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ewdi
7th May 2004, 04:47 PM
Anyone seen Fedora Based Live CD yet? i was planning to develop one if there is enough interest for it.

Jman
7th May 2004, 11:54 PM
Apparently there is one in development at http://ftp.ylc.edu.tw/test/Fedora-LiveCD-C1218/

See this discussion (http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?threadid=93).

fjleal
8th May 2004, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by tux
i was planning to develop one if there is enough interest for it.
I'm sure it'd be very useful, for it'd allow us to test a machine for hardware compatibility with Fedora before formatting the disk and installing the full distro.

But a chinese (Tai) version is not a good choice for the most of us, I believe... :rolleyes:

Prometheus
8th May 2004, 12:50 AM
A live cd of Fedora would be awesome, though i dont know how you would cram a majority of the stuff on there. Youd just have to be really selective of what you put on the cd i guess. It sounds like a great idea.

ewdi
8th May 2004, 02:55 AM
i'll just try to gather up usefull packages, the only thing i need to decide is KDE or Gnome

foolish
8th May 2004, 10:28 AM
Gnome, no question about it. Fedora uses gnome as its default, so should any fedora live cd.

Ug
8th May 2004, 12:13 PM
I was gonna say, it has to be Gnome. It should have all of the base packages which a desktop install has.

foolish
9th May 2004, 04:27 PM
Yes, right. For demo purposes, a fedora live cd that looks and feels just like a default desktop install would be awsome. It would be an easy way to show just what you get with Fedora.

Once you have a live cd working, making a kde demo version, a rescue cd or other forks should be fairly easy.

I think the development of such a live-cd should be put out in the open, we need a website, a list of elements to include and just making it more projectish. Maybe this is something for fedorausers.org?

ewdi
9th May 2004, 04:55 PM
i might make 2 flavours, 1 with gnome and 1 with kde, i need some volunteer to keep the package up2date, we will have release like once every major kde or gnome releases as an ISO

Ug
9th May 2004, 04:56 PM
Possibly - but a Fedora Live CD would be fantastic. :D

foolish
9th May 2004, 06:01 PM
Why not base it on the cores? That way you'll get tested software, a schedule and more.

Ug
9th May 2004, 06:31 PM
It would be best to just release it with the Cores as foolish says. That way it'll stay more relevant than syncing with the Gnome and KDE release schdeules.

Prometheus
9th May 2004, 07:43 PM
Yeah, Ug and Foolish are right. If we really want to get people to compare KDE and Gnome, we could do two flavors (awesome idea btw), or get ppl to use Knoppix. Knoppix natively runs off of KDE instead of Gnome.

fjleal
9th May 2004, 10:56 PM
Fedora main graphical environment is Gnome, so I agree with Foolish that a Fedora Live CD should boot to Gnome. I also like KDE, but a single CD is a short space, so I'd like it better to include other tools, like OpenOffice, than to have two different GUIs. If people want to try different GUIs, like with many other applications included with the Fedora distro, they'll install the full version. Having two different flavours of the Live CD, like tux suggested, is also an interesting possibility.

It'd be nice to have a website for such a project. It'd surely attract a lot more enthusiasts! :)

Are we working on it already, or just talking?... :p

Ug
9th May 2004, 11:00 PM
We (well Tux) currently own the domain FedoraUsers.org which could be used in this way...

With the live CD a project of the site.

j_rowe
9th May 2004, 11:16 PM
A Live CD Based on Fedora seems cool! I've got copies of Knoppix and Mandrake Move that I use often to "show off" linux to n00bs that have never even seen a linux desktop, and I often use them to run Diagnostics.

I think a Fedora based CD would rock!

Ug
9th May 2004, 11:19 PM
Mandrake Move particularly impresses people... I'm sure its the inclusion of Tux Racer that does it. ;)

fjleal
10th May 2004, 12:06 AM
Isn't MandrakeMove only available to Mandrake's Club members?

It wasn't available to the general public last time I checked their site...

j_rowe
10th May 2004, 12:15 AM
I somehow managed to download it without being a member of thier "little club" :)

Mine is version 9 or so, perhaps they have changed thier policy - I did notice you have to now BUY Mandrake 10 - no free download version anymore.

ewdi
10th May 2004, 01:40 AM
u still cand ownload mandrake community version, official version will need membership and box version is kind a expensive, i would pay my money on suse though

Ug
10th May 2004, 06:44 AM
I've just placed an order for Mandrake 10 Powerpack, for the family recently. ;)

Bana
12th May 2004, 02:17 AM
For those interested in this I'm sure Tux would be more than willing to give you webspace (as per his deal here: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1460 I really hope this actually gets done as It does have that wow factor (espescially on April Fools when you pretend that you've formated your teachers computers :D )

ewdi
12th May 2004, 02:19 AM
lol bud, i'm the one who's starting the project :p

Bana
12th May 2004, 02:30 AM
*rubs eyes and blinks*Well I'll be darned, I didn't know senility started at age 17 :p

Jman
12th May 2004, 02:45 AM
The only problems will be getting the initial bootable part running and then deciding what goes on it.

Will this be based on an existing live CD?

Bana
12th May 2004, 02:49 PM
Jman: no idea

How does the compression scheme generally work on live CDs? I know that you uncompress into ramdisk at boot but how do we go about this?

For package inclusion I nominate the following:
Gimp (of course)
Gaim
Firefox & Thunderbird
XMMS
Helix Player (to be fully functional internet workstation)
K3b
FreeCiv!

Ug
12th May 2004, 02:55 PM
FrozenBubble + Tux Racer

*ahem* I mean OO.org, Gaim, Firefox, Thunderbird, Nvu, GIMP 2.0, Scribus, Gnucash...

foolish
12th May 2004, 03:06 PM
I don't like the idea of both kde and GNOME programs, I think we should go with GNOME only at first, then create a KDE one later on. I think we should try to be as much like the default desktop install as possible. Only adding some essential things. I don't think neither k3b nor scribus are essential. qtparted might be though, I don't know. Are we making an all in one bootable thingy, or a Fedora-Desktop demonstration thingy?

Here's my list:

GNOME
Rhythmbox
Epiphany
Mozilla (with mozcurveblue theme by default)
Evolution
Gaim
Gimp
Openoffice.org
Xchat (maybe xchat-gnome in the future)
system-config tools
Samba
Bluefish
Games (frozenbubble, tuxracer, gnome-games)

Ug
12th May 2004, 03:18 PM
Desktop Demonstration.

I think you're right about not mixing. I just forgot that Scribus was a Qt app.

Bana
12th May 2004, 03:52 PM
Hmm, what is the definition of a 'Desktop Demonstration'? As it could either be to wow and impress your friends with its cool features (games screensavers) or to wow them with its productivity level (oo.org, xsane, evolution, etc.) Or should we try a mix of these two?

Ug
12th May 2004, 04:46 PM
More the latter but with a splattering of the former. We want to show that Fedora is usable, now.

fjleal
12th May 2004, 05:22 PM
My list (applications I'd like to find after booting a FC1 cd):

Gnome;
OpenOffice.org;
Gaim;
Mozilla suite (for TBird and FFox don't play very well together in Linux, yet - also we get a calendar application, an IRC client, an HTML editor and an address book included);
Firestarter;
rdesktop and tsclient (for remotely managing Windows boxes, very important for systems admins.);
xmms;
vlc;
Anjuta;
Glade;
J2SDK 1.4.3_04 (pre-installed, with Moz plugin configured);
Netbeans IDE;
Quanta (a problem! It's KDE-based... :();
...

Do we have enough space left for Xfce? :)

Ug
12th May 2004, 05:41 PM
Evolution should be in there...

foolish
12th May 2004, 05:53 PM
Let's just check the list of packages included in a default Fedora Core 2 desktop installation and start there.

fjleal
23rd May 2004, 11:45 PM
So, now that FC2 is out, how about this LiveCD project? Any progress? Please don't let the idea cool down... ;)

coyote4til7
25th May 2004, 03:41 PM
Searching around DistroWatch, there are a number including:

http://dc.qut.edu.au/adios/
Adios has been based on FC2 since 14 May

http://nwst.de/livelinuxcd/lilinux.phtml?include=htm/en_howto.htm
Is a how-to focused on RPM-based distros (e.g. roll your own fedora live cd)

And FWIW, the Fedora-based live cd someone linked to at the beginning of the discussion is no longer there.

Ug
25th May 2004, 04:49 PM
We;re after a pure Fedora live cd - nothing added. ;)

ewdi
25th May 2004, 05:05 PM
i'm working on compiling packages to be included in it now, have no decide on name yet

mpsii
25th May 2004, 06:01 PM
For a name, how about the Fedora TipCD?

It could allude to the tipping of one's hat in a greeting as well as being able to say that the CD is just the "tip" of the Fedora iceburg.

khirano
27th November 2004, 02:56 AM
Here you go!
Fedora Core based 1 CD Linux:
It's called Berry Linux.

http://yui.mine.nu/linux/eberry.html


Thanks,
khirano

jale2ice
30th November 2004, 12:52 AM
For a name: Fedora Feather LiveCD. <---- EDIT** Someone already has the feather name! :(

**I want credit if it makes it**

:)

weapon
5th January 2005, 02:16 PM
what about a fedora dvd that also contains all the install files, you can test it out & install it

Weapon

killaweegee
13th January 2005, 01:14 AM
I agree with weapon, how about putting it on dvd? I think you guys are really on to something good...please don't let it die!

gonzalo76
27th February 2005, 08:19 AM
Hi there, any news about this Live CD or DVD ?
It'll be great having a live cd/dvd made by users of this forum !!!

Anyway, I found two LiveCD based on Fedora Core 3:

LiveCd 'basilisk' v. 1.40
This is a fedora core 3 based Livecd with KDE 3.3.1, Gnome 2.8, OpenOffice, Fire- and Thunderbird and a lot of other tools.
http://www.linux4all.de/livecd/basilisk/1.40/index.htm

Berry Linux Project
Berry Linux 0.53 Based on Fedora Core 3, Knoppix 3.6
Berry Linux is a bootable CD Linux, automatic hardware detection, and
support for many graphics cards, sound cards, SCSI and USB devices and
other peripherals. Berry Linux can be used as a Linux demo, education-
al CD, rescue system. It is not necessary to install anything on a ha-
rd disk. But it's able to install on hard disk. (needs 1.7GB)
Berry Linux is based on Red Hat Fedora Core 3, Knoppix 3.6.
http://yui.mine.nu/linux/eberry.html

Dog-One
28th February 2005, 01:50 PM
What would be slick is if someone would keep a build server running that generates two files every time there is a Fedora update. The first file would be a CD or DVD iso and the second file be an img (image) for flash/pen drives. Have the build server take the latest Fedora, apply the latest updates and generate these output files daily if needed. Then post a link someplace on this forum to grab it. Someone want to tackle this project? ewdi?

For a name, just plain Fedora Core Live works for me. :)

Dog-One
28th February 2005, 02:02 PM
BTW, it would appear that a Live CD version of Fedora Core would be an offshoot of Stateless Linux. See these links for more info:

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1666122,00.asp
http://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-September/msg00575.html
http://people.redhat.com/~hp/stateless/StatelessLinux.pdf
http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm/stateless/

genisis300
20th March 2005, 09:34 AM
Why does it have to be a cd most ppl now adays have a dvd rom,you could included almost a complete install on one dvd.

satimis
28th May 2005, 12:43 AM
Hi Jman,

http://ftp.ylc.edu.tw/test/Fedora-LiveCD-C1218/

the link seems broken.

B.R.
satimis

ieuuk
28th May 2005, 12:16 PM
Why does it have to be a cd most ppl now adays have a dvd rom,you could included almost a complete install on one dvd.

thats quite a good point. I think its just the overhead that your system would need to run 4.7gb worth of dvd because it would have to loads bits in to memory etc.

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