f10 through yum

[oblufire]

This might be a dumb question but I just wanted to ask it.

When f10 comes out would it be possible to do an f10 upgrade from f9 through yum? or something like it? maybe an update tar or something that would start the upgrade for the basics and then once it was installed the system can restart and gain internet connection which in turn would download and install the rest.

I know cd or dvd is better but on my laptop my cd drive just fried and well my external cd drive does not go active until my system is up and running .

[scottro]

Yes it can be done, though it's not advised. There's a faq on it somewhere on the Fedora site. There is also that preupdate or preupgrade thing now, which is apparently good when it works.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq

(About the third hit after googling for upgrade fedora through yum)

[oblufire]

ok i got it and the alpha one is rawhide. Is that F10?

Also can i do the pre-upgrade but turn it into a second install where i keep f9 and install f10 alongside it?

[oblufire]

the reason I ask is because I would like to join in the testing but I only have one pc and would like to keep a working system on it.

[bingoUV]

the reason I ask is because I would like to join in the testing but I only have one pc and would like to keep a working system on it.

This is why you should not use the yum method of upgrading to F10 Alpha. Use the live media from http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease.

[oblufire]

well i use a laptop and my cd is fried. I have an external but getting my pc to boot from a usb cd player i do not know how to set up.

[oblufire]

problem with the preupgrade software,maybe.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 198, in on_assistant_apply
self._do_main()
File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 206, in _do_main
self.main_preupgrade()
File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 349, in main_preupgrade
self.pu.retrieve_treeinfo()
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line 395, in retrieve_treeinfo
self.instimage = cp.get('stage2', 'instimage')
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/ConfigParser.py", line 520, in get
raise NoOptionError(option, section)
ConfigParser.NoOptionError: No option 'instimage' in section: 'stage2'

[oblufire]

I am still having the dependency problems with preupgrade. How can I resolve those?

[scottro]

oblufile, I'm not sure about the error issue. As for getting it to boot from CD, isn't there an option in BIOS to boot from external device? (There isn't always, but most laptops do seem to have that.)

[oblufire]

not that I know of. I know in windows you have to edit the init file and the registry very hard and very taxing. in linux i have no clue. my bios does not have the usb boot option

[scottro]

The only other thing I can think of is to google with the laptop's model and the phrase boot from USB. I'm sorry I can't be of more help. There might be an option somewhere that is well hiddent.

[oblufire]

thankyou for the advice i will look it up

[oblufire]

just my luck. i got two pages and they all say they have done it with turbo linux. i will keep searching. If anyone can help please feel free to send me a message.

[scottro]

Do they go into detail about what they changed on the laptop? In case I wasn't clear, I meant take the laptop model, put it into google with something like bios boot usb. Distro shouldn't make a difference at that point, you're just talking about booting the hardware from an external drive.

[oblufire]

No you were clear. They were not. Those web posts just said we did it. That is one of the reasons why I love this board. Everyone not only says they did it but how. That is why When I get an answer even if I find it on my own I post it. Funny thing is I found many for windows but they involve exe files and changing the whole bios. Flash bois and stuff.

Is there a way to access the bios init file through linux and maybe someone can paste a copy of theirs where it shows that they have usb set up?

[oblufire]

I am trying a re-install of the packages that have dep problems. I will let you know how it goes.

[oblufire]

ok even with the re-installs i can not get past the dep issues. I will wait a couple of weeks and then see if the deps can be resolved.

[potorange]

problem with the preupgrade software,maybe.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 198, in on_assistant_apply
self._do_main()
File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 206, in _do_main
self.main_preupgrade()
File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 349, in main_preupgrade
self.pu.retrieve_treeinfo()
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line 395, in retrieve_treeinfo
self.instimage = cp.get('stage2', 'instimage')
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/ConfigParser.py", line 520, in get
raise NoOptionError(option, section)
ConfigParser.NoOptionError: No option 'instimage' in section: 'stage2'


the file http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/.treeinfo is missing a instimage= entry in the [stage2] section on which preuprage-0.9.3 relies.
Might be resolved in the upcoming preupgrade-0.9.8 (see http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=6045)

Hope this helps

[oblufire]

i went to the koji site but can't seem to find a place to download the new version of preupgrade. when I use Yum i get ver 9.3 only.

[oblufire]

wait i found the download part in koji site.

[Demz]

oblufire Please Dont Double Post.. Edit your Previous one

[oblufire]

Sorry about that. I will remember to edit the previous post.

but I am back to square one the koji download wont install without anaconda yum plugin. is there a way I can add koji to my yum repository?

[Demz]

not really no... all you can do is test packages from there

[oblufire]

well I will keep trying then. Thank you. If I find anyway to move forward I will be sure to post. Thankyou all again. Let me know if something new pops up.

[mikelw67]

did a anaconda-yum rpm searh on google linked to pbone fc10 version.. did a search for anaconda-yum on there found a fc9 version to resolve dep error for the preupgrade upgrade.. started to run new preupgrade, contains a new download (kernal images step) appears to be working correctly so far.

[oblufire]

i did the anaconda-yum plugin but i still get some .so missling files i will put a small piece up. Though the last part the meta part got farther this time. :)


vlc-core-0.8.6i-2.lvn9.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
--> Missing Dependency: libraw1394.so.8 is needed by package vlc-core-0.8.6i-2.lvn9.i386 (installed)
transcode-1.0.5-2.lvn9.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
--> Missing Dependency: libWand.so.10 is needed by package transcode-1.0.5-2.lvn9.i386 (installed)
transcode-1.0.5-2.lvn9.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
--> Missing Dependency: libMagick.so.10 is needed by package transcode-1.0.5-2.lvn9.i386 (installed)
kino-1.3.0-1.lvn9.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
--> Missing Dependency: libraw1394.so.8 is needed by package kino-1.3.0-1.lvn9.i386 (installed)
xmms-mp3-1.2.10-5.lvn6.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
--> Missing Dependency: xmms-libs = 1:1.2.10 is needed by package xmms-mp3-1.2.10-5.lvn6.i386 (installed)
vlc-core-0.8.6i-2.lvn9.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
--> Missing Dependency: libgnutls.so.13 is needed by package vlc-core-0.8.6i-2.lvn9.i386 (installed)
vlc-core-0.8.6i-2.lvn9.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
--> Missing Dependency: libgnutls.so.13(GNUTLS_1_3) is needed by package vlc-core-0.8.6i-2.lvn9.i386 (installed)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 198, in on_assistant_apply
self._do_main()
File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 206, in _do_main
self.main_preupgrade()
File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", line 349, in main_preupgrade
self.pu.retrieve_treeinfo()
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line 395, in retrieve_treeinfo
self.instimage = cp.get('stage2', 'instimage')
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/ConfigParser.py", line 520, in get
raise NoOptionError(option, section)
ConfigParser.NoOptionError: No option 'instimage' in section: 'stage2'

[Demz]

ok i think i know what the problem is or could be.. what Livna repo have you got enabled?..you should have livna Development enabled only an disable the rest

[oblufire]

ok I will try that. But do I go to each repo and disable or can i do it with a simple command?

[Demz]

just go into System > Administration > Software Sources an Disable the Main Livna repo an enable the development one

[oblufire]

i tried that. Yet I still got the missing dependency xmms-libs and a few others. Then I tried a manual install of it and got a few other errors trying to install it. I do not want to do a side step because I do not want to break what I got right now. I do want to get this preupgrade working because it is the only option for this laptop. unless someone can send me a script that will activate the USB at boot for my pc. But that is another topic. Is there anyway to install a for mentioned dependencies or maybe an rpm that will install the new preupgrade. like I said earlier the preupgrade I keep getting through yum is 9.3. Any help will be great. Thank you all.

[oblufire]

these are still the problem. And I have tried your way. Maybe there is a way I can get these and compile them? or somehow add the files or build the so files that are needed?
Can someone give me a step by step on how to get these since I can not get them through yum?

libWand.so.10 is needed by package transcode-1.0.5-2.lvn9.i386
xmms-libs = 1:1.2.10 is needed by package xmms-mp3-1.2.10-5.lvn6.i386
libgnutls.so.13(GNUTLS_1_3) is needed by package vlc-core-0.8.6i-2.lvn9.i386
libraw1394.so.8 is needed by package kino-1.3.0-1.lvn9.i386
libraw1394.so.8 is needed by package vlc-core-0.8.6i-2.lvn9.i386
libgnutls.so.13 is needed by package vlc-core-0.8.6i-2.lvn9.i386
libMagick.so.10 is needed by package transcode-1.0.5-2.lvn9.i386

[Demz]

have you searched through http://rpmfind.net/ ?

by rights you should have those in your repo

do this for meyum repolist

[oblufire]

I got the beta to download but selinux didnt install. so i can not boot the beta version. what should I do? ALpha didn't work in preupgrade. But beta did. I dont know why.

[sergiomb]

yum --enablerepo=rawhide install anaconda-yum-plugins
rpm -Uvh preupgrade-0.9.9-1.fc9

[Demz]

I got the beta to download but selinux didnt install. so i can not boot the beta version. what should I do? ALpha didn't work in preupgrade. But beta did. I dont know why.

your best to get the Preview , dont worry bout alpha or beta