Big mistake!

[Wayne]

Now, I usually yum update from a Terminal, excluding the xorg-x11-drv-ati video driver for Fedora 8 as it was originally so borked it wouldn't find a screen and just die.... but today, foolishly, I tried PuP, which I haven't used for a long time, but forgot to uncheck the aforementioned driver in the package selection list. I got a bit of a surprise after a reboot :eek: (updated dbus) The update actually loaded a desktop this time, but all the colours were weird, really 60's psychedelic! Bit of a hard time squinting at the screen to remove the offending driver and download the one I was using from Fedora 7 updates :eek: Back to 'normal' now!

Now I remember why I use a Terminal :)

Wayne

[Dies]

PUP sucks.

So does Pirut, though it's gotten better.

Can't wait for this

http://www.packagekit.org/

I mean it can't be any worse than our defaults now, right? :D

[Wayne]

I can't really blame PuP, it was my own fault for just clicking 'OK' when I should have been looking at what I was doing :)

Wayne

[Iron_Mike]

I don't quite remember but open a terminal window change to root and type:

system-config-display --reconfigure

or

system-config-display --reconfig

and it will reset Xorg.conf back to the initial version when installing F8

[Wayne]

Oh, no, xorg.conf wasn't changed. I just let the fc7 video driver (that works) I was using get overwritten by an fc8 updated driver (that's still broken) All I needed to do was remove the 'new' driver and replace it with the old one.

Actually, there's a newer fc8 driver in updates-testing, which I'm going to give a try, but with a copy of the working driver on my desktop just in case :)

Edit: Nope, still broken and my bug report from December is still open and assigned!

Wayne

[Iron_Mike]

Gotcha....

[Wayne]

This driver problem has been an ongoing saga since F8 was released :eek: This thread is about my absentmindedness though :) I suppose if I were into psychedelia the desktop wouldn't be so bad :p

Wayne

[joe.pelayo]

PUP sucks.

So does Pirut, though it's gotten better.

Can't wait for this

http://www.packagekit.org/

I mean it can't be any worse than our defaults now, right? :D
I don't find pup & pirut that bad, but I prefer YUMEX. Pirut seems to be too dumbed down (Ubuntu style) and pup doesn't display detailed progress.

Obviously the command line is even better but for not experts, YUMEX is quite good enough.

Thanks.
Joe.

[Demz]

PUP sucks.

So does Pirut, though it's gotten better.

Can't wait for this

http://www.packagekit.org/

I mean it can't be any worse than our defaults now, right? :D
im suprised they havent pushed Packagekit into FC8 Updates-testing, there are packagekit rpm's on the packagekit website

http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/fedora/

[Dies]

I don't find pup & pirut that bad, but I prefer YUMEX. Pirut seems to be too dumbed down (Ubuntu style) and pup doesn't display detailed progress.

Obviously the command line is even better but for not experts, YUMEX is quite good enough.

Thanks.
Joe.

I don't install third party package managers anymore, I did try them all, and Yumex is OK, but now I just stick to the defaults or command line, mostly command line.

And after having done that for a while I can definitely say that they suck. PUP sucks because it's slow and crash-prone. The Ubuntu update applet, not sure if it's related to PUP in any way, seems to be much, much smoother and smarter. Maybe we were careless and dropped our PUP on it's head? :D

Pirut sucks because it lists package versions that won't install :confused:
How stupid is that?

It's also stupid the way it reloads everytime whether it's actually needed or not.

And aside from being able to enable/disable repos on the fly it has no other useful options. No re-install option, no option to fix broken packages, doesn't show orphans, etc, etc.

I wish it really were as "dumbed down" as Synaptic, that would be great. ;)