Hmmm...someone else has fedoraforum.com

[rkl]

I presume you folks at fedoraforum.org have noticed that a "rival" Fedora forum site at http://fedorachat.org/ actually has the fedoraforum.com domain and it redirects to their Fedora Chat site...

The WHOIS details suggest that Fedora Chat were actually around first and registered fedoraforum.com about 2 months before you registered fedoraforum.org - I think if I was in the situation where I couldn't get a .com domain, I'd seriously think about renaming the site and domain. I'm just a bit surprised that you went ahead with fedoraforum.org when the .com was already redirecting to a competing site.

P.S. Someone should tell the Fedora Chat folks that the word "unofficial" doesn't have a hyphen in it :)

[ilja]

hmmm, I don't think that fedoraforum is a trademark. And :
FedoraForum.org Statistics
Threads: 12,439, Posts: 69,703, Members: 4,987

FedoraChat:
Our users have posted a total of 646 articles
We have 231 registered users

So the domain isn't the most important thing, I think.

[foolish]

Frankly, FedoraChat isn't competition, it's just a mild annoyance. We have welcomed them to merge with us, as duplication of effort is silly. But they declined our offers so far.

[ghaefb]

What that? there is a fedorachat?
I think that's silly.. anyways they don't stand a chance :D

[ewdi]

we are keeping this site non-profit as like any other open source project uses .org, so we DO prefer .org instead of .com since we are an organization instead of a commercial company

[Ug]

The admin is an arrogant #@!£?!. I've tried talking to him, but he just isn't interested in any sort of a merge. I think he's scared of losing control to a degree, but he's certainly lost any bargaining power he may have once had for any merger.

I'm still open to merge with him, but it wouldn't be anywhere near as major as when we merged the Fedora FAQ forum into us.

[foolish]

Which is the smartest thing we've done so far IMO. Boy are we great or what?

[sailor]

all you need to do is go through the posts...it is not doing that well, I saw lots of questions but few answers...

[crackers]

Geez - that's pretty low traffic compared to here! Looks like a real snoozer...

[WebWind]

www.fedoraforum.com :eek: What a ***** is that? :confused:

This forum is great! :)

[tamilian]

The Fedora Forum will improve before the next budget!

[ilja]

www.fedoraforum.com :eek: What a ***** is that? :confused:

This forum is great! :)
I don't think it is a good attitude. We are all the Fedora-Community. One Fedora community. Ok, it is much more comfortable to have all the power over only one url, but if someone wants to have his own hideout, we should be the last to call him or his project names.
Life would be a boring place if there were no alternatives.

[Thoreau]

Life would be a boring place if there were no alternatives.

too many choices though is not so great either.

[ilja]

too many choices though is not so great either.
ok, let's use Windows :p There you have no choice at all :D

[Ug]

To be honest though - when it comes to how many forums Fedora needs for support. Choice really isn't a good thing. A concentration of forum resources in one place is the best bet, users shouldn't have to go around asking the same question on multiple forums.

[ilja]

yes a concentration is a nice thing to have, but if someone doesn't want to be a part of a great community, it is not a crime. Where the users gets a good answer is the place where he stays and not the forum which is bigger, faster or has a better design.

[Ug]

Yes it is fine for him to stay away. But at the end of the day its better for thecommunity at large when theres a concentration of resources, and that concentration will always attract the user back again. As we see here.

[Thoreau]

ok, let's use Windows :p There you have no choice at all :D
Ooh, you said a dirty word :p

[ilja]

Ooh, you said a dirty word :p
Do I have to wash my mouth with soap-water? :D

[TameLion]

Nah, we'll let you off with 10 hail Marys and the linux prayer.

"Our Fedora, which art fantastic..."

[crackers]

Art? I don't know anyone named Art!

[WebWind]

I don't think it is a good attitude. We are all the Fedora-Community. One Fedora community. Ok, it is much more comfortable to have all the power over only one url, but if someone wants to have his own hideout, we should be the last to call him or his project names. Life would be a boring place if there were no alternatives.

Sorry, if you understand it in a bad way. I think that too much choices degradate quality. Yes, it is confortable to have all power in one url. :)

[cathal]

yes a concentration is a nice thing to have, but if someone doesn't want to be a part of a great community, it is not a crime. Where the users gets a good answer is the place where he stays and not the forum which is bigger, faster or has a better design.

May be bigger, may be a better design but phpbb is much faster than vBulletin im afraid...

[ewdi]

i dont know about faster, i can make any web application run fast, remember speed not only depends on application but also servers, we use load balancing and etc, so i dotn think we will lose in speed with a phpbb hosted in mass hosting (we only have 3 website on this servers)

[crackers]

"Faster" is relative - it won't matter if the server can spit out a page 10ms faster if the user is on a dial-up line. And the only way you can tell if something is faster at such a fine-grain is to use a profiler. I believe the smallest time-differential a human being can actually percieve is on the order of .5 second (can't remember the source).

ewdi has the right of it - scalability is the name of the game. not necessarily how fast a single server can return stuff. If you can add 100 users to your system (and not add hardware) with less than 10% performance degredation, you are doing extremely well.

[ghenry]

It would be good if we could get some official endorsment from Fedora, for our forum and the fedorafaq etc.

They don't seem to have much else apart from the mailing lists.

[ewdi]

yeah, they hardly replied our emails lol :p

[crackers]

It would be good if we could get some official endorsment from Fedora, for our forum and the fedorafaq etc.
Actually, if they did that, they could be then legally liable for anything that goes on here, even though they have no real connection to the operation, posts, etc. That's one that I would file as "not a good business decision." And I can understand it, with everyone and their dog being lawsuit-happy these days...