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16th June 2004, 05:38 AM
What app will be the first to Linux, as online music is begining to kick off, and just wondering whether apple or microsoft will try and get the linux community??
It is important for me as i love music, and whoever supports linux will get my vote! At the momment the current players allow you to play music, but not download legal music.
16th June 2004, 06:22 AM
i don't think it's gonna happen any time soon. there's questionable license issues with wma, acc and mp3. the first one to resolve that will be the first one to market.
personally, i think musicmatch should make it's way back into linux. they've got an online music store as well.
17th June 2004, 10:04 AM
just my .02
not being a linux programmer I'm not sure but my guess would be that Apple is already the closest... OS X is based on BSD and while BSD code wont always or reliably (from what I remember, been know to be wrong) porting the BDSish code of iTunes should be an easier job than the one M$ is looking at (if they even are... sincerly doubt it, at least at the mid - top planning levels).
iTunes was the better product (I feel) and before I switched it was my music player of choice on windows. (Plus having drivers ...hopefully open sourced... for an iPod would be great. Im not up to speed on the latest linux and iPod compatability issues, but when I was looking for a Mp3 player none seemed to have straight forward linux support.)
just .02 coming from someone who has been know to be wrong
5th July 2004, 12:46 PM
So itunes and wmp are not on Linux, so what alternatives are there, considering i have over 10 gig of music in wma format, and can't get rhythmbox to play wma.
Any thoughts on this.
5th July 2004, 01:38 PM
Mplayer is a video player that plays all kind of formats including wma. RPM is available from freshrpms.net.
There should be an xmms-aac plugin somewhere on freshrpms as well. I don't know if it will play iTunes files.
5th July 2004, 04:59 PM
There's also a WMA plug-in for XMMS - I think Dag's got that one...
6th July 2004, 02:13 AM
I have a plugin that makes xmms a frontend for mplayer, which allows me to play movies and music through xmms. However if any of you guys have used itunes, wmp or rhythmnbox, you will not it has a library feature where u can find songs. I was wondering if there is anything like this in Linux.
if not what are the channels to go through about starting a project like this.
6th July 2004, 11:14 AM
Before this conversation goes any further I just wanted to make a point about your first post. Winamp and iTunes are closed source proprietory pieces of software and are not in any way true free software (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html). Apple currently distributes its iTunes software "free" to windows users as a way of helping them to peddle both the music on their (admitedly rather good) iTunes (http://www.itunes.com) and to support the market for their iPod music players. Whereas Winamp is an advertisement of sorts to encourage you to buy the "pro" version. Winamp is also named Win(dows)Amp(lifier) - and so unlikely to suddenly become Linamp. ;)
You are unlikely to be seeing either application running natively on linux any time soon. But as scoob_e points out, you are more likely to see iTunes appearing on Linux natively, due to the nature of the iTunes store and similarity between the OS X environment and Linux. (Both are unix like operating systems).
I'd also like to point out that there is virtually no chance that Microsoft will start developing software for Linux. Especially as Microsoft spends so much time spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt about Linux. Microsoft sees Linux as a threat, and it will not do anything to help prop it up.
There is a commercial (as in you have to pay $40 for it) program known as Crossover Office (http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products/), that is based upon Wine (http://www.winehq.org) which is working towards letting you use Winamp and iTunes in Linux. But support is not going to be there for a few months at least. In the mean time I recommend that you try using XMMS with the plugins suggested by people in this thread. If you have any further questions then I recommend that you ask them in the support forums.
6th July 2004, 12:32 PM
You are unlikely to be seeing either application running natively on windows any time soon.
"running natively on Linux"
There is a commercial (as in you have to pay $40 for it)...
Corrected formatting is:
There is a commercial (as in you have to pay $40 for it) program known as Crossover Office (http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products)
Sorry, Ug - but you dropped the closing "url" tag which made it look like Wine was the commercial product! :eek:
6th July 2004, 08:39 PM
Thats not looking quite like what it should be looking like. I'll correct it. :D
7th July 2004, 01:47 AM
Has anyone had any luck using rhythmnbox with files other than ogg or mp3. As Rhythmbox does what i need, but it doesn't support any other apps. I tried compiling with xine and gstreamer, both had error!
7th July 2004, 02:30 AM
Like I said riogrande100 ask for help in the support forums. Not in a general chat forum.
7th July 2004, 06:01 AM
I think M player could be refined and made a really sleek piece of software. Right now i just find it kind of bloated. Maybe give it a trimming down, streamline it, and it could be awesome. If not, i think I tunes will be next, probably shortly followed by Musicmatch. My guess
7th July 2004, 02:23 PM
I reckon' Rythmbox is sweet, although there was no support for my WMA's I just converted them to OGG. Rythmbox is based on iTunes, and has done a pretty good job! :):):)
7th July 2004, 02:41 PM
i think realplayer has taken the firt step....just check out the helix community by realplayer...which i think is cool.....
and zinf also has a very nice player, it tags music...it takes you to a website where you can download music and many skins for the player....
7th July 2004, 04:55 PM
itunes on linux maybe :p
7th July 2004, 09:31 PM
friez you haven't got the proper syntax for the url's right. They should be like this [ url= ] <text> [/ url ]. We don't allow HTML.
7th July 2004, 09:32 PM
I think M player could be refined and made a really sleek piece of software. Right now i just find it kind of bloated. Maybe give it a trimming down, streamline it, and it could be awesome. If not, i think I tunes will be next, probably shortly followed by Musicmatch. My guessYou can already get Musicmatch for Linux.
9th July 2004, 03:30 AM
Musicmatch is no longer available for linux due to low response:
Would've been nice, though. Still, XMMS with Madman is a pretty good combo.
9th July 2004, 08:10 AM
:p sorry for the error
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