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RonPolley
4th July 2008, 06:16 PM
I use several distro's for different purposes,I always keep fedora as my main system for the reliability and security it gives me with Gnome as my environment. I have used KDE with other distro's and at first I wasn't impressed with F9 KDE,after giving it a fair chance to get used to it I find myself using it over all my other systems. The more I learn about it I see how easy to use its really designed to be. :D

leigh123linux
5th July 2008, 12:14 PM
I use several distro's for different purposes,I always keep fedora as my main system for the reliability and security it gives me with Gnome as my environment. I have used KDE with other distro's and at first I wasn't impressed with F9 KDE,after giving it a fair chance to get used to it I find myself using it over all my other systems. The more I learn about it I see how easy to use its really designed to be. :D


What have you been smoking? and can I have some :cool:

Demz
5th July 2008, 12:38 PM

What have you been smoking? and can I have some :cool:
hope your gonna share what he gives you, coz i wouldn't mind some myself :D

cloneu2
5th July 2008, 04:58 PM
hope your gonna share what he gives you, coz i wouldn't mind some myself :D

I'll smoke anything that makes KDE 4 look good! :confused:

RonPolley
5th July 2008, 05:39 PM
I think KDE4 is the beginning of some very good things to come,I have KDE on one drive and Gnome on another.

Demz
6th July 2008, 03:04 AM
I'll smoke anything that makes KDE 4 look good! :confused:thats true,, KDE4 does not look good at all, least the Gnopme Devs havent rushed a Gnome3 release :)

RonPolley
7th July 2008, 03:00 AM
Take out the standard wall paper,add a good one, activate the slide show widget with your favorite pix and there you have it. It's all uphill from there.

voycieck
7th July 2008, 07:08 AM
KDE 4 looks good. Just doesn't seem to work.

RonPolley
8th July 2008, 04:00 AM
I have yet to use any KDE that is as stable as Gnome , Thats probably why Red Hat chose Gnome as its default environment way back when. KDE offers more toys and eye candy in my opinion at the cost of dependability. With that said I still think KDE is off to a very good start on this release. I wish I could say the same about XFCE, which for me and my system doesn't seem to run well on F9 yet. So here is my summary of F9....
Gnome, appears flawless on this system as did F6,F7, and F8.
KDE, only a few minor bugs so far
XFCE, lots of bugs so far,( with a yum groupinstall XFCE , xfce issues went away)
XFCE very fast and stable now.must have been my install. :D
I am just an end user with an end users opinion,I like F9 KDE.

voycieck
8th July 2008, 07:56 PM
I liked KDE since Red Hat 7.2 so I'm used to it. Recently I run in trouble with it and had to use Gnome. It run trouble free on Fedora 8. I'm thinking about ditching KDE on my desktop. Here comes my laptop.
I have WindowsXP and PCLinuxOS2007 on it. On PCLinuxOS KDE runs flawless. Problem is, I can not install PCLinuxOS with RAID set-up on my PC. There is some partition problem. LVM does not do either.

fnmblot
8th July 2008, 08:08 PM
I totally love KDE, but I really think they rushed the 4.0 release. I believe they should have waited until 4.1's progress to even release 4.0. I must also say, I am not a fan of gnome and programming in GTK is a nightmare compared to Qt.

muep
8th July 2008, 08:14 PM
While I have always liked both KDE and Gnome, I have mostly kept using Gnome. Now that Fedora 9 is offering KDE, I find that I like it quite much, even though it is far from perfect. I think it was the right decision by Fedora KDE SIG to package KDE 4 as the default KDE version.

Maybe not having a strong KDE user background makes it easier for me to discover all the cool things about KDE 4, while an experienced KDE 3 user will keep getting frustrated when he can't find the things he liked in KDE 3. However, I am sure that those users are not alone, and there will be a lot of effort to bring all the important KDE 3 features to KDE 4. Then the migration from KDE 3 will probably become easier.

While I used to have only Gnome on my computers, I am now running F9 with KDE on both the laptop and the desktop. I still keep getting a few graphical glitches, but apart from that, I don't experience any too annoying bugs. T

he desktop icon implementation in KDE 4.0 is terrible, but I have solved the problem just by disabling the icons altogether. I can use the Dolphin file manager just as well to access the desktop directory. When KDE 4.1 will provide the first desktop icon implementation that I can think about being actually well thought out, in any desktop environment, I'll probably start using desktop icons again.

voycieck
8th July 2008, 08:30 PM
I too always had both Gnome and KDE. To me it was annoying switching to Gnome and have two trash cans. This problem is only in Fedora. SUSE and Mandriva didn't have it.

juanfgs
8th July 2008, 08:32 PM
They did the wrong thing labeling it as 4.0, after all the most important part that they were releasing was the SDK, all the other apps are more a proof of concept (and ports of older apps to Qt4). However I like the way KDE4 its going, specially plasma which is a really good concept and they are implementing it nicely (Folderview seems so cool).

However I'm a GNOME user, but I'm getting jealous, I wish we had something like Plasma in GNOME :rolleyes: .

soggyoreo
8th July 2008, 08:34 PM
KDE 4 looks good. Just doesn't seem to work.

Cosign

KDE4 just hasnt got all the bugs worked out yet.

voycieck
8th July 2008, 08:42 PM
And again KDE in Fedora. For some reason Firefox takes 15-20 seconds to open.

RonPolley
10th July 2008, 03:34 AM
Well its good to see that we share the same problems , Slow Firefox and Icon rendering. I to like the plasma. Maybe an update/fix will come soon.

Demz
10th July 2008, 03:48 AM
And again KDE in Fedora. For some reason Firefox takes 15-20 seconds to open.
iv'e also noticed its slow in Gnome to, but it also could be related to Extensions that slows it down to

Wayne
10th July 2008, 04:35 AM
iv'e also noticed its slow in Gnome to, but it also could be related to Extensions that slows it down to

It's probably due to all the language extensions that the Fedora devs think we need, every one under the sun! Even if you remove them, they come back with an update... I keep forgetting I also have Swiftfox on this box :)

Wayne

Demz
10th July 2008, 05:41 AM
It's probably due to all the language extensions that the Fedora devs think we need, every one under the sun! Even if you remove them, they come back with an update... I keep forgetting I also have Swiftfox on this box :)

Wayne
could be all the language packs that slows it down.. i should install swiftfox 3, but at times firefox3 does startup fast,, other times can be slow

Wayne
10th July 2008, 05:44 AM
The Swiftfox version I have here is not stable 3. It's 3.0.1pre, can't say I have any issues with it though.

Edit: Just this minute updated it to 3.0.2.pre :D

Wayne

Demz
10th July 2008, 05:53 AM
The Swiftfox version I have here is not stable 3. It's 3.0.1pre, can't say I have any issues with it though.

Edit: Just this minute updated it to 3.0.2.pre :D

Wayne
3.0.2 out now.. may wanna update dude

Wayne
10th July 2008, 05:54 AM
3.0.2 out now.. may wanna update dude

Hey Greg, check my edit :) After posting I checked for updates and applied it already :p

Wayne

Demz
10th July 2008, 06:06 AM
Hey Greg, check my edit :) After posting I checked for updates and applied it already :p

Wayne
wonder why there gone to 3.0.2? unless there gonna use the odd numbered ones for testing purposes an use the even numbered ones for the final ..

voycieck
10th July 2008, 03:45 PM
I have Firefox on laptop that is slower and runs PCLinuxOS and Firefox opens instantly. KDE seems to work much better. In Firefox I use Polish lang. extension all the time.

voycieck
14th July 2008, 04:09 AM
I have yet to use any KDE that is as stable as Gnome , Thats probably why Red Hat chose Gnome as its default environment way back when. KDE offers more toys and eye candy in my opinion at the cost of dependability. With that said I still think KDE is off to a very good start on this release. I wish I could say the same about XFCE, which for me and my system doesn't seem to run well on F9 yet. So here is my summary of F9....
Gnome, appears flawless on this system as did F6,F7, and F8.
KDE, only a few minor bugs so far
XFCE, lots of bugs so far,( with a yum groupinstall XFCE , xfce issues went away)
XFCE very fast and stable now.must have been my install. :D
I am just an end user with an end users opinion,I like F9 KDE.
Now I think there is no problem with KDE. Few days ago I installed openSUSE 11 and KDE is working fine. Well, maybe there is some problem with integration KDE into Fedora. And, I think, there is update problem. Fedora 8 was getting better with new updates (so was KDE) and after number of updates started to get worse. I'm not programmer wizard, just a user, and maybe I'm doing something wrong. :confused: