Fedora 9 Preview Release

[cloneu2]

Well its the 10th of April and 10:30 am... I have looked for the new release to no avail on the mirrors. I have to do a full install (once again) because the last Rawhide update trashed, yum,system-config-display, and many other things.
I thought that they would post the new update at 10 am... Has it been postponed?

Final Development freeze
Branch all packages for Fedora 9
10 April 2008
Fedora 9 Preview Release

22 April 2008
Release Candidate 1
Historically Test and General Availability releases happen at 10:00am Eastern US Time, which is either 1500UTC or 1400UTC depending on daylight savings in the United States


enjoy :eek:

[AntMan]

Well, the day is not over yet... ;)
:cool:

[BeGe]

Well yes but it depends on which side of the world :cool:

[Gnafu the Great]

Yeah, it technically should have been released about 3 hours ago now.

[karlpiuemeno]

waiting for preview release :( no leaked links :(

[karlpiuemeno]

after two days of silence.... boot.iso released :D

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/images/

yeah :D let's try

[cloneu2]

after two days of silence.... boot.iso released :D

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/images/

yeah :D let's try


And as of tonight they still just show the Beta from march. No April Preview.... I don't want to load the beta and upgrade it again..... The upgrades sometimes Break things....

How do you use the boot iso for a net install... OR is it just to slow... I have a 10M connection BUT loose my patients after a few hours with the slow mirrors...

enjoy :eek:

[HMSS013]

no postponement... no preview release... i guess i'll just have to be patient till April 29th. :(

[Demz]

there working on getting it out, it maybe a day or so late

On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 13:21 +1000, Greg wrote: > > is it or would it be worth skipping the Preview release an go straight > > to the Release candidate? It's being handled; sit tight

from fedora test List

[karlpiuemeno]

the internet install was good.... fedora works good, but has still some problems......

No kernel post messages, now boot is really fast :D

[Demz]

the internet install was good.... fedora works good, but has still some problems......

No kernel post messages, now boot is really fast :D
glad boots fast i was having issues with slowness in F8 boot times

anyone know whats going on with Echo-Icon-Theme ?.. will that be default in F9 or no?

[cloneu2]

We froze for Fedora 9 early this morning (the same time the rawhide
compose happened). This is our final freeze.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy
explains the policy.

We're planning a snapshot we'll call 'Preview Release' this Thursday or
Friday. Then release candidates will be created next week. If it
becomes obvious that we will have to slip the release date for getting
certain bugs fixed we will announce very loudly as soon as we make the
decision.

Mass CVS branching will come later this week so that folks can begin
work on F10.

PS: to see if your build is tagged for Fedora 9, check 'koji latest-pkg
f9-final <package>'
--
Jesse Keating


Found this little ditty.... So Friday came and went and still no preview

[AntMan]

Found this little ditty.... So Friday came and went and still no preview

Ok... so grab the boot.iso listed in this thread and install via network like I did (if you have the bandwidth). If not, just hang tight and wait for it. :cool:

[Aaron_H]

...Part of me wants to test the RC or preview, but I may be better off just waiting for the final... I'll probably try the preview when it gets released as an iso though.

[RahulSundaram]

glad boots fast i was having issues with slowness in F8 boot times

anyone know whats going on with Echo-Icon-Theme ?.. will that be default in F9 or no?

Echo still needs more work. We will have the same default as Fedora 8 in this release.

[cloneu2]

Ok... so grab the boot.iso listed in this thread and install via network like I did (if you have the bandwidth). If not, just hang tight and wait for it. :cool:
Guess i'll have to wait. seems that the iso file will not format my 320 sata drive right, (in text or graphic mode) It just trashes out at the end of format. It won't do an upgrade using the http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/ repo.. get an error. The present system will not do a yum update as yum just gives me a segmentation fault (blew up several days ago with a yum update) and all i can do is surf the net and read mail....
Oh well guess we will just have to wait..

enjoy :mad:

[Gnafu the Great]

Guess i'll have to wait. seems that the iso file will not format my 320 sata drive right, (in text or graphic mode) It just trashes out at the end of format. It won't do an upgrade using the http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/ repo.. get an error. The present system will not do a yum update as yum just gives me a segmentation fault (blew up several days ago with a yum update) and all i can do is surf the net and read mail....
Oh well guess we will just have to wait..

enjoy :mad:

Don't just wait; file a bug report! If it doesn't work now and you say nothing, how do you know the final will? :)

[tmlunde]

New date: April 17...

[lchisholm]

I see tat it is the 17th for the pre install ?
also the 22nd for the RC 1
and final on 29th?
I was looking for the pre release but ended up with whatever was out there but did get it installed and now looking for some quick way to install kde 4.0.3
Larryl.

[Demz]

pre-release runing a bit late,, how late i dont know, honestly IMO i dunno why there bothering about a pre-release anymore,, just as easy to skip to a RC

[Aaron_H]

Skipping to the RC and shipping that a bit early might save a lot more bandwidth.
3 installs within a few days of each other :|
I'm up for it. :)

[Demz]

IMO the Preview Release was an or is a bit stupid to say the least,,,why don't they just have the 1 RC if not 2

ok the Preview has slipped to the 17th , was the 15th which means the final will also slip by a week or 2

[Aaron_H]

The idea of having more releases is so that more and more people test it..
A lot of people won't want to test an alpha or beta, but wouldn't mind testing a preview release or a release candidate (which is essentially a stable release). More releases just allows the developers to make the final version as bug free as possible.

With the countdown on the front page, I don't think the final date will slip. It may be rushed and still have bugs, but I don't think it will slip. (I'd rather they spent an extra month or however long working on it to make it more stable).

[Demz]

The idea of having more releases is so that more and more people test it..
A lot of people won't want to test an alpha or beta, but wouldn't mind testing a preview release or a release candidate (which is essentially a stable release). More releases just allows the developers to make the final version as bug free as possible.

With the countdown on the front page, I don't think the final date will slip. It may be rushed and still have bugs, but I don't think it will slip. (I'd rather they spent an extra month or however long working on it to make it more stable).
a Preveiw isnt really a testing release, so it wont make a difference whether its a RC or Pre-Release .. just a stupid thing to have IMHO . i wouldnt be suprised if the final got pushed to mid may

[Aaron_H]

Doesn't any release up to the final equate to a testing version though really?
If people find bugs they will be fixed before the final. (I assume)

Although I don't see the point of a few releases a few days apart..

[drunkahol]

It's really just a name. There'll be some psychological attachment to it as well, but they're all there to be tested.

Alpha is going to be hairy
Beta should be much better
Pre-Release should be nearly at the final quality
RC1 should be the first attempt at a full release
Gold is the actual release.

Could rename it Alpha, Beta, RC1, RC2, Gold, but what does that gain you? There are 4 releases before going final - a good idea in my book.

Cheers

Duncan

[Aaron_H]

I agree with the 4 releases before going final.

But would you agree that two "testing releases" (whether they be preview, rc1 or alpha, beta) only a few days apart isn't the best idea?

If the gap between the releases were much greater I'd agree with it. But after only a few days it would be just the same as one of the other releases with a few patches.

I know not everybody has to download these ISOs and you can just download one and update it from there (or even just update from F8), but there will be some people that will download the preview release than RC1 a few days after. Not knowing that RC1 will essentially be the preview with a few patches (hopefully not a significant number).

If there were A LOT of patches between the 2 releases I'd understand it, but really within a few days can there really be that many?

[ghost_ryder35]

I've been running F9 for a while now and the only *bugs* i have found are with SElinux blocking everything and its mother under the sun (ex. pulse audio, ntp 'network time protocol')!
So in my opinion there will very unlikley be a lot of bugs in the pre-release

[Aaron_H]

Which means there may well be no bugs in the RC1 ;)

Which is why I wonder if there's a need for 2 releases so close together.
*shuts up about it now*

[Demz]

Doesn't any release up to the final equate to a testing version though really?
If people find bugs they will be fixed before the final. (I assume)

Although I don't see the point of a few releases a few days apart..
all the Preview will be is to fix the Major Bugs though, minor ones will be fixed as the distro gets out there

[buchalkalan]

if I'm not mistaken, 10 minutes to go to F9 preview release.... right?

[buchalkalan]

can some1 confirm it's 10AM Eastern time....

[cloneu2]

Its 10:13 am EST here on the 17th of april... Looks like they trashed it once again!

[AntMan]

I installed Rawhide from the current Boot.iso last night on another of my machines. So I am as cool as a cucumber. :cool:

[AntMan]

Ubuntu's 8.04 release candidate has been delayed too (even though this is just a preview release for Fedora). So I guess it's a tough month to be a Linux programmer. ;)

[cloneu2]

what repo did u use. I have burned several iso files and they all give me an error finding the repo. Tried it in normal mode and text mode. doesnt find repo.xml file

tks

[AntMan]

what repo did u use. I have burned several iso files and they all give me an error finding the repo. Tried it in normal mode and text mode. doesnt find repo.xml file

tks

I always use:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/

Always grab the current boot.iso from the "images" folder. To save on CD's I normally use my FlashUSB (used the LiveCD script)

[cloneu2]

I always use:
[code]
Always grab the current boot.iso from the "images" folder. To save on CD's I normally use my FlashUSB (used the LiveCD script)

Got and burned the iso. booted from it and when time came for th repo.. it had a default file://whatever....I changed it to the URL at redhat and got an error that repodata.xml not found. I changed to the mirror repo and put it in there still the same problem.
I am at a loss of what to try next.... :mad:

[drunkahol]

I agree with the 4 releases before going final.

But would you agree that two "testing releases" (whether they be preview, rc1 or alpha, beta) only a few days apart isn't the best idea?

If the gap between the releases were much greater I'd agree with it. But after only a few days it would be just the same as one of the other releases with a few patches.

I know not everybody has to download these ISOs and you can just download one and update it from there (or even just update from F8), but there will be some people that will download the preview release than RC1 a few days after. Not knowing that RC1 will essentially be the preview with a few patches (hopefully not a significant number).

If there were A LOT of patches between the 2 releases I'd understand it, but really within a few days can there really be that many?

Yes - the timing of Pre-Release and RC1 could probably be questioned. It may have all come down to a demand to have 4 test releases in the face of some developments that clearly weren't going to be ready before a certain date.

e.g. If Gnome 2.22 was only due for release last week, Fedora team may have waited until after then before releasing a Pre-Release - just because Gnome is such a major part of Fedora. That may not be the best example, but it's the one I've come up with for now :-)

Cheers

Duncan

[AntMan]

Got and burned the iso. booted from it and when time came for th repo.. it had a default file://whatever....I changed it to the URL at redhat and got an error that repodata.xml not found. I changed to the mirror repo and put it in there still the same problem.
I am at a loss of what to try next.... :mad:

Well, these are the steps I follow when installing rawhide.

1. Go to:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/
and get the current boot.iso for that day from the "images" folder.

2. Burn boot.iso to CD at slow speed.
3. Boot from the CD and when prompted for the source location select "URL"
4. Enter the URL location:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/

After that the install begins as normal. I have done this many times so far without error.

Hope this helps.

[cloneu2]

Thanks BUT still no go... I printed out your message and then did what I was told. It still gives me an error. I tried by setting my netcard manually and also by using DHCP from one of my servers. I watched the net traffic on another machine (using etherape) and it never requested any dns info. I changed the URL to yours and still got the file not found. Perhaps I will just have to give up after a month and go back to F8. Atleast everything worked and I have learned enough to get myself in a mess. Oh the HD formats now.. so I guess the ISO is getting there.

[buchalkalan]

I also followed the msg, and tried to install but no go.... :(

same problem faced by clone2u

[AntMan]

I also followed the msg, and tried to install but no go.... :(

same problem faced by clone2u
I'm not sure what is preventing you guys from installing from the boot.iso. Works fine on my end so I know the site is valid and working. Maybe the boot.iso doesn't support your network card :confused:

[cloneu2]

I also followed the msg, and tried to install but no go.... :(

same problem faced by clone2u
It's cloneu2 NOT clone2u :p

I used an old iso file and was able to do a net install of the new rawhide. KDE won't load, firefox thinks that there is no net connection, I have to put it online with each session, BUT yum works again so I guess that I can update this load. I am going to keep the old partition with the blown up rawhide on it as firefox has all my book marks etc.

Oh preview Where O Where R U ? :rolleyes:

[Gnafu the Great]

http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

^ Start torrenting, y'all! :p ^

[AntMan]

http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

^ Start torrenting, y'all! :p ^

Grabbing the torrent now.... will seed overnight.... :D

[cloneu2]

Grabbing the torrent now.... will seed overnight.... :D

Me TOO!... Just not happy with the speed. It says that it will take 3 days. Been DL for the last 2 hours or so.. Oh Well the end is near guess I have time to get a beer..

[Gnafu the Great]

Yeah, speeds on these early release torrents aren't always that good, but they're better than nothing :D.

[Aaron_H]

I'll start torrenting now and seed until the next release. :)

[Ivn]

I finished about 2 hours ago. I'll seed whenever i have internet access.

(I'm gonna install on my Asus G1 this afternoon)

[AntMan]

I downloaded the Preview LiveCD last night and used the LiveCD script to make a persistent USBflash stick. It works well. :D

[Ivn]

What scripts are those ?
And, how does the usb device works ? (boot and mounted as /?)

I want to try and install on a sd card (8GB), to boot from it. I hope to get fast boot, and look if disabling the HD i can get more hours on battery :)

[ryptyde]

What scripts are those ?
And, how does the usb device works ? (boot and mounted as /?)

I want to try and install on a sd card (8GB), to boot from it. I hope to get fast boot, and look if disabling the HD i can get more hours on battery :)

Check this link for more info on creating a usb device with persistence:
JeremyKatz (http://katzj.livejournal.com/?skip=20)

[cloneu2]

Well i loaded the preview and a new set of proglems. When I boot it just goes to grub!.. I tried doing an update with the install disk and it loads the kernel. Then I get a message
No kernel installed boot loader not updated. I see the kernel on the HD so I guess there is a problem with the install file.
I booted in rescue mode and can find the kernel on the hd.. but it looks like there is no grub conf.. what to do?

[cloneu2]

Well i loaded the preview and a new set of proglems. When I boot it just goes to grub!.. I tried doing an update with the install disk and it loads the kernel. Then I get a message
No kernel installed boot loader not updated. I see the kernel on the HD so I guess there is a problem with the install file.
I booted in rescue mode and can find the kernel on the hd.. but it looks like there is no grub conf.. what to do?
Well I'll answer myself.
I booted with a new iso file and then did an update of the system using the mirror at vt.edu.. It went ok and the system now boots. When I start x or go to gnome the screen flashes with a bug report and then it just sits there with the fedora background and no icons or anything else.

Looks like the torrent ( which took 23 hours with a 10M connection) is just junk. Will there ever be a working Fedora9

Enjoy

[AntMan]

Looks like the torrent ( which took 23 hours with a 10M connection) is just junk. Will there ever be a working Fedora9


I haven't burnt the DVD yet, but the LiveCD works fine so far on my laptop. Maybe I'll try the DVD install later tonight on another machine.

[cloneu2]

I haven't burnt the DVD yet, but the LiveCD works fine so far on my laptop. Maybe I'll try the DVD install later tonight on another machine.
I checked the dvd and it had errors. seems that the torrent was also bad. I am in the process of installing rawhide date 17 from the net now. Trying the ext4 file system. Can you say punishment
! :p

[kevin tough]

Yes I would like to help the Fedora cause as well so I started the install. Not being familiar with the LVM and seeing that it wanted to format "/" which had a size of the complete disk I quit the install. I have installed Fedora 8 with the default LVM.

Am I save to install the beta and what should I look for in the install settings to save my old data. Yes, maybe I should format my USB to ext3 and save all the data first.

Advice would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Kevin Tough

[cloneu2]

Well I finally got the april 17th version of rawhide (preview) to load and run. Seems that I had a few bad RAM chips in the machine and that might have been my problem. Kinda explains bad cd's iso files and system crashes......

I have it installed with FULL mpeg - mp3 - etc functions. All on an ext4 formated LVM... It seems real stable and Looks good..

:) YEA :)

Thanks for all the help and suggestions.

[Skunk Worx]

1) Accessibility option on login window allows unauthorized people to foul system settings. I assume there is a way for a admin to disable this capability.

2) Login prompt/window does resizing as name is selected...ugh. Seems odd.

3) Thunderbird and mozilla don't recognize existing accounts/settings/bookmarks from Fedora 8.
[DISREGARD - MY BAD...works fine when you put the . dirs in the right place!]

4) Hostname.domain is "localhost.localdomain" even though the machine is in DHCP and is getting the right IP address. There is no leases file in /var/lib/dhclient.

5) Within minutes there are a slew of SElinux messages denying access to :
pulseaudio
rhgb
gdm-session-wor
tmpwatch

6) Suspend option at login desktop does nothing.

Well, that's five minutes worth of things that seem odd. The software updater is already pulling 555 packages. Maybe they will fix some of this.

New stuff that sticks out :
Filesystem encryption is the default during the install. I disabled it.
Login screen looks like a desktop with a small login window. Very different. I like it.
Network/VPN manager on the top gnome toolbar.
I did not need to add "noapic" to the kernel line (so far). F8 would freeze after a few minutes of firefox w/o that on this 64 bit amd box.
Browser has some naggy new password offering to remember stuff.
The URL dropdown in FF has more info about the URL (not just the link but the name) the list gets huge fast with all this info.
There are new phone utility and a power monitor applications

I don't see anything like an egg timer. I would like to see a cool egg timer application so I can say "start beeping in 5 minutes" or 30 minutes or whatnot. And have multiple of them with multiple tones. Sometimes I am cooking and I have to scribble down when every step transition takes place, or time the span I am supposed to be doing cardio workouts. Heh, stop F9 to add my dream app!

Seems pretty nice so far.

RATS...I got the BETA not the PREVIEW. Back to transmission...explains all the updates I saw.

[Skunk Worx]

My updated beta install (up-to-date w/ 555 packages) had native flash working a little on youtube. The videos were black, but it was a start.

I was going to try and build rpm pkgs for the ati driver but gave up when I realized I downloaded the wrong iso :(

The preview (up-to-date w/ 12 packages) just gives "You need to upgrade flash" link instead of the gray circle and arrow when I go to youtube.

My host and domain are localhost.localdomain and I was careful in the install not to set it manually.

There is no /var/lib/dhclient/leases file

Attempting to build the ati driver fails for me :


# sh ./ati-driver-installer-8-4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Fedora/F9
...
doing Makefile based build for kernel 2.6.x and higher
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.25-1.fc9.x86_64/build SUBDIRS=/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.25-1.fc9.x86_64'
CC [M] /tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function 'firegl_put_user_ptr':
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1594: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1594: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1594: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1594: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function 'KCL_PosixSecurityCapGetEffectiveVector':
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1888: error: implicit declaration of function 'cap_t'
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function 'KCL_PosixSecurityCapSetEffectiveVector':
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1896: error: lvalue required as left operand of assignment
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function '__ke_unregister_ioctl32_conversion':
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:2972: warning: 'return' with a value, in function returning void
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function 'KAS_SlabCache_Initialize':
/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:5219: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
make[2]: *** [/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1.f9-root-root/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.25-1.fc9.x86_64'
make: *** [kmod_build] Error 2
build failed with return value 2
error: Bad exit status from /tmp/ATI-fglrx-8.476-1-7022-root/tmp/rpm-tmp.34929 (%install)

[Skunk Worx]

1) Overnight run left machine unusable. Would not change consoles or show gnome login, would ping from network but that is all. Sounds like "noapic" is still needed.

2) Clock is wrong. Was set to Los Angeles last night, is New York today.

3) When I try to change preferences via the gnome clock (right click, adjust data and time, set system time) I get an AVC denial in selinux. I cannot enter the auth password or change the settings. However when I go through the System-Administration-Date&Time it works fine.


host=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1208795562.862:23): avc: denied { sys_ptrace }
for pid=2793
comm="gnome-clock-app" capability=19 scontext=system_u:system_r:gnomeclock_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tcontext=system_u:system_r:gnomeclock_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=capability host=localhost.localdomain
type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1208795562.862:23): arch=c000003e syscall=89 success=no exit=-13
a0=7fff8482d8c0 a1=7fff8482d9d0 a2=fff a3=8101010101010100 items=0 ppid=1 pid=2793
auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295
comm="gnome-clock-app" exe="/usr/libexec/gnome-clock-applet-mechanism"
subj=system_u:system_r:gnomeclock_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)


4) The hostname and domain are pulled from the DHCP server (I see it in the /var/log/messages) but apps cannot get to them.


Apr 21 12:26:33 localhost automount[1855]: create_udp_client:99: hostname lookup failed: No such process
Apr 21 12:26:33 localhost automount[1855]: create_tcp_client:308: hostname lookup failed: No such process

[jbannon]

I've just loaded the preview from the LiveCD. Apart from sticking all the usual LiveCD stuff on (which is about to come off in a hurry) everything seems to have gone pretty smoothly. No graphics acceleration so the next hunt is for Livna stuff, but I'll get around to that.

[jbannon]

Hmmm... that was interesting! Loading the development nvidia drivers trashed the system! Oh well, back to the drawing board! Think I'll wait for the Gold release.

[ShivaS]

Direct download of F9 is now available ....Great! I'll install the x64 version tonight :)

[ShivaS]

I tried last night to download the DVD, both direct and using jigdo but the download failed. Perhaps the download servers are to busy ...:(

[vivo]

people you can try it and like help testing but from my experience you cant WORK on it :D it a little too buggy

[Demz]

people you can try it and like help testing but from my experience you cant WORK on it :D it a little too buggy
you can work on it to a degree just be sure you got Fedora8 to fall back to incase F9 fails to do what you want

[ProtocolOH]

Had a go at installing Linux on a new box this weekend. Tried Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron), hit some issues (see below), so I gave Fedora a go. Pulled down the FC9 Preview DVD and installed it, rather painlessly I might add. Picked up my RAID card without a hitch.

My question... now that I've got FC9 Preview installed and apparently running happily, when FC9 Final drops in a week, do I need to re-install my box to get FC9 Final running properly? Or do I simply need to install whatever updates appear over the next week or two, and I'll be running the same FC9 that everyone else is? I'll download and burn the FC9 Final DVD ISO for archival purposes regardless, but I'm hoping that I won't have to re-install to make my box an "official" FC9 install. Thanks.


P.S. For what it's worth, I had a go at installing Ubuntu (Hardy Heron 8.04 LTS) this weekend, but after dealing with a bug in the installer (it kvetches if I don't have a floppy drive set up in BIOS??), I find out that it's not picking up my RocketRaid 3120 card. Was gonna get the alternate install CD, but I decided to give Fedora a go instead. I haven't used Red Hat since RHL4... my personal server has been running Mandrake 8.1 for several years now.

Fedora picked up my RAID card without any questions, and based on that alone, I think I may stay with Fedora, rather than wrangle the Ubuntu installer into submission. Besides, why couldn't they support "true hardware" RAID cards right out of the box? They seem to be hung up on cramming as much as they can into only 700MB on a CD. Makes much more sense to release a DVD-ROM, as Fedora does.

[msrinath80]

Once again... Please see http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=187176

[lsatenstein]

Will there be any installation instructions for Fedora9 and Adobe Flash. True Flash is binary open, and not source open, but we users of multi-media require the ability to view flash files.

The Fedora9-prev (32bit) with no other flash program except Adobe does not show video or play sounds.

[Demz]

anyone read this? about Xorg7.4/1.5 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xorg_74&num=1

dont expect 3D Drivers to be out when F9 goes final

[jbannon]

Does that mean nvidia sets won't be there?

[Demz]

Basically No it wont be there till Xorg7.4/X-server1.5 goes final ,, only way you'll get 3D is to downgrade Xorg server to 1.3.0.0

[JN4OldSchool]

Basically No it wont be there till Xorg7.4/X-server1.5 goes final ,, only way you'll get 3D is to downgrade Xorg server to 1.3.0.0


I will be highly surprised if Fedora doesnt downgrade for the release. I cant see a distro like this releasing without an easy way to enable 3D.

[Seve]

Hey JN4:
That's a good observation :)

As it stands, both firefox and X will be in "non-finished" states. Not that it is necessarily any fault of Fedora, however, it will make it rather interesting if they don't opt for something like you have suggested.

Seve

[Demz]

I will be highly surprised if Fedora doesnt downgrade for the release. I cant see a distro like this releasing without an easy way to enable 3D.
JN.. we both know Fedora is testing Ground for the Upcomming RHEL releases so i nsome ways i dont think Fedora/redhat team really care a lot about whether we/us users get to use 3D from the Point we download Fedora 9 or any other release ..,,

[stefan1975]

I will be highly surprised if Fedora doesnt downgrade for the release. I cant see a distro like this releasing without an easy way to enable 3D.

well there is this beta driver, since xorg-server is beta too it seems only logical that the video driver is as well:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=111460

it is supopsed to work with F9, i am trying it now. so far it works with suse11 beta as well.

This driver contains unofficial, experimental support for xorg-server 1.4.99.901 and the development snapshot X servers released with the Fedora 9 beta. To use this support, you will have to add the -ignoreABI option to the X server command line arguments. For this release, it is also recommended that you disable GLX...

stefan

[Seve]

Hello Stefan:

You can give it a whirl if you like and report back :)

I'm pretty sure that among others Leigh has proven that you will need to drop back one version of X to be successful.

I'm sure Leigh or others can correct me if I'm mistaken.

Seve

[Demz]

Hello Stefan:

You can give it a whirl if you like and report back :)

I'm pretty sure that among others Leigh has proven that you will need to drop back one version of X to be successful.

I'm sure Leigh or others can correct me if I'm mistaken.

Seve
im sure your correct Seve ..

[jbannon]

Thanks guys. So we install yum-allowdowngrade & then put Xorg in as an exclude until the final release then?

[leigh123@linux]

Hello Stefan:

You can give it a whirl if you like and report back :)

I'm pretty sure that among others Leigh has proven that you will need to drop back one version of X to be successful.

I'm sure Leigh or others can correct me if I'm mistaken.

Seve


Hi Seve,

It's not just the server that needs to be downgraded !
You also need to downgrade mesa-libGL .

Leigh

[leigh123@linux]

Thanks guys. So we install yum-allowdowngrade & then put Xorg in as an exclude until the final release then?


Here's my exclude list for yum.conf .


exclude=xorg-x11-* mesa-libGL mesa-libGL-devel linuxwacom rhpxl

[leigh123@linux]

well there is this beta driver, since xorg-server is beta too it seems only logical that the video driver is as well:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=111460

it is supopsed to work with F9, i am trying it now. so far it works with suse11 beta as well.



stefan


Doesn't suse 11 beta use xorg 7.3 !!

The above nvnews link will only provide 2D support in fedora unless you downgrade the xorg server !

[jbannon]

Thanks leigh.

[Demz]

Doesn't suse 11 beta use xorg 7.3 !!

The above nvnews link will only provide 2D support in fedora unless you downgrade the xorg server !
im not sure but from what i see they are only using 7.3, perhaps bob may know