum yet . ( are you sure you have enough basic knowledge to use rawhide ? )


32 bit

su
wget http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/alsa-utils/1.0.18/3.rc3.fc10/i386/alsa-utils-1.0.18-3.rc3.fc10.i386.rpm
rpm -Uvh alsa-utils-1.0.18-3.rc3.fc10.i386.rpm
reboot


64 bit

su
wget http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/alsa-utils/1.0.18/3.rc3.fc10/x86_64/alsa-utils-1.0.18-3.rc3.fc10.x86_64.rpm
rpm -Uvh alsa-utils-1.0.18-3.rc3.fc10.x86_64.rpm
reboot

[Orioner]

You will have to fetch the package as it hasn't been released yet ! i.e it isn't available through yum yet . ( are you sure you have enough basic knowledge to use rawhide ? )


32 bit

su
wget http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/alsa-utils/1.0.18/3.rc3.fc10/i386/alsa-utils-1.0.18-3.rc3.fc10.i386.rpm
rpm -Uvh alsa-utils-1.0.18-3.rc3.fc10.i386.rpm
reboot


64 bit

su
wget http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/alsa-utils/1.0.18/3.rc3.fc10/x86_64/alsa-utils-1.0.18-3.rc3.fc10.x86_64.rpm
rpm -Uvh alsa-utils-1.0.18-3.rc3.fc10.x86_64.rpm
reboot
Thank you, downloaded and installed ok. No change. Well, in retrospect, I should have taken the advice to stay with Fed9 instead of installing Rawhide - Fed 10. Current difficulty with sound however is the only major problem I've had and without the repos, I can't run wmv's or videos without paying for the codecs so maybe my experience will inform others to wait before leaping into Fed 10 until it is finished and ready for all. It's like touching your tongue to a steel pole in winter!! But the experience has been instructive!

[Orioner]

I'm sorry if I offended you. I honestly didn't mean to. But it was amusing....

Seriously, don't get discouraged, just keep plugging away, I'm sure that you'll be able to figure something out with brebs' help.

V
OK - moving on.

[Orioner]

Orioner, technical forums tend to produce this comedy of miscommunication constantly... its just nature of the beast, its not easy to get help this way but you were doing fine. Run the script, pastebin the output, get your sound fixed.


I apparently uploaded the script to pastebin earlier. On the premise given in the Guidelines that "no question is too stupid" I admit that I don't know how to run the script here - what command to employ - and looking at the script is rather daunting to make guesses. So M'Lord, tell me what to do, please. :)

[brebs]

Run this:

sh alsa-info.sh

The "sh" bit at the start tells your login shell to execute the script as a shell script.

[Orioner]

Here's the outcome, non-root and root. Now what?



[Orion@localhost ~]$ sh alsa-info.sh
alsa-info.sh: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
alsa-info.sh: line 1: `<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">'
[Orion@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost Orion]# sh alsa-info.sh
alsa-info.sh: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
alsa-info.sh: line 1: `<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">'
[root@localhost Orion]#

[brebs]

That's not a script!

$ rm alsa-info.sh
$ wget ftp://brebs.me.uk/linux/alsa-info.sh
...
==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD /linux ... done.
==> SIZE alsa-info.sh ... 22627
==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR alsa-info.sh ... done.
Length: 22627 (22K)

100%[======================================>] 22,627 133K/s in 0.2s

2008-09-21 22:58:05 (133 KB/s) - `alsa-info.sh' saved [22627]

$ sh alsa-info.sh
It's pointless to run the script until you see "alsa-info.sh saved [22627]", because 22627 is the correct filesize.

[Orioner]

That's not a script!

$ rm alsa-info.sh
$ wget ftp://brebs.me.uk/linux/alsa-info.sh
...
==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD /linux ... done.
==> SIZE alsa-info.sh ... 22627
==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR alsa-info.sh ... done.
Length: 22627 (22K)

100%[======================================>] 22,627 133K/s in 0.2s

2008-09-21 22:58:05 (133 KB/s) - `alsa-info.sh' saved [22627]

$ sh alsa-info.sh
It's pointless to run the script until you see "alsa-info.sh saved [22627]", because 22627 is the correct filesize.
OK tnx, here's result:

[Orion@localhost ~]$ sh alsa-info.sh
ALSA Information Script v 0.4.51
--------------------------------

This script will collect information about your ALSA installation and sound related hardware, to help diagnose your problem.

By default, the collected information will be AUTOMATICALLY uploaded to a www.alsa-project.org site.
If you do not wish for this to occur, run the script with the --no-upload argument

Do you want to run this script? [y/n] : y
ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
Done!



An error occured while contacting the www.alsa-project.org. Your information was NOT automatically uploaded.

Your ALSA information can be seen by looking in /tmp/alsa-info.txt

[Orion@localhost ~]$

[LordMorgul]

Your ALSA information can be seen by looking in /tmp/alsa-info.txt

Please post that file to the forum (best to attach it to a post rather than copy/paste).

[Orioner]

Please post that file to the forum (best to attach it to a post rather than copy/paste).
Hope this is what you want, if not, it's cut and paste. Tnx



file:///tmp/alsainfo

[Demz]

you didnt attach the file

[Orioner]

you didnt attach the file

Attempting to forward alsa-info.txt which has been uploaded.

[brebs]

Looks like your default output ("card 0") is the motherboard's audio. See ALSA wiki (http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards).

[Orioner]

Looks like your default output ("card 0") is the motherboard's audio. See ALSA wiki (http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards).
Thanks, I've been wiki-bound with it for awhile. The Beta release for Fed10 will be Sept 30th. I'll wait till then as nothing I can see so far re motherboard audio and Alsa is clear, to me at least. Tns again for your help and patience.

[Orioner]

Thanks to all who took the time and patience to help me with this. This post should end the problem for me and for others who might have made the mistakes I did, here's what the solution entailed. First I got out of Rawhide Fed 10, re-installed Fed 9 and had the same problem. Sound Blaster card was a legacy card so I bought the current Sound Blaster Card. Installed, it worked perfectly in everything, Skype, Amsn, Fed 9 and all sound programs, videos, etc.

More than one way to skin a cat!! Thanks again.