What mp3 player works good with linux?

[TechDragon]

what mp3 player works good wiht linux? I like the creative, but sansa has a wifi one. I own a zune and am not having much luck with it.

[Firewing1]

Thread title edited for typo and capitalization

I had a Creative Muvo that worked very well in Linux, definitely don't buy an iPod if you're looking for Linux support since the newer ones have to be cracked or jailbroken to work properly.
Firewing1

[tw2113]

cowon iaudio products work decently for me. If anything it'll get mounted like a storage device and you can copy over. Haven't really bothered trying to find an app that would help automate stuff though.

[Gnafu the Great]

I would second Cowon's products, especially because a majority of their players support Ogg Vorbis and FLAC :D. They tend to have really go features and battery life for the money :).

[kona0197]

I find it funny that Zune is listed. Being that it's made by a company everyone here says is evil.

[bob]

So's the Ipod! Bet neither one works out of the box.

[kona0197]

No the Ipod doesn't. Been there tried that.

[scotta3234]

I've had no headaches with my creative Zen Vision M series. Everything works great using Gnomad, even things like data transfers.

[craftyminion]

iRiver has always been the best for me. Though I had luck with a little Creative 128Mb number some years back.

The Crafty One

[forkbomb]

Zunes and iPods alike are overpriced yet very good, but...

I have a Sansa here. Works great out of box on Linux with no hacking (unless you count changing one setting in the main options menu as hacking). Works better out of box than it does in Windows in my experience.

I have this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855125012
Great player. I have a 2GB M-SD card in it for some extra capacity. Might seem like a high price but my dad got a steal on it at a local radio shack and gave me one for a birthday.

Never does any skipping or anything weird like that, but it does often have to recheck the internal DB when powered on for some reason. I recharge it maybe once a week, if that, and listen using it quite a bit.

[cable_txg]

cowon iaudio products work decently for me. If anything it'll get mounted like a storage device and you can copy over. Haven't really bothered trying to find an app that would help automate stuff though.

Hi, I just can't seem to find where to buy one here in the US. Any one know of an online retailer or offline store? It looks good and I want to switch from Zune.

:)

[cable_txg]

I find it funny that Zune is listed. Being that it's made by a company everyone here says is evil.

They are evil I say, evil; you watch out for them, come creeping at night and .... snatch yar pretty wallet n charge yar a fee too.... soooo much evil :D

[Gnafu the Great]

Hi, I just can't seem to find where to buy one here in the US. Any one know of an online retailer or offline store? It looks good and I want to switch from Zune.

:)

Amazon.com has quite a few.

[leadgolem]

I'm using a sansa e250 and my experience mirrors tjvanwyk. I would also mention that I did modify my firmware. I replaced the stock firmware with rockbox (http://www.rockbox.org/). Though that is not necessary to get it to work. For the features listed, I'll probably go with a cowon next time though.

[kona0197]

Linux users using MS products. Everything but Windows.

And they wonder where MS gets it's money to spread FUD against Linux...

[Bslagowski]

Notice the MS product has zero votes. ;)

[dubb]

i dont use either one. i have a treo 680 with an 8gb sd.

[cable_txg]

Amazon.com has quite a few.

Covers, accessories etc, but no iaudio x5! :(

[Gnafu the Great]

I don't think they make the X5 anymore. Check out http://www.cowonamerica.com/ :).

EDIT: Err, I'm not sure. But anyway, they have a lot of other great players to check out, and Amazon.com has some of them.

[RJFUatHOME]

I have to admit I have been looking at the iAudio7 model lately. I have a Meizu 4 gig and an older iRiver 1 gig.

I don't really care about mp3 as long as they support ogg vorbis.

[cable_txg]

I finally found one iAudio X5 (not black :( ) from ebay with the remote - almost US $350 ! Ouch!
But I can't wait to get it next week.... :D

[RupertPupkin]

I use a Neuros II 80GB MP3 player. It play Ogg Vorbis files too, which is good since that's what format my music collection is in. :) And the music sync software works natively in Linux.

[cable_txg]

Anyone in NZ? I really need the remote and would pay via paypal to be shipped to US. Pleeeeasseeee....... <sob sob sob> :(

[Admins/Support]
I need more smiley icons (what an understatement in my case!)

[tw2113]

I got my X5 on amazon.com for about $200 USD. However, from what I've read, that model is no longer being made and they are making something more modern.

X7 is the predecessor.

[cable_txg]

Sad thing, the newer models are not feature rich or well made compared to their predecessors (iaudio x5 compared to its' successors). It's the same business tactic used by most companies, an example is the Iriver H??? Compare the feature set of older models to newer models, the older ones are a whole lot better. :)

[cable_txg]

:) I just received the m5L (Thought it was the X5! - still sounds great!) loving it and going to buy the colored version - works great on fedora too! :D

[kevin tough]

Out of the box and in minutes playing Ogg. I am living in Germany and the only players in the local stores suggesting they support OGG are from Samsung. I have returned the T10 and a YP-K3. What Ogg they support is not the format Grip rips. Also, drag and drop, forget it, they are not even seen by the file manager.

I ordered a Meizu player that didn't kill my budget and it is Linux friendly. Support one of the few manufactures that allows you to use Linux with such great little player.

Meizu all the way!!

Kevin Tough

[Omega Blue]

Linux users using MS products. Everything but Windows.

And they wonder where MS gets it's money to spread FUD against Linux...

From Windows users, of course :D

[kona0197]

My whole point was that a person can not say he dislikes MS but still use MS products. Very counter productive.

[forkbomb]

My whole point was that a person can not say he dislikes MS but still use MS products. Very counter productive.

We know, Kona. You troll that point across the board incessantly. We get it already.

[kona0197]

Well then quit complaing about MS while typing on a MS keyboard and I'll be happy.

By the way my constant comments about this subject are not trolling. You guys talk about beer in almost every thread - should I say that is trolling as it is brought up all the time?

[bob]

MS makes beer? Somebody mention Beer? (typed on a Dell keyboard that I snagged from my wife's machine)

[kona0197]

You guys wouldn't discuss beer or alcohol if you had lost a loved one to alcohol.

Leigh you really take things to far. I'm surprised no one has called you on it.

Oh and by the way I don't pick fights. I'm simply defending my choice of what OS I use as you all like to criticize my choice and call Windows a crappy OS.

Leigh just put me on ignore like Wayne has. That would solve our issues for now.

[craftyminion]

We know, Kona. You troll that point across the board incessantly. We get it already.

QFT.

The Crafty One

[kona0197]

Why should I when you all are the ones that make fun of my choice? Are you saying I can't defend myself? Are you saying I have to use Fedora to hang out here?

Is this not Wibble?

I would suggest you calm down Leigh.

[kona0197]

OK Leigh you are right. I will take my Windows comments elsewhere.

I apologize to you and the good people here. I was out of line.

No need to ban me I will not step out of line again.

[bob]

I had already issued the ban, since I didn't find the humor in it. Status returned to normal since it's resolved.

[forkbomb]

This is a Linux forum and we are free to call windows s*** if we want to !! ( If you don't like it sod off :p ).

I am also sick of you picking fights ! :(

That's just it - there's a big difference between "defending one's choice of OS" as Kona claims to be doing (and Kona you know I'm not "mocking" your choice of OS when I've admitted a thousand times I use Windows) and picking fights on dozens of threads in Wibble that remotely mention Windows, orange juice, breakfast sausage, battles of the American civil War, Microsoft, beer, bowling, Greek philosophers, midget porn, and/or the ethics of recycling toilet paper.

Kona picks fights.

Edit: ah, didn't see that I guess a ban has been handed out?

[bob]

It's lifted.

[kona0197]

Kona picks fights.

Not anymore.

[Nokia]

Greeks philosophers used Windows afaik...

[Zero-Override]

i have a creative Zen V 4gb (i hate the bloody thing but it does what it's supposed to) i used to have a 30gb ipod video (which i LOVED, though i don't like apple products in general, to bad the battery fried when i tried to help someone :( )

i don't like the libmtp stuff i need for the Zen, and loved the way Fedora handled my Ipod :) so my vote goes out to Ipod ;)

[GallComp]

Well, even I am a little bit late here are a few toughts of what happened before...

You are all free to use whatever OS you can run in your systems, the staff of FF will never impose the use of linux to join and participate in the community. But at the same time WE are a linux based community and most of the members hate the Microsoft Windows OS, that is their choice and it is respected.

Its not logical to hardcore "defend" the OS that mostly everyone hates in this place, it is like going to a police station and start screaming "I love burglers, leave them alone!". Doing so, in a constant way will only create resentment and eventually will get that member banned.

Ironically, I am a hardcore Windows user and do not use any kind of Linux distribution, but I DO know the place where I am and keep my opinions about MY choice private, why? Because this is not the place to do it. If I want to praise Windows I will go to a Windows Forum, if I want to read about how hard is to use Fedora and the lack of codecs, and the unstable kernels, and how almost imposibe is to get the iPod to work, ... I will stick to this place... :D

Cheers from IE7 and Windows Vista...

[bob]

Gee, IE7! I'm hoping to check that out on the business Windows box...just as soon as the shop gets done reinstalling XP to clear out the additional 14 trojans, multiple viruses and spyware that have infected it and blocked any updates. Yep, ease of Ipod's a major concern these days... :D

(As stated in a couple of other threads, I've taken over a box that was never secured and didn't even have a current AV program. Sadly, this is the machine we accessed the business checking and savings accounts with. Nobody's fault - just not 'puter literate folks involved).

But even so, we can all be free to express our preferences, whether for another distro, another OS or whatever. Just be good natured enough to realize that your opinions are going to be in the minority around here and that a bit of kidding is bound to happen.

[fluxam]

I think that any player that has been Rockboxed should be usable with Linux.
Go look around rockbox.org forums/

[forkbomb]

I think that any player that has been Rockboxed should be usable with Linux.
Go look around rockbox.org forums/
I would think that players with flash memory in general will be the best bets. Depending on how they're formatted, they should be mountable as standard drives, right?

Or not? Maybe I'm way off base, but with my Sansa I just mount it as a generic flash volume. Formatted as VFAT, though.

[leadgolem]

I think that any player that has been Rockboxed should be usable with Linux.
Go look around rockbox.org forums/If I'm not mistaken installing rockbox requires access to the players root directory. If you can do that, you should be able to work the player without rockbox...

Also, who jacked with the poll and for what reason? Anybody with half a brain knows a microsoft product is unlikely to work correctly in linux.

[addthefandr]

I just put Rockbox on my iPod Nano 2GB 1st generation and it works great. Finally got drag and drop functionality.

No problems installing it either as long as it's windows formated(actually restoring it in itunes for windows)

As for working a player like the ipod without rockbox with just access to the root directory, it's a no go.

The ipod now supports OGG and FLAC, however it doesn't play AAC music bought from iTunes. You can also play Doom along with some other games on it if that is something that interests you.

As for the actual functionality out of the box I'd have to say it sux. Gtkpod is okay but a wee bit to "messy" for my taste. The thing about ipods is the control button. I just love the way it works. With rockbox it gets

[addthefandr]

Sorry boys and girls. Managed to tap the touch pad with my thumb.

What I was going to say was that the menus in rockbox are bit annoying compared to the way apple had it set up. Still worth a try for all those ipod owners out there.

[JohnBailey]

A vote for Cowon from me. Just bought a nice little D2. MP3, Ogg, and even Flac if you want. Very happy user. Using a standard mini USB connector is also a distinct plus. One less cable to keep track of :D

It also plays videos (resized and resampled in AVIdemux thanks to a video on Youtube explaining the settings), and flash games.

Works perfectly with Linux, displaying the album art and sorting the ID3 tags properly. The only thing that doesn't seem to work is the lyric feature, which as I understand it, is a Cowon specific format which needs the management software to download, and is not very well supported.

Amarok handles both internal and external storage no problem.

[linux_paul]

Shopping for a new one to replace a creative zen micro that still works fine, after repairing the headphone jack.

Do any of the other players support video playback in Linux?
What program(s) do you use to format and transfer to the player?

[JohnBailey]

Shopping for a new one to replace a creative zen micro that still works fine, after repairing the headphone jack.

Do any of the other players support video playback in Linux?
What program(s) do you use to format and transfer to the player?

The D2 does video just fine. It is a bit fussy about the specifications of the video. I use a program I got for my N800 under Wine. Set it to do 4:3 and it works like a charm.

http://xoomer.alice.it/sepaolo/n800vc/

AVIdemux works too. there is a tutorial on how to do it on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSmc-C0q0WU

[linux_paul]

I have a Sansa here. Works great out of box on Linux with no hacking (unless you count changing one setting in the main options menu as hacking). Works better out of box than it does in Windows in my experience.

Do you use your SanDisk Sansa e260 for video?
I'm considering getting one and I wondered how do you encode it?

[forkbomb]

Do you use your SanDisk Sansa e260 for video?
I'm considering getting one and I wondered how do you encode it?

No, I don't use it for video (I find it silly to watch video on such a small screen :rolleyes: ), but I believe you have to use Sansa's encoding software to put it into their proprietary format. I doubt said software is available Linux-native.

[leadgolem]

If it's the same as my e250 then that would be correct. However the e260 should also be rockbox compatible, which gives you more options.

[Driftwould]

I know this kind of an old thread but since I'm looking for a hard drive player. I was looking at the thread.

I'm a little surprised iriver and cowon are not on the poll. I own an iriver T10 and clix2 which are flash players. They both are auto detected in F9. But I really like the T10 it shows up in Rhythmnbox and just works.

Finding a hard drive player that I like with docking station accessories is proving to be hard to find. I don't want to have to use wine and most of my music is in ogg vorbis. So the ipod classic and zune seem to be out. The Sansa View looked like it might be interesting but it doesn't seem linux or ogg friendly at all, but I think they are working on a rockbox port. So for now I'll just hold off and see what else comes out.

[kona0197]

How ironic is it that most Linux users dislike M$ yet they support M$ by using a Zune...

[forkbomb]

How ironic is it that most Linux users dislike M$ yet they support M$ by using a Zune...

So which one of you miscreant admins has been cooking the numbers again!? :p

[trigpoint]

Personally I don't like carrying lots of devices around with me.

I find the best solution to be to use a mobile phone.

My N95 appears as a USB mass storage device to linux,and I carry it everywhere. Holds 8GB of data.

[Driftwould]

Yes it seems like I'm carrying more and more stuff. A few years ago I noticed alot of people in Japan and South Korea using their phones as music players on the trains.

[Driftwould]

Just out of curiosity, are there any mobile phones that support ogg vorbis. Most of my music is ogg, so for me no ogg support on a device is a deal breaker.

[The New World]

Just out of curiosity, are there any mobile phones that support ogg vorbis. Most of my music is ogg, so for me no ogg support on a device is a deal breaker.
Yes I would like ogg compatibility with mobile phones, if I want to transfer music I have to go through soundconverter to change to mp3

On about mp3 players I up to recently used a little IRiver H10 jr (1GB) but I just picked up a Cowon D2 4GB thingy both with ogg support :cool:

[trigpoint]

Just out of curiosity, are there any mobile phones that support ogg vorbis. Most of my music is ogg, so for me no ogg support on a device is a deal breaker.

There are free players available for Symbian S60 devices, such as the Nokia N95. :cool:

[kona0197]

My phone can hold up to 4 GB of music if I use a 4 GB card. Right now I have a 1 GB card on there with around 120 songs on there. I have a LG 8350.

[prijikn]

Creative is good with linux . It doesn't matter what operating system you use, it is really easy.

[Beaker01]

There are free players available for Symbian S60 devices, such as the Nokia N95. :cool:

I find OggPlay (http://symbianoggplay.sourceforge.net/) [sourceforge.net] works pretty well on Symbian S60 v3 (Nokia E65). It also plays flac for extra audio goodness. :)

Andy

[linux_paul]

The Insignia Pilot works great (drag-and-drop), video can be encoded with mencoder, and playlists created with EasyTAG. What more could I ask for?

[D2K]

I just bought my step dad a little insignia mp3 player and pretty much faster then I could plug in the sucker it was already on my desktop. Gota say the insignia works very good with fedora or any *nix for that matter. I on the other hand (of course this is my luck) have a Sansa View 8 gig and it has took a little tweaking to get up in running but it was the same with ubuntu also. Both work great I gota say IMO the Insignia just seems to be more plug-n-play :)

[Demz]

My phone can hold up to 4 GB of music if I use a 4 GB card. Right now I have a 1 GB card on there with around 120 songs on there. I have a LG 8350.
May aswell buy a Ipod, i barely carry a Mobile around with me now so i have no use to Put Music on my phone

[YeOK]

I had an Ipod nano. It was a replacement for a first or second series ipod. I gotta say it was nasty. Apple have really messed it up. In the end I sold it.

The first series would just mount on the desktop, drag and drop. The new nano on the other hand tries to lock you into itunes. As someone who still buys CD albums, I refuse to use that rubbish.

After looking at the polls, and wanting a new mp3 player. Is the Zune actually any better, or has the poll seen an unfair bias. I want to simply plug my mp3 player in, drag and drop the music. No hacking, no fixes. Will the Zune do that?

[JN4OldSchool]

I had an Ipod nano. It was a replacement for a first or second series ipod. I gotta say it was nasty. Apple have really messed it up. In the end I sold it.

The first series would just mount on the desktop, drag and drop. The new nano on the other hand tries to lock you into itunes. As someone who still buys CD albums, I refuse to use that rubbish.

After looking at the polls, and wanting a new mp3 player. Is the Zune actually any better, or has the poll seen an unfair bias. I want to simply plug my mp3 player in, drag and drop the music. No hacking, no fixes. Will the Zune do that?


Dude! Get the Zune! ;)

[YeOK]

Dude! Get the Zune! ;)

Your advice is noted. Zune it is! :p

[kona0197]

Buying a MS product? Isn't that a conflict of interest? :confused: :)

[Demz]

Buying a MS product? Isn't that a conflict of interest? :confused: :)
just because we are Linux users an Buy the Zune, there is no need to get sarcastic

[kona0197]

I'm sorry you thought I was being sarcastic. I wasn't. That's why I used a smiley.

I just find it a bit curious that we talk about how evil MS is and how bad Windows is yet we buy MS products. It's a simple point really.

Just an opinion. Thanks. :)

[Demz]

we are all entitled to our opinions, its as simple as this, why do People Dualboot, ,but at the end of the day, its just a Mp3 Player we're buying from M$$ not there OS ,

[Evil_Bert]

I just find it a bit curious that we talk about how evil MS is and how bad Windows is yet we buy MS products.
Who's this we, pale face?*




* (It's an old Lone Ranger joke ...)

[YeOK]

Buying a MS product? Isn't that a conflict of interest? :confused: :)

Your going to wet your pants now, because I own a Microsoft Xbox 360 and just the other week, I bought a Microsoft Comfort Optical 3000 mouse.

:eek:

No conflict of interest though, I just don't like Windows. In fact, the only company I will never buy from again, is Apple.

[kona0197]

Well don't complain about MS business practices or money then. It seems you are helping them attain their goal of desktop domination by giving the beast money. :) :)

[YeOK]

Well don't complain about MS business practices or money then. It seems you are helping them attain their goal of desktop domination by giving the beast money. :) :)

I'm simply not even going to bother arguing with you. I like this forum and would like to remain unbanned. However, I will complain about anything I like.

[Demz]

Well don't complain about MS business practices or money then. It seems you are helping them attain their goal of desktop domination by giving the beast money. :) :)
at the end of the day, its just a Game console he has an the Optical Mouse/Keyboard ,, even i paid M$$ $700 for Vista Ultimate, i wont be getting another M$ OS

[kona0197]

So it's OK to give a monopolistic company money to continue their desktop domination and dirty tricks as long as we don't buy Windows? You can't have it both ways...

[Demz]

i think this topic on M$$ is enough kona, your only gonna start a fight an end up getting yourself banned in the process

[kona0197]

Sorry Demz. I just find it ironic that we bad mouth and slander MS and Windows all day yet in the end we support MS.

I'm done. Thanks.

[Demz]

thanks kona,... now can we get back on topic

[LossLess]

Hey, everyone. Considering that sound quality is very important to a lot of people, and becoming more important to the "average" listener as more and more people get into digital music, does anyone have an opinion on the usability of some of the higher fidelity portable players out there with Linux distros?

The two players I have in mind are Sony's Walkman Video and the Cowon iAudio D2.

[JordanN]

I am a Samsung U3 that works OK if I use gnomad.

[sailor]

I look for mp3 players that allow me to load whatever I want on them....I got a cheap no name player that sounded great once I bought some good earphones/buds. I bought Irivers for my kids.

[RupertPupkin]

I never use earbuds with my portable mp3/ogg player. Those things are terrible for your ears. I use AKG K26P (http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:AKG%20Acoustics%20K26P%20Headphones:1992943007) headphones. They're light, foldable and small enough to fit in your pocket. Your hearing is too important to throw away, best not to go cheap on it.