Fedora 9 issues

[ihavenoname]

Hey I have been testing Fedora 9 on kde 4, and I was just wondering if anyone else had these issues because I plan on filing some bug reports when I get a chance.
If you have experianced any of these or you have any of this hardware please test and let me know. I want to see if any of this is "hardware based" ( I don't mean as a result of bad hardware f8 works fine here I mean related to only one set of hardware).

1. using the intel driver the screen flicker periodically (don't know about anything else besides intel)
2. touchpad won't scroll with normal users (scrolls fine with root)
3. sound doesn't work with normal users (works fine with root)
4. hibernate and suspend no longer work
5. packagekit doesn't allow you to install anything and the updater crashes before it starts


another interesting thing is that I have several hundred megabytes of updates on saturday. But since monday I haven't gotten any updates at all. Which seems weird, I mean this is rawhide after all I expect updates hourly (maybe that's slightly exaggerating).

[b_martinez]

Hey I have been testing Fedora 9 on kde 4, and I was just wondering if anyone else had these issues because I plan on filing some bug reports when I get a chance.
If you have experianced any of these or you have any of this hardware please test and let me know. I want to see if any of this is "hardware based" ( I don't mean as a result of bad hardware f8 works fine here I mean related to only one set of hardware).

1. using the intel driver the screen flicker periodically (don't know about anything else besides intel)
2. touchpad won't scroll with normal users (scrolls fine with root)
3. sound doesn't work with normal users (works fine with root)
4. hibernate and suspend no longer work
5. packagekit doesn't allow you to install anything and the updater crashes before it starts


another interesting thing is that I have several hundred megabytes of updates on saturday. But since monday I haven't gotten any updates at all. Which seems weird, I mean this is rawhide after all I expect updates hourly (maybe that's slightly exaggerating).

Hi, ihavenoname!
I've experienced #1, using the provided driver, but only with desktop effects activate.
#2,#3 and #5 work for me! :D
I usually don't use suspend or hibernate, so, I've no report.
Will try these, and get back to you.
Bill

[ihavenoname]

Hi, ihavenoname!
I've experienced #1, using the provided driver, but only with desktop effects activate.
#2,#3 and #5 work for me! :D
I usually don't use suspend or hibernate, so, I've no report.
Will try these, and get back to you.
Bill

ok thank you. Very interesting..hmm.

[Demz]

have you had a look in bugzilla for anything refering to this issue?.. no point writing down your problems in the forum as the Devs don't monitor the forum

[scottro]

Well package kit, last I saw on testing, was still pretty messy. (I haven't been following it though, I use yum from command line.)
I too had the no updates thingie--I did yum clean all, then they all came in. I'm not sure what happened with the cache, but I have fastestmirrors plugin, which might have had an effect.

The intel card--I have an Acer laptop and it autoconfigured as vesa. I just changed the driver from vesa to intel and it was fine.
Sound as root probably has something to do with the same permissions issue that has been going on since November 2007. At first it seemed tied to consolekit, but I believe they've changed that so that consolekit runs whether you want it or not. One thing you can try is to edit /etc/security/console.perms.d. I'm too lazy to look at this instant, but I have a page about the F8 sound problems at http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/rhsound.html and it's there somewhere do a search on the page for dsp and it should find it.
Ah--one thing--nothing I did got sound to work after installing the 28 March snapshot, but it was fixed with the next round of updates.

[b_martinez]

@ihavenoname
no suspend or hibernate. you may want to file a bug.
bill
I just did a command line 'yum clean all' then 'yum update yum' which produced no update for yum. However the pkg-kit suddenly came up with 84 updates that it didn't have 10 minutes before.
If you're worried about updates, try it.
bill

[ihavenoname]

have you had a look in bugzilla for anything refering to this issue?.. no point writing down your problems in the forum as the Devs don't monitor the forum
yes I have looked at many of these issues on bugzilla, I don't believe I was successful in finding any though this maybe my lack of experiance with redhat's bugzilla. But that's not why I was posting here. I just wanted to make sure the issues I was experiancing were not addressed in something I'd missed. I plan to file these bugs.

[ihavenoname]

hibernate bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440171

[Demz]

yes I have looked at many of these issues on bugzilla, I don't believe I was successful in finding any though this maybe my lack of experiance with redhat's bugzilla. But that's not why I was posting here. I just wanted to make sure the issues I was experiancing were not addressed in something I'd missed. I plan to file these bugs.
ok.. i do believe there's another thread in the forum about Fedora 9 beta Link that has people reporting or telling there issues in it also .. i know what you mean by the bugzilla,, im no good at it either :) .. i find it easier to watch the test-list

[bob]

I'd still file a bug. Worst case, it gets merged with another similar bug, but at least it's on record.

[ihavenoname]

I'd still file a bug. Worst case, it gets merged with another similar bug, but at least it's on record.

I am going to go through this weekend and files these bugs. The thing is for some of these issues, I wanted to track down some package or some way of getting a bug trace or something. This is mainly for discussion of these issues at the user/tester level. Plus this encourages others to go out and try some of these issues as well, who knows maybe we get a few extra little bugs solved before release. But no worries, I fully intend to file bug reports as soon as I get a chance (busy week w/ school and all and I like filing good bug reports, though that hibernate one is kind of lacking..)

The issues I have encountered are mostly just mild annoyances that I have workarounds for, but still not things you want to see in a fully release. It really shed light on the importance of testing some of this stuff early and filing the reports out. I suggest others do this as well, everyone's hardware is different so you may find that something don't work that you would probably want working in Fedora 9. So test and file bug reports and chances are you will be happy with Fedora 9.

[kevmif]

Does anyone get a shutdown screen happnin?

For me it just goes to the text based logon screen, sits there for 15 seconds, then powers off. No status or anything.

[b_martinez]

@kevmif
are you talking about the regular shutdown messages during a regular shutdown, or are you talking about when suspend/hibernate fail?
bill

[kevmif]

The normal shutdown stuff.... you know, stopping services etc. It just doesn't happen for me. Only the login screen, followed by a wait, then a power off.

[b_martinez]

Same here. Figured it was just the way it was set-up, and didn't really think about it after that. If you want to watch the messages, perhaps switching to VT1[ 'ctrl-alt-F1'] will show you.
bill

[kevmif]

hrrrm.... is it a legit bug? Is there a bug report? Something to do with upstart perhaps?

I'l keep an eye on it, hopefully its fixed soon.

[b_martinez]

Heck, I dunno. It may be that we're supposed to figure, 'if it's dead, shutdown worked' :p
bill

[darko28]

I am running it in VirtualBox right now with a 30 GB HD and 512 MB RAM Video is running on 128 MB. Worked kind of slow the first time, but I expected that with VirtualBox and after I updated all the packages, it gets to the locallogin: during the boot process and tries to go to the login screen however hangs and keeps flickering between trying to go to login and the other screen. Any suggestions? I am thinking I might have to reinstall but would like to avoid that as with VirtualBox the install takes quite awhile.

[bob]

(moved to Alpha-Beta)

[snoze]

Man! the Virtual Box is ultimate. Is is better than vmware and qemu etc.