F9 Beta - no obvious way to switch to kde?

[marko]

I installed the F9 beta and picked both Gnome and KDE
and their associated development libraries. F9 boots the
user to Gnome as expected but after much searching
I see no way in personal preferences, system settings or
administration where the user can flip his default desktop
to KDE? The gnome login app just shows the currently
setup users and a button for shutdown, suspend and restart.

Mark

[bbfuller]

Hello marko

On mine, once you have selected a user there is the equivalent of a panel along the bottom of the screen where you can select "Session" and "Language".

Hope you've got it as well.

Don't suppose there is a chance you're using it with a wireless card is there?

On mine now NetworkManager seems to remember the password as well as the keyphrase for previously connected wireless networks and I'm not sure I like that.

[marko]

I have a Intel 2100 mini-pci wireless but I turned off NetworkManager for now.
On my home network I'm on wired ethernet with static ips and didn't want to
hassle with NM to do my big yum update. I'll see what desk switching works
like after this update is in (438 packages..) and then try networking with
NM at the local wireless cafe.

Mark

[scottro]

I'm not sure if the session menu was left out at first or if many people simply missed it. At any rate, updating should fix it. As was said, it's on the bottom now.

[marko]

Hmm, I don't get it, I installed switchdesk and ran it:

switchdesk kde

it then said I was switched to kde. I rebooted to use the new kernel
and it's still sending me into gnome. There is nothing on the session menu
but three buttons: Suspend Restart Shutdown and in the
lower left extreme corner a button to change some handicapped user features.
My $home/.Xclients-default has "startkde" in it as I would expect.

Note the above is going on after I rebooted to use the huge package
update set. So I should be up-to-date to rawhide as of now in the
repos. I suspect the way the desktop is handled is different now,
I think I remember something changed with inittab and how it works.

Update: Well, I got kde this way after finding no switch menu on my
PC:

- edited /etc/inittab to set initlevel 5 to 3 for default (for future boots)
- confirmed $home/.Xclients-default was KDE for me (it was)
- as root did init 3
- removed rhgb entries from grub.conf
- ran startx as normal user

This got me into kde....


UPDATE -- I guess I may have edited this into another post thread
but I set my selinux to permissive and got the bottom bar back and
was able to set it to KDE. Now it's stably logging into kde4.

Mark

[bbfuller]

Hello marko

There is nothing on the session menu but three buttons: Suspend Restart Shutdown and in the lower left extreme corner a button to change some handicapped user features.

That's what I see as well on the screen that holds the list of valid users.

However, on that screen I have nowhere to enter a password.

As soon as I click on a user from the list, the list contracts to just the user I selected, there is a password box waiting to be filled in and the bar at the bottom of the screen changes to hold a Language selection drop down and a Sessions drop down which contains KDE and Gnome.

I installed from the direct download i386 dvd, did you install from any of the other media? I know that the login screens are subtly different if you use CD/DVD/Gnome Live CD/KDE Live CD in Fedora 8. That could maybe explain it?

[marko]

Yeah, if you click on the user, then the passwd slot appears, I'm
not sure I like that design compared to the F8 one.

I got a direct DVD i386 torrrent

[kevmif]

It tricked me too at first hehehe.

Yeah I hate the new GDM unfortunately :(

[bbfuller]

Hello marko,

Yeah, if you click on the user, then the passwd slot appears,

It's just very odd that you don't see the KDE/Gnome switcher at that stage. I'm not convinced it was there for me until I updated, but I remember that you've done that in any case.

[marko]

Hello marko,



It's just very odd that you don't see the KDE/Gnome switcher at that stage. I'm not convinced it was there for me until I updated, but I remember that you've done that in any case.

I do have the switcher now (Ref post#5) but only either due to an
update or my switching selinux from enforcing to permissive.
I'm not sure what did it.

Mark

[bbfuller]

Hello marko

I usually use KDE, but when I first booted the Fedora 9 I don't remember seeing the switcher and ended up in Gnome.

I did a full update directly and the switcher has been there ever since.

It may be that it wasn't that I missed it first time, maybe it just wasn't there.

[RahulSundaram]

Hi,

A recent update to GDM has enabled the session feature again. Please test with SELinux enabled and report problems instead of turning it off. Thanks.

[icantux]

It tricked me too at first hehehe.

Yeah I hate the new GDM unfortunately :(


I tend to strongly agree with you on this one. I hope that one doesn't make it into the final distribution. I'd see myself changing that very quickly.