F7 to F8 upgrade real slow on checking dependencies

[pwalden]

I have older laptop HP OB6000 on F&, that I am trying to upgrade to F8.

It is so old that the DVD-ROM drive will not recognize my DVD+R of the F8 iso, so I have to install via http from another system with the F8 iso mounted.

Everything seems OK, but I am into 4-5 hours on the "checking dependencies in packages selected for installation...". The progress bar has been moving ahead, but it is logarithmically approaching the end of the bar. Right now it is just approaching the last "." in the "..." message.

Is this normal?

[Hlingler]

I have older laptop HP OB6000 on F&, that I am trying to upgrade to F8.

It is so old that the DVD-ROM drive will not recognize my DVD+R of the F8 iso, so I have to install via http from another system with the F8 iso mounted.

Everything seems OK, but I am into 4-5 hours on the "checking dependencies in packages selected for installation...". The progress bar has been moving ahead, but it is logarithmically approaching the end of the bar. Right now it is just approaching the last "." in the "..." message.

Is this normal?Yes, especially given the age of the machine that you report ! YUM has a whole OS full of packages and dependencies to sort through. I wouldn't be surprised if it took much longer still. It all depends mainly on how much stuff is installed, and the CPU speed.

There are of course other options which may be faster in the long run, but I assume that you already know that....

V

[pwalden]

Thanks for the quick response. I let it keep chugging along.

Phil

[pwalden]

Checking in at 12 hours.

Seems to be doing something different. The progress is just a sliver off full. Every so often the disk spins up and the disk activity light goes solid on for about 60 seconds or so.

[Hlingler]

I don't even want to tell you how long it took YUM to churn through the upgrade process here (F7 => F8). Of course, I have so much software installed that it's borderline absurd. And that's after culling a lot of stuff I don't want/need.

But OK, here it is: Athlon 3500+ @ 2.2 GHz: 36 hours.

V

[pwalden]

I don't think I am using YUM, am I?

I mounted the F8 DVD iso on a separate server and linked it to the apache server. I then booted the laptop with the F8 rescue CD, selected upgrade and install from http server. Does that use YUM?

[Hlingler]

To the best of my knowledge and belief: yes, an upgrade (as opposed to a "fresh" install) uses YUM to determine what packages need upgraded and to check all the various inter-dependencies thereof, whether you are doing this "live" and on-line (as I did), or via some static medium such as a CD/DVD (however you managed to mount it).

I tend to think of an "upgrade" as basically a mass YUM update of everything to the newer release. You are not re-installing the OS, nor wiping the disk and re-formatting it, etc., etc. You are effectively updating/upgrading the OS in-place, and all existing packages must be checked against the new versions and their dependencies.

Hope that clarifies things. If that is not what you intended to do when you began the "upgrade", well then....

V

[pwalden]

We I'm at 60+ hours and no change.

I think I'll abort it. I did not seem to have thi sproblem doing an upgrade from F6 to F7.

Maybe I'll try the F9, since they went back to providing CD as well as DVD's.

[Hlingler]

We I'm at 60+ hours and no change.

I think I'll abort it. I did not seem to have thi sproblem doing an upgrade from F6 to F7.

Maybe I'll try the F9, since they went back to providing CD as well as DVD's.Wow. I mean: WOW ! Who knows why? If you had any way of determining that it was still running and/or doing anything useful, or how much longer it would take, it might be different, but....

Upgrades are not recommended, not by me either even though I have done several. FWIW, the F7 => F8 upgrade was very painful for me too, although I eventually pushed it through with various parlor tricks. Painful enough that I decided on fresh installs for the other two boxes.

Good Luck,
V

[pwalden]

It may be premature to announce mission success, but I am trying the F9 multiple CD upgrade. It breezed right by the checking dependencies into the installation process. I am currently at 350 out of 900 packages completed.

I wonder what the F8 upgrade via http was trying to do?

I hope Fedora fixes the http upgrade or continues to provide multiple CDs.

[pwalden]

Final posting here. The F7 to F9 upgrade using the CD set was successful. In fact it was much easier and faster than my prior F6 to F7 upgrade.

Hlingler, thanks for your help and support.