Fedora 9 Alpha KDE 4 Very Slow, Unresponsive & NO Shutdown Option, Internet Down !!

[Jags_FL]

hi Everyone

a Linux and Fedora newbie here.

1, Just installed Fedora 9 Alpha (using i386 DVD) and the first thing I've noticed is, KDE 4 is very slow and unresponsive. (I had the same experience with KDE 4 in Kubuntu 8.04 Alpha 4)


2, In KDE 4, when I click > Leave > Shutdown > the screen turns blue to black and stays at "Logout" or "Cancel"


3, Also there's NO shutdown option in GNOME (using > Terminal > poweroff for now). Under "System" I can ONLY "Log Out" no option to shut down / restart.


4, Internet is not working either. At the system boot I get this:

:::::::::::::::
ipv6tables: Applying firewall rules. ip6tables-restore v1.3.8: unknown
error occured at line: 8

try 'ip6tables-restore -h' or 'ip6tables-restore --help' for more info.
[FAILED]

bringing up loopback interface. RTNETLINK answers. Invalid argument.

Failed to bring up lo. [FAILED]

Bringing up interface eth0:
Determining IP information for eth0... done. [ OK ]
:::::::::::::::


5, Also during installation I didn't get any option to create username either so I'm logging in as root only. (installation did ask to create a password for root though)

I guess I can create username now but I'm wondering did anything go wrong during installation or what? (I haven't got any error message during or after installation)

As previously, Fedora 8 installer did ask to create user name & pass during installation and the Internet was working right after installation too.

nVidia was detected by the installer and it sounds working alright.

Machine: P4 2.8 GHz, 2.0 GB RAM, 128 MB nVIDIA GeForce 5200.

I didn't get any problem / errors during my previous installations of Fedora 8 on the same machine. And KDE 3.5.8 worked like a charm.

( I can just re-installed Fedora 8 but I'm trying to solve these problems and learn some Linux in the process)

Any help is highly appreciated, thanks a million in advance.

- Jags

[Demz]

did you update to KDE4.0.1?

[stevea]

You really don't need to post these reports here. F9 won't be released till April.

What you are apparently running are the post F8 development updates.(rawhide). These are notoriously buggy, and problematic and no one on this forum is likely to provide much useful help with these. They are there for developers and testers to use and report back on. You should read and perhaps post on the developers/testers list.

[Jags_FL]

Demz

Many thanks for your reply.

Internet is down so, I'm not able to update KDE to 4.0.1

And besides KDE, even in GNOME rest of the problems are still there ( No internet, NO Shutdown option, etc..)

Thanks again,

- Jags

[Jags_FL]

thanks " stevea "

Is there any separate forum / sub forum for Fedora 9 Alpha ? ( like Kubuntuforums ? They have many forums and sub forums for different releases and development builds... )

[rjstaaf]

You really don't need to post these reports here. F9 won't be released till April.

What you are apparently running are the post F8 development updates.(rawhide). These are notoriously buggy, and problematic and no one on this forum is likely to provide much useful help with these. They are there for developers and testers to use and report back on. You should read and perhaps post on the developers/testers list.

Actually stevea he is running F9 Alpha which was released yesterday.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Schedule

[Demz]

report the bugs to http://redhat.bugzilla.org/ an join the fedora-Testing-list http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing

https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list

[Jags_FL]

I've just finished installing Fedora 9 Alpha (from i386 DVD) third time.

This time I did NOT selected KDE installation ( at Customization) during setup. I want to use only GNOME in order to avoid Slow KDE 4.0.

Installation went ok, without any error message though I'm still having few problems:

1, Installation didn't ask to create username, which usually every Linux distributions I've tried including Fedora 8 + Solaris 10 + Windows Vista, asks during or after installations. (I did create user after log in a s a root)

2, In GNOME under the System menu > I get only "Log Out" option. No option to shutdown / restart. ( this was the case with KDE 4 during my previous installations of F 9 Alpha)

3, I have to "Activate" ethernet card / networking in order to use Internet after each boot.
[ System > Administration > Network > Network Configuration > "eth0" status is "Inactive" > after clicking green "Activate" button > Internet works just fine ]

During system boot I do see this message:

Determining IP information for for eth0... cp: cannot remove '/etc/resolv.conf.predhclient' permission denied.
Done. [OK]

I don't know if that message have anything to do with "activation" of ethernet card after each boot.


I'm posting this here to see if anyone else is having similar problems. ( I did post above in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ already )

Thanks guys

[nick.stumpos]

its an alpha release its bound to be slow and broke, if your looking for something more stable i would suggest you get fedora 8.

[Jags_FL]

Thanks " Nickisgod1 "

but I'm not looking for stable version as I'm installing all these ( Fedora 9 Alpha, OpenSUSE 11 Alpha 2, Solaris 10 Dev Edition etc... ) on a extra / experimental computer in order to learn Linux + Solaris.

I just reported these bugs / problems so some one at developer level take notice of it and fix 'em in stable release.

- Jags

[kristizz]

To be honest you'd be far better off learning about linux in a stable environment-less time spent on bugs, more time spent on understanding things as they should work

[snoze]

Just finshed fresh fedora 9 install(beta).. Gosh!!! KDE is very slow.. I am using 256MB graphics card from ATI and 4GB ram. gnome is running like ben johnson but kde is like somebody trying to run linux first time in DOS :mad: Even the firfox is terribly slow and sufing icon list simply poor. GUI interface of KDE looks good but I think they should stick it to FC8 kde. My conclusion after woking three days on new Fedora 9

Gnome 100% performance
KDE 10% performance.

[Jags_FL]

hi snoze

I'm sure many of the KDE 4 bugs would be fixed by Apr-29,'08 (F9 Final release) but after using KDE 4 / 4.0.2 with many distros ( Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy, OpenSUSE 11 Beta, Mandriva 2008.1 Spring and Fedora 9 Beta of course) I have stopped using it. Infact I don't even install KDE 4/3 when I do any new installation.

GNOME 2.22 works just fine for me and it seems alottt faster than KDE 4 / 4.0.2 and I'm sure there're many who feels otherwise.

[marko]

Remember, in Beta's there's lots of debugging and trap symbols compiled into
the code. I've been seeing people talking about KDE4 and FF3B* being
slower and using more memory than the hype about them. But remember
they don't strip out the extra stuff until the final version goes out,
we won't really see kde4 and FF3 at their full speed and smallest RAM usage
until the official ones come out.

[Jags_FL]

But then "Beta" thing (slower/buggy) should apply to GNOME too, right ?

Because I do not see / find buggy / slower GNOME 2.22 in any of the "Betas" I have tried so far (OpenSUSE Factory, Mandriva 2008.1 Spring, F9 etc...)

But thats my take and as I said earlier, I'm sure many / most would feel otherwise.

- Jags


Remember, in Beta's there's lots of debugging and trap symbols compiled into
the code. I've been seeing people talking about KDE4 and FF3B* being
slower and using more memory than the hype about them. But remember
they don't strip out the extra stuff until the final version goes out,
we won't really see kde4 and FF3 at their full speed and smallest RAM usage
until the official ones come out.

[marko]

Yeah, but Gnome 2.22 isn't a total redo of Gnome, it just another update of
Gnome, KDE4 is a nearly total rewrite.