Fedora 9 Beta Release Download Link

[Jags_FL]

hi everyone

I was just wondering if anyone have found Fedora 9 Beta Release download link yet

Thanks a million in advance :)

[Demz]

look through the mirrors

[Jags_FL]

Thanks Demz.

I already did. I found this ".9 Beta" Links ( http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/.9-Beta/i386/ ) but that or any other link in mirrors didn't lead to Fedora 9 Beta :confused:

Guess we'll have to just wait...

[Demz]

did you look through all of them though?.. there's bound to the a backdoor to the beta somewhere ,, took me awhile to find the Alpha leak link

[pikul]

Only shows 3 mirrors but they dont have it yet :(

[Demz]

Only shows 3 mirrors but they dont have it yet :(
gotta look through all of them to find the link,, not just the links in Fedora 9 beta

[pikul]

OOOOOOOhhhhh ok, ill check it now :)

[Demz]

long list there to check but im not doing it this time :)

[Thetargos]

Hopefully this Beta will have the infamous Anaconda problems resolved. I couldn't install Alpha onto my laptop, but hopefully will be able to install Beta :D

[Demz]

Hopefully this Beta will have the infamous Anaconda problems resolved. I couldn't install Alpha onto my laptop, but hopefully will be able to install Beta :D
i hope so to though i never tried the Alpha after hearing how bad it was, .. i was hoping to have my new videocard by now so i could test it on that but looks like i'll have to use the 7950 nvidia

[pikul]

uuufff it was really late, i only check like 15 mirros and went to sleep jajaja

To bad about de nvidia drivers thing, i guess ill be using my integrated video (intel chipset) :)

[JBLoudG20]

Sorry wrong link.

[buchalkalan]

where is Fedora 9 Beta ...... I am hungry .... muuuuuhaaaaaaa..... :p

[leigh123linux]

The F9 beta release date has been changed to 25/03/08

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Schedule?action=show&redirect=Schedule

[buchalkalan]

oh..... :( .... OK....
thnx for da info. ....

[Ymir]

Booooooo. I am trying to be patient here...

[karlpiuemeno]

what's the problem?

Download a development boot.iso
point to a network installation url (one of the mirrors)
and install your fresh rawhide...

beta is only a snapshot..

I'm using rawhide since 2 weeks, and IT ISN'T beta quality. Fedora team doesn't want to release ****ty software ;) so:

Wait for the beta.... or install now rawhide..

There are a lot of bug.

The buggiest one is package kit..... rpm -i (for now) is the only solution to get working some packages....

some xorg issues have been fixed..... nautilus too... but all the system isn't beta quality..

[Demz]

what's the problem?

Download a development boot.iso
point to a network installation url (one of the mirrors)
and install your fresh rawhide...

beta is only a snapshot..

I'm using rawhide since 2 weeks, and IT ISN'T beta quality. Fedora team doesn't want to release ****ty software ;) so:

Wait for the beta.... or install now rawhide..

There are a lot of bug.

The buggiest one is package kit..... rpm -i (for now) is the only solution to get working some packages....

some xorg issues have been fixed..... nautilus too... but all the system isn't beta quality..
i wouldnt be aadvising people to download the Alpha rawhide when the alpha was un-usable, best to wait for the Beta then download

[leigh123linux]

i wouldnt be aadvising people to download the Alpha rawhide when the alpha was un-usable, best to wait for the Beta then download


Perhaps you should read the post again as you are wrong !

At present Rawhide is closer to the beta release !

[kevmif]

How stable will the beta be?

I installed F8 test 3 before the final release and was not too impressed....

I am really, really hanging for some of the new stuff though.

[Seve]

How stable will the beta be?Hello:
It depends as I'm sure you know.

It could be the best thing since sliced bread and on the other hand it could be a nightmare?

No way of telling for sure, other than taking a look at the planned features / changes from F8 and using your own judgment.

I would expect it to be not stable ..... anything different than that would be a bonus :)


Seve

[leigh123linux]

How stable will the beta be?

I installed F8 test 3 before the final release and was not too impressed....

I am really, really hanging for some of the new stuff though.


Rawhide runs great here but I had to beat it into submission :cool:


[leigh@localhost ~]$ uptime
00:09:06 up 10:20, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.23, 0.31
[leigh@localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.25-0.130.rc6.git3.fc9
[leigh@localhost ~]$ compiz --version
compiz 0.7.3
[leigh@localhost ~]$ emerald --version
emerald: emerald version 0.7.3
[leigh@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa |grep nvidia
nvidia-x11-drv-171.06-1.fc9.x86_64
nvidia-x11-drv-32bit-171.06-1.fc9.x86_64
[leigh@localhost ~]$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4

[Demz]

wonder what the chances are of compiz0.7.2 going into Beta

[leigh123linux]

wonder what the chances are of compiz0.7.2 going into Beta


Zero ..........................

[Demz]

Zero ..........................
well i hope your wrong or i might have to force myself to use your git head versions, but i cant see how KDE4 is suposed to function without .7.x release unless they backport a few things into 0.6.2

[leigh123linux]

Beta Has Been Pushed To The 25Th which is good, gives me time till i get my Videocard

have a look on the release Schedule for More about it


I already stated that the release date had slipped in post #15 !!

[Demz]

I already stated that the release date had slipped in post #15 !!
ok ok, so im slow,, . i missed that post, ,, but i'll look .. ok i'll Delete My post,, but you might wanna edit your post, ,Make it in Bold ( just the Date ) that way people will notice it more :)

just saw this by Rahul on the test List... Packagekit is now the default?

[karlpiuemeno]

ok ok, so im slow,, . i missed that post, ,, but i'll look .. ok i'll Delete My post,, but you might wanna edit your post, ,Make it in Bold ( just the Date ) that way people will notice it more :)

just saw this by Rahul on the test List... Packagekit is now the default?

packagekit (in this moment) is installed by default, replacing pirut (pirut isn't installed)..........


for now package kit gives me a lot of errors.... so I continue to use yumex + old terminal ways.


for the "rawhide quality"........ rawhide TODAY is stable but not 100 % working. I explain my self:

Stable: the basesystem is going to be solid... I've no more xorg lockups and kernel crashes (just some failures, submitted...) so my desktop doesn't reboot

Working: it isn't full working.... nautilus in these days have some problems with double click, empty trash... packagekit a lot of errors.. firefox has problems with bookmark manager (downloading a nightly build shows mozilla team is working on it, but for now bookmark manager is an hell)

the new network manager is "empty"...they changed the interface...

there are some keyboard issues..... blocnum discarding, wrong default keyboard....

the xorg + radeon driver are more slow (I think, debug code....) my vga now is sucking at glxgears....... divxes....... vlc doesn't work...

and many more....


so: the fedora team is doing a LOT of work..... I think fedora 9 would be one of the "most complicated" release ever.... there is a lot of work on base tools.....

for example: yum now is faster....


I'm 100% sure that fedora 9 will be released on MAY..... April is too much early :)


ps the last one: upstart seems to work.... looking at boot process, there are less pauses....
now the boot process is slower than fedora 8.... but let's wait for the final code :D :cool:

the new services manager rox ;)

[Demz]

packagekit (in this moment) is installed by default, replacing pirut (pirut isn't installed)..........


for now package kit gives me a lot of errors.... so I continue to use yumex + old terminal ways.


for the "rawhide quality"........ rawhide TODAY is stable but not 100 % working. I explain my self:

Stable: the basesystem is going to be solid... I've no more xorg lockups and kernel crashes (just some failures, submitted...) so my desktop doesn't reboot

Working: it isn't full working.... nautilus in these days have some problems with double click, empty trash... packagekit a lot of errors.. firefox has problems with bookmark manager (downloading a nightly build shows mozilla team is working on it, but for now bookmark manager is an hell)

the new network manager is "empty"...they changed the interface...

there are some keyboard issues..... blocnum discarding, wrong default keyboard....

the xorg + radeon driver are more slow (I think, debug code....) my vga now is sucking at glxgears....... divxes....... vlc doesn't work...

and many more....


so: the fedora team is doing a LOT of work..... I think fedora 9 would be one of the "most complicated" release ever.... there is a lot of work on base tools.....

for example: yum now is faster....


I'm 100% sure that fedora 9 will be released on MAY..... April is too much early :)


ps the last one: upstart seems to work.... looking at boot process, there are less pauses....
now the boot process is slower than fedora 8.... but let's wait for the final code :D :cool:

the new services manager rox ;)

doesn't surprise me about Firefox Bookmark Manager i think the whole bookmark manager is a complete Mess,, who uses Smart Bookmarks anyway. ff3 is a tad disappointing release ..

on my IMHO of Fedora 9, i think they have added way to many features to it, what will they do with fedora 10? there wont be any new features, just improvements.. im subscribed to the test-list i havent read any one reporting issues with packageKit, but then i may miss them, ..they should really do another Beta after this one IMO ,Time will tell what happens when the final is released, depending on this Beta close to the end of it they should be able to tell what happens with the final date

[karlpiuemeno]

@demz firefox 3 has a lot of improvements.... every week it does better scores on acid3 test (yesterday 71/100) is faster and stable... the only problem is in bookmark manager...... it destroyed also my bookmarks...

Yes, fedora 9 is a great step towards usability for "newbies"
let's explain.... for me isn't a problem resizing partitions, installing applications, etc..... but for MANY newbies ubuntu is the right choise....

Fedora NOW is competitive to debian derives.. rpm always rocked like dpkg.... but yum sucked against apt-get..
now yum is faster, and package kit replaces pirut (an abort in usability)

But.. I'm sure that the release day, fedora 9 would have some bugs...... and will not be ready for "all"....for a couple of months, the best choise will be fedora 8 (love this release, is the best for me)

Tonight I was looking at koji releases....... they are working VERY VERY VERY hard... so let's wait..... I think this week will be very hot.
Incoming updates ;)

[karlpiuemeno]

like not said.... just released a LOOOOOOOOOOT of updates..... so tonight I saw right!
I use the official redhat repository instead of mirrors.....

256 updates..... 501 MB of downloads!

there's a new kernel too :D let's test!!

I'm so happy :D :D



ps fedora rawhide addiction :D Love these drugs :D lol

[Demz]

@demz firefox 3 has a lot of improvements.... every week it does better scores on acid3 test (yesterday 71/100) is faster and stable... the only problem is in bookmark manager...... it destroyed also my bookmarks...

Yes, fedora 9 is a great step towards usability for "newbies"
let's explain.... for me isn't a problem resizing partitions, installing applications, etc..... but for MANY newbies ubuntu is the right choise....

Fedora NOW is competitive to debian derives.. rpm always rocked like dpkg.... but yum sucked against apt-get..
now yum is faster, and package kit replaces pirut (an abort in usability)

But.. I'm sure that the release day, fedora 9 would have some bugs...... and will not be ready for "all"....for a couple of months, the best choise will be fedora 8 (love this release, is the best for me)

Tonight I was looking at koji releases....... they are working VERY VERY VERY hard... so let's wait..... I think this week will be very hot.
Incoming updates ;)
dont get me wrong i just hate the stupid bookmarks manager called smart bookmarks, thats my only complaint,

yum in Fedora8 was Dog slow for me, that slow i erased repo's i didnt really need, but would of been handy to have them but to speed up yum i had to do something i wasnt gonna install that fastestmirror plugin, im not convinced thats perfect or usable

im interested in using packageKit,, i hated pup,, was super slow .. i never used pirut ..so that i wont miss,

[karlpiuemeno]

dont get me wrong i just hate the stupid bookmarks manager called smart bookmarks, thats my only complaint,

yum in Fedora8 was Dog slow for me, that slow i erased repo's i didnt really need, but would of been handy to have them but to speed up yum i had to do something i wasnt gonna install that fastestmirror plugin, im not convinced thats perfect or usable

im interested in using packageKit,, i hated pup,, was super slow .. i never used pirut ..so that i wont miss,

Yes, smart bookmarks SUCKS.... Totally unuseful.....

Yum now is really faster.... I don't know if presto,fastest mirror, etc are now part of yum core.... but SURE is better than in fedora 8.. so improvements have been done...

(sorry for my ****ty english)

packagekit is a great standard solution.... but is too much young....

(i'm still downloading updates, my 7 megabit connection is working hard)

I hope these updates fix my problems.... :D

Love fedora, love redhat! :cool:

[Demz]

Yes, smart bookmarks SUCKS.... Totally unuseful.....

Yum now is really faster.... I don't know if presto,fastest mirror, etc are now part of yum core.... but SURE is better than in fedora 8.. so improvements have been done...

(sorry for my ****ty english)

packagekit is a great standard solution.... but is too much young....

(i'm still downloading updates, my 7 megabit connection is working hard)

I hope these updates fix my problems.... :D

Love fedora, love redhat! :cool:
i did hear somewhere on the forum that presto was default but i dunno if thats true ,,as far as i see they have taken that out of the Feature list so maybe it aint ready for default yet,

on PackageKit though, it will soon eventually mature just might take a few releases to do that

[karlpiuemeno]

OMG... the updates destroyed all...

first boot, no xorg.... edited xorg.conf, and started.... now glxgears goes better.....

network, destroyed.....

no audio....

packagekit seems work better....


bash problems....

yum faster....


boh... I wait a couple of hours.... so I will reinstall fedora 8, because the system is really corrupted...

[pikul]

I don't care if they delay the final release as long as it is awsome :)

Pd. I hope presto is by default on the final release, it save me like 4 horas of downloading updates 3 days ago when i made a new F8 install :)

[Demz]

OMG... the updates destroyed all...

first boot, no xorg.... edited xorg.conf, and started.... now glxgears goes better.....

network, destroyed.....

no audio....

packagekit seems work better....


bash problems....

yum faster....


boh... I wait a couple of hours.... so I will reinstall fedora 8, because the system is really corrupted...
Alpha was very unstable thats why i never bothered with it but from what i have been reading they are fixing a lot of the bugs

[Jags_FL]

Here are the working links I have found out of 22+ Beta mirrors (as of Mar-23). I just finished downloading i386 DVD.iso

Not sure if this is "Final Beta" or not, as time stamp for the files say, Mar-19.

i386 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/fedora-redhat/releases/test/9-Beta/Fedora/i386/iso/

ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/fedora-redhat/releases/test/9-Beta/Fedora/

[pikul]

No Live CD version available from that mirror, i guess ill have to wait :)

[buchalkalan]

thanx for sharing the link.... (y)

[kevmif]

Will it be pushed out to all mirrors soon?

[Jags_FL]

On March 25, 10 AM EDT I guess... if there's no change in release date again :)

[stefan1975]

No Live CD version available from that mirror, i guess ill have to wait :)

they are there too, just another directory:

ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/fedora-redhat/releases/test/9-Beta/Live/

stefan

[leigh123linux]

wonder what the chances are of compiz0.7.2 going into Beta

They have just started doing compiz-0.7.2 for Rawhide

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=43650

[pikul]

they are there too, just another directory:

ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/fedora-redhat/releases/test/9-Beta/Live/

stefan

Cool, i missed that, thanks :D

[Demz]

Just Noticed on Koji, Compiz-Fusion0.7.2 for fc9 so looks like they'll use it in the Beta

[Gnafu the Great]

The torrents were just posted! Seed it like you mean it! Now that it's beta, we need more people running and testing it. I'm seeding it right now :D.

EDIT: Well, downloading and seeding. There aren't a lot of people connected at the moment :p.

[handy]

I'm seeding now too, just i'm in doubt of installing it. I sure want to know if the nvidia drivers will work on it.

[Gnafu the Great]

Like leigh123@linux said earlier in the thread, you would still need to downgrade to F8's X server and use a patched NVIDIA installer (to accommodate the newer kernel). Personally, I'm enjoying the nouveau driver, though it only allows for 2D acceleration. Not the best, but it's kind of nice to use completely free everything for once :P. I'm sure NVIDIA will give us something once things start getting really close to release, but I know they're hesitant while the X server is still in beta.

[handy]

Ah oke clear. I will use nouveau then. I only need the original drivers because they supported my monitor resolution where the normal drivers did not :)

[leigh123linux]

Like leigh123@linux said earlier in the thread, you would still need to downgrade to F8's X server and use a patched NVIDIA installer (to accommodate the newer kernel). Personally, I'm enjoying the nouveau driver, though it only allows for 2D acceleration. Not the best, but it's kind of nice to use completely free everything for once :P. I'm sure NVIDIA will give us something once things start getting really close to release, but I know they're hesitant while the X server is still in beta.

You also need to patch the kernel !

[Gnafu the Great]

You also need to patch the kernel !

Aah, I though you just needed to patch the installer. Well, I'm definitely not bothering with the proprietary driver until they release one that just works :p.

[AntMan]

Seeding throughout the night :cool:

[Demz]

just downloading the LiveCD now..will burn later

[bmvbab]

installed on VMware...must agree, nowadays the vmware installs have a pretty good performance.

[leigh123linux]

Just Noticed on Koji, Compiz-Fusion0.7.2 for fc9 so looks like they'll use it in the Beta

Compiz 0.7.2 was just release into the Rawhide repo :eek: ( What are those devs smoking ? , f***** load of s*** , don't they test the package before releasing them ! )

[Gnafu the Great]

Compiz 0.7.2 was just release into the Rawhide repo :eek: ( What are those devs smoking ? , f***** load of s*** , don't they test the package before releasing them ! )

Something wrong?

[leigh123linux]

Something wrong?


Yes ,


Compiz 0.7.2 wasn't ready for release ! , they should have finished it first :rolleyes: ( they are still using some of the old 0.6.0 & 0.6.2 packages which wont work with the 0.7.2 version , all the packages need to be compiled with the new 0.7.2 devels ).


Apart from that Rawhide is working great !

I decided to use my F8 compiz packages instead !


[root@localhost ~]# uname -r
2.6.25-0.150.rc6.git7.fc9
[root@localhost ~]# rpm -qa |grep compiz
compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
libcompizconfig-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compizconfig-python-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-devel-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compizconfig-backend-gconf-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-gnome-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
libcompizconfig-devel-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-bcop-0.7.3-1.fc8.noarch
compizconfig-python-devel-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
[root@localhost ~]#

[Nokia]

Logical question: How come Rawhide has to deal with 0.7.2 version while on F8 we already can use 0.7.3 when using adequate repos ?

[SlowJet]

# rpm -qa xorg-x11-s*
xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.901-10.20080314.fc9.i386
xorg-x11-server-utils-7.3-3.fc9.i386
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.901-10.20080314.fc9.i386

This is based on 1.5

[Nokia]

Sorry SlowJet, if you were addressing me I didn't understood the possible liaison between X version and compiz. I must be missing some info on the subject.

[Gnafu the Great]

Yes ,


Compiz 0.7.2 wasn't ready for release ! , they should have finished it first :rolleyes: ( they are still using some of the old 0.6.0 & 0.6.2 packages which wont work with the 0.7.2 version , all the packages need to be compiled with the new 0.7.2 devels ).


Apart from that Rawhide is working great !

I decided to use my F8 compiz packages instead !


[root@localhost ~]# uname -r
2.6.25-0.150.rc6.git7.fc9
[root@localhost ~]# rpm -qa |grep compiz
compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
libcompizconfig-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compizconfig-python-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-devel-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compizconfig-backend-gconf-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-gnome-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
libcompizconfig-devel-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
compiz-bcop-0.7.3-1.fc8.noarch
compizconfig-python-devel-0.7.3-1.fc8.x86_64
[root@localhost ~]#

You should become a package maintainer :D.

[Nokia]

I'm guessing he already is... :cool:

[Gnafu the Great]

I'm guessing he already is... :cool:

He maintains for his own repository, but I don't think he maintains for the actual Fedora Project.

[Demz]

so whats the go with Fedora 9 beta, is it stable enough to install or bothering to install, i had 7 errors in my LiveCD download an to lazy to get it again i may wait for Preview an get that

[davfel]

hi,
can someone tell me how to setup the livna-testing repo for fedora 9 please?

thanks,
dave

[Nokia]

You have no use for livna-testing. You need livna-devel.

[davfel]

and how does one install that please?

TIA
dave

[Nokia]

add --enablerepo=livna-development to yum command.

[Demz]

yum --enablerepo=livna-development

[strikeforce]

Fedora 9 is reasonably stable. At least for me it is. I'm glad none of my packages have any issues. The issues I do have relate to other packages.

All my time is spent on the docs which sadly didn't make it into the beta but should be released for F9 as an additional package (maybe).

Still worst case it'll be at docs.fp.o

Documentation should be significantly improved for install, basic user and hopefully if time permits administrators.

So that should answer a lot of questions hopefully when F9 gets released for the users and might lighten the load of this forum.

constructive criticisms always welcome btw. It's just the vast majority of comments relate to stuff we (the docs project) can't document.

[zeiz]

I downloaded Fedora 9 Beta from distrowatch.com (they have a review and the link)