I doubt this is alpha more like a beta or almost a release I should say...

[hceylan]

Hey,

I am amazed with the stability of the Fedora 10 Alpha. Other then Evolution crashing couple of time, I use anything that I use in production environment incl. Eclipse, GCC, rpmdev-tools, gnome, openoffice, compiz & evolution.

So I am amazed. Good work from Fedora Team congratulations....

And, yes, I already dumped F9 and using F 10.... Luv it.

I have couple of advices for those that like leaving on the edge like me.

1) If you would like to use plymouths beatiful boot up screen, add vga=792 to your kernel params in grub.conf right after rhgb quite.

2) To get rid of nasty plymouth usage infos on service failures,
vi into /etc/init.d/functions,
find the failure() funtion
remark the line with '#'
[ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ] && /usr/bin/rhgb-client --details=yes
to
#[ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ] && /usr/bin/rhgb-client --details=yes

3) Yo do not have to use 2.6.27 series kernel to be able to use F 10 Alpha. If nvidia installation problems holding you from using F 10.

what you need to do is:
Download F 9 kernel, kernel-devel and kernel-headers.
Install (!!!Not update as always with the kernels) with --force to allow downgrading
Boot with the 2.6.26 series kernel and let the dkms install your nvidia kernel module.

Now,
One last tiny thing I want to get rid of, NetworkManager flooding the console with info messages. I added " 2>&1 > /dev/null" every place I see "NetworkManager" in /etc/init.d/NetworkManager with no luck

If anyone has a clue on that I would like to hear.

Enjoy,
Hasan Ceylan

[stevea]

Thanks for the note Hasan. I've been fairly unhappy with F9, - installed on 3 systems, but I normally dual-boot to F8. I think I'll skip "the F9 experience" and go directly to F10.

You might want to use "lsof" to see what file descriptors are opened by NetworkManager. It's fairly likely that" 2>&1 > /dev/null" doesn't solve the problem. "nm-tool" might help. Sadly the Gnomic developers give scant documentation on such matters.

NetworkManager is mostly useful for mobile/wifi connections and setting up supplicant automatically. If it's a server ((I assume it is if you're viewing the console)) I'd dump NetworkManager and use the system-config-network scripted scheme.

[hceylan]

Thanks for the credit and extra info onNetworkManager stevea,

Some updates
1) I found out that X does not like the kernel with the parameter vga=792, instead we should use vga=0x318
2) According to Redhat Packager it turns out to be a problem in plymouth and suppossedly fixed on koji waiting to be pushed to rawhide

And, no this is my laptop. I am aware with NetworkManager structure and I am highly dependent on it. just cannot dump it( vpn, wireless and heavy LAN roaming...)

I am taking about the time console appears in between the plymouth ceases and X kick in.

I am a very enthusiastic Linux (Or Fedora I should ), trying to persuade everyone I know to switch from *the* guy's OS to Linux. The first critics I receive the text messages here and there. They just want to see plain graphical interfaces.

I had totally forgetten about lsof, I'll try that, thx for the tip...

Hasan

[RedFedora]

I tried the F10 alpha and found it a bit slow and an error popped up as soon as I logged in to KDE. However, once that went away, everything seemed to work as expected. It wasn't a long test run, but F10 so far looks a lot like F9 with updated packages. It's nice to see KDE 4.1 being released.