xorg explodes

[zoinksbob]

I just installed Fedora 9 Preview. It failed to auto-detect my dual head setup, so I copied my xorg.conf from my Fedora 8 installation. This file works fine under F8, but under F9, I type startx, the screen goes black, and that's it. It's frozen. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and Ctrl-Alt-Del both do nothing.
Any ideas?
Below is my xorg.conf:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Dual head configuration"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
Screen 1 "Screen1" LeftOf "Screen0"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
Option "Xinerama" "on"
Option "Clone" "off"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# keyboard added by rhpxl
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us+inet"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
ModelName "CPD-E540 (autoconfigured)"
HorizSync 30.0 - 128
VertRefresh 85
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor1"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "SyncMaster"
HorizSync 30.0 - 80.0
VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nv"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard1"
Driver "radeon"
BusID "PCI:6:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1600x1200" "1600x1024" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1360x768" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Videocard1"
Monitor "Monitor1"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

[ghost_ryder35]

the xorg server is newer in f9 which might be causing this, and also not having the proper video card driver installed would kill this too. have you tried reconfiguring X yet?

[zoinksbob]

I'm sure I have both the NV and ATI drivers installed. I got Fedora to generate an xorg, and it worked, but it only used one screen. So I added the other screen to the xorg file, and it crashed again. Here's the working config generated by Fedora:

# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "single head configuration"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# keyboard added by rhpxl
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us+inet"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
ModelName "CPD-E540 (autoconfigured)"
HorizSync 30.0 - 110.0
VertRefresh 48.0 - 170.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nv"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1600x1200" "1600x1024" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1360x768" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

[ghost_ryder35]

I dont have an answer for you, but I will keep googling and let you know if I stumble accross anything. free bump though ;)

[zoinksbob]

Thanks. Appreciated.

[Janl]

What did it do before you replaced the xorg.conf file from the one you had used in F8?

[AntMan]

so I copied my xorg.conf from my Fedora 8 installation. This file works fine under F8, but under F9, I type startx, the screen goes black.
Below is my xorg.conf:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nv"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard1"
Driver "radeon"
BusID "PCI:6:0:0"
EndSection

Please post more info:
What video cards are currently installed on your machine? The F8 xorg shows it trying to use an ATI and NVidia driver.

I'm sure I have both the NV and ATI drivers installed.
How exactly did you install these drivers? Remember that nVidia doesn't fully support pre-release software (which is what F9 is). I heard that nVidia now has a beta driver version for F9, is that what you installed?

[zoinksbob]

I have an nVidia GeForce 7300 GS and an ATI Radeon 7000. I didn't install any drivers; I'm just using the ones that come with xorg.

[Hlingler]

I'm sorry, I have tried to pass this thread up without comment, but I can't. I am not surprised that an F8 xorg.conf failed when copied directly to F9 - and you should not be either. Your manual edits of xorg.conf were obviously flawed.

"Display Manager" (system-config-display) has a tab to set dual-head monitors - at least it doeas in F8 and every version I've ever seen. The second video card and associated settings are set on that tab (in F8). When saved, it writes the setup to your xorg.conf file. Have you tried to setup your dual-head using that GUI utility?

For info: drivers "nv" and "radeon" are in fact the 2D open-source video drivers for those cards/chipsets that come with Fedora (packages xorg-x11-drv-nv and xorg-x11-drv-ati). xorg-x11-drv-ati is actually a driver "wrapper" that calls the specific ATI driver to be used (in this case: "radeon"). Both of these drivers appear to support dual-head configurations - at least they do in F8, but as already pointed out, all the Xorg-related packages are new in F9. 'man nv' and 'man radeon' would provide you with more details. Neither the "radeon" nor the "nv" driver (nor any other open-source drivers) will provide any 3D DRI support for those video cards/chipsets. You would need the proprietary drivers for both.

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[zoinksbob]

Golly-gosh gee-whillikers, Batman! There's a GUI to set up X? Holy crap!
Yes, I tried the GUI. It didn't give me the option of using the second video card.
Yes, I know the xorg if F9 is new. It should still be backwards-compatible.
Yes, I know that the open drivers don't give me 3D support. I don't use openGL for anything anyway.
If my xorg.conf is flawed, can you point out the flaw? 'Cause I tried "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and it didn't return anything.
You're not being helpful, just derisive. Fortunately, I'm very think-skinned.

[Hlingler]

Golly-gosh gee-whillikers, Batman! There's a GUI to set up X? Holy crap!
Yes, I tried the GUI. It didn't give me the option of using the second video card.
Yes, I know the xorg if F9 is new. It should still be backwards-compatible.
Yes, I know that the open drivers don't give me 3D support. I don't use openGL for anything anyway.
If my xorg.conf is flawed, can you point out the flaw? 'Cause I tried "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and it didn't return anything.
You're not being helpful, just derisive. Fortunately, I'm very think-skinned.Sorry if that sounded rough. From your posts, its was not clear that you knew or had tried these things. There is no guarantee that anything will work yet for F9.

Specific suggestions: turn xinerama off and clone on.

/var/log/Xorg.0.log won't reveal anything after a successful restart of X, since the record of the previous (failed?) start will be overwritten. But if you could get to a virtual terminal after a failed startx, then maybe you could find some messages in that log (also WW although warnings should not be fatal, but...).

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[zoinksbob]

No offense taken. I'll try Xinerama off. I'll also need to set up networking to see if I can ssh in. But the log file I was looking at was definitely from the failed start. I checked the time stamp. So it's not putting out any errors.