FC9 by mistake??!!

[orsula]

I am pretty embarrassed by this but..
I accidentlaly had the development repo enabled and got a message about an update. I blindly accepted it and got loaded with a new F9 kernel, X11 and a host of other things.
Problem is , after I had my F8 up and running smoothly on my D630 laptop, I have a million troubles now. The nvidia driver won't install for some missing kernel headings, the usb mouse is just dead, there something new from Mozilla (Minefield) acting like a Firefox beta 3 and who knows what else. Since this was all a big mistake and once F9 stable is out I will be a loyal follower, I kindly ask for help to go back to my previous state with F8 and kernel 2.6.23.
I tried to simply boot (in GRUB) to the old kernel, but I still get what looks like a new Gnome session, the nvidia still is out for lunch, mouse is gone, no firefox 2 etc...

Could some one please point me in the right direction.
Thank you very much,
:(

[JN4OldSchool]

:( I have always been curious as to how one gets out of this fix myself. I truly wish yum had a downgrade option...

[orsula]

Exactly. If I could only get my mouse back it would be great. Could you please let me know what your
/etc/modprobe.conf has in terms of usb.
Is it something like:
alias usb-controller1 usb-uhci

thanks

[JN4OldSchool]

hmmm..."alias scsi_hostadapter3 usb-storage" is as close as I get. Here is the whole file:

alias eth0 forcedeth
alias scsi_hostadapter libata
alias scsi_hostadapter1 sata_nv
alias scsi_hostadapter2 pata_amd
alias scsi_hostadapter3 usb-storage
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-intel8x0 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-mpu401
options snd-card-1 index=1
options snd-mpu401 index=1

[orsula]

probably not what I need but thanks anyhow.

[bob]

Actually, there is a yum 'allowdowngrade' plugin: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/SoftwareManagementGuide/CustomizingYum/#working_with_yum_plugins

Maybe with some research from "rpm -qa --last | tac" which would list your updates from the oldest to the newest, you'll be able to see what's been replaced. Hope someone else has an easy answer for you though!

[Iron_Mike]

But, in other words, your hosed, too many packages have been upgraded. You can try the "downgrade" options. But reinstall F8 and go from there..

[orsula]

I would like to try anything I can before reinstall......the yum-allowdowngrade was installed but would do anything when I tried 'yum update --allow-downgrade'. Is that the way to use it?

[orsula]

Actually, if anyone can help me with getting my usb mouse to work it would be great.
Here is my relevant xorg.conf :
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
Option "LeftEdge" "120"
Option "RightEdge" "830"
Option "TopEdge" "120"
Option "BottomEdge" "650"
Option "FingerLow" "14"
Option "FingerHigh" "15"
Option "MaxTapMove" "110"
Option "VertScrollDelta" "20"
Option "HorizScrollDelta" "20"
Option "MinSpeed" "0.3"
Option "MaxSpeed" "0.75"
EndSection

On F8 I simply stuck the mouse in and it worked. On this F9 it doesn't. The mouse touch button in the middle of the keyboard (on the D630 lap) also doesn't respond. Only the touchpad. Pretty desparate here. Any suggestions would be very welcomed.

[bob]

I'd ask some help from the developers here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#head-e515a6e891efe6e2f1c8faa0434f8b5422510668 - They don't monitor our Forum and your circumstances are pretty unusual, so members might not be the best resource for this problem.

[orsula]

Yeah, I posted there. Appreciate it.

[JN4OldSchool]

Just keep us posted, I got my rabbit ears tuned into this thread for sure. Cant help but it is a learning experience for me as well. I would just reinstall myself, I admire your determination to see this through. I hope you can manage it.

[mickwombat]

Hi there,
Don't worry, your circumstances are not unusual. I'm having the same problem here. Did a fresh install of FC8. Everything is fine. Tried to do a yum update which doesn't work. Missing dependencies blah blah blah. I have Firefox 3 which doesn't work with Java. Don't know how to regress this.

I post on another topic about the problems with the updating, installing additional packages etc and someone pointed out about the 'development pack'.

Man, I simply downloaded the official 'working/tested' (sic) release and am getting this nonsense.

Suggestions appreciated, particularly in how to install firefox 2.(whatever).

I have downloaded it to my desktop, but don't know what to do from there.

Cheers

Mick

[orsula]

I did a fresh F8 install too and got everything to the original state. I don't see why you would get FF3 when you install F8?....I would verify in Apps/Add/Remove software that non of the dev repos are enabled. My initial F8 install after the bad move with F9 got me some old kernel,packages etc. I verified the repos had no dev in them and approved a titanic update of basically everything that got me up to date. What do you get for "uname -r"? From what you said I understand that "yum install firefox" gives you FF3beta? Sounds weird. My only tip now is check the repos. Remove and reinstall FF. What do you get with "rpm -q firefox"?

I hurt for you man..there should be some panic recovery option to go back from a bad update. I tried it with yum-allowdowngrade but no dice.

[mickwombat]

Thanks,
I'll try all that in a bit. I had a duel boot PC and wiped the drive to make the Linux partition bigger and make Windows as small as possible. In my haste I realised that I have lost my Windows recovery disk and I had downloaded the wrong type of FC8 so had to install FC6 again. Everything was working fine with Firefox (2.xxx) including all the plugins etc.

Seems I lucked out with doing updates and have picked up something along the way which has caused this to happen. Dammit, where is that 'Undo' button. lol.

Anyhow,outputs below.

[root@localhost ~]# rpm -q firefox
firefox-3.0-0.beta2.4.fc9
[root@localhost ~]#

[root@localhost ~]# ls /etc/yum.repos.d
fedora-development.repo fedora.repo fedora-updates-testing.repo
Fedora-install-media.repo fedora-updates.repo
[root@localhost ~]#

Cheers

Mick

[mickwombat]

BTW. yum install firefox gives me FF3.

Any sort of how to regarding FF2.xxx after downloading from the website, can't seem to find any instructions.

Cheers

[orsula]

yeah, if "uname -r" gives you something with a *.fc9 in the end, the only way out was to start everthing again and install F8 from scratch. I couldn't get around it. As times goes on, these fresh installs go quicker....

[mickwombat]

Yeah, you're probably right.
Am going down another path on this thread

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=170470

I have disabled the development repo and am now doing updates. Will see what happens if I uninstall FF and then try to 'yum install firefox' and see if it still comes up with FF3.

My question is, how did this happen in the first place......I thought FC8 was a final release.

Cheers

[orsula]

I had everything working with F8 and accidentally flipped on the dev repos for some unknown reason. The next time an update came along, I blindly said "yeah, give me some F9 dev instead of my stable F8" and before I knew it I had F9 on the machine. Totally my fault but still, I thought I could rewind somehow. Hope it works for you.

[mickwombat]

You're right. I seem to have a FC9 Kernel.

I'm rather bored of doing fresh installs. Is there any way I can get the original Kernel back onto the system by using the install CD and going into Rescue mode or something like that.

Just a amateur guess, but will it work if I type 'yum install kernel' at the command prompt.