Major SDL issues in F8

[Remm]

At least some SDL based software appears to be broken in F8 (default installation, with pulseaudio). Sound does not appear to work, and they appear to be hanging at some point.

Tested:
- SDLMame (http://www.arcadehits.net/mamescore/wolfSDLmame/?s=D): rom list displays fine, hangs - using 100% CPU - when starting a game, needs a kill -9 (in a text console)
- Wesnoth: runs with no sound, hitting quit causes a hang using 100% CPU, needs a kill -9 (in a text console)

The root cause seems sound related to me, but I didn't try to gdb the thing.

Did anyone else run into this ?

[strikeforce]

Wesnoth runs fine for me exiting and sound functions.

I would think if this is sound related you haven't enabled pulse-audio.

yum groupinstall 'Sound and Video'

[Remm]

This is the default install from the LiveCD. and pulseaudio works correctly. I don't seem to have stuff missing from the 'Sound and Video' group (it has its default components installed).

My sound card is a pretty standard Intel ICH8, using the snd-had-intel driver (as it did in F7).

[Remm]

Update after trying more things. Wesnoth's sound works sometimes, while SDLMame never works. Running them from the console makes both work correctly for some reason. If someone has a logical explanation to this behavior, I would be interested :)

In another possibly related problem, the Source engine running on Wine doesn't like the ALSA output anymore. Sound works for me using ESD, but of course it's laggy and degrades performance.

[Remm]

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[strikeforce]

For running sound in wine turn on oss.

Can you do an rpm -q | grep pulse

[Remm]

> rpm -qa | grep pulse
pulseaudio-module-lirc-0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8
pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8
pulseaudio-module-gconf-0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8
pulseaudio-module-zeroconf-0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8
pulseaudio-libs-0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8
pulseaudio-core-libs-0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8
pulseaudio-esound-compat-0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8
pulseaudio-0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8
gstreamer-plugins-pulse-0.9.5-0.4.svn20070924.fc8
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.14-5.fc8
pulseaudio-utils-0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8

Wine + OSS produces no sound (acceleration set to "full" in Wine, with 48k/16bits).

[strikeforce]

esd now shifts to pulse-audio the original esd has been removed.

I have no idea why you wouldn't get sound in somethings and others you do.

[Remm]

The issues are mostly limited to SDL based software (Mame and Wesnoth), and Wine. I will try more stuff this WE to see what happens.

[salierix]

I'm experiencing the exact same issues as Remm. SDL based apps don't have sound and crash when quiting, unless run from a terminal in which case they seem to work find.

[strikeforce]

Have you had a look here.

http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=171083

[dumbbeatnix]

Try typing esd into a terminal and then run wesnoth. It works, now I will look around on how to have this start at boot time.

Cheers
dumbbeatnix

[dumbbeatnix]

Sorry guys, it did work the first time, then it wouldn't work again. Looking into how to get this blasted sound working myself.

Cheers
dumbbeatnix

[fozner]

I put in my gnome sessions (System->Preferences->Personal-Sessions) a new startup program (Add)

pulseaudio -D

This is probably done automatically by some package, like pulseaudio-gnome, or whatever, but I think I have that but some reason it stopped working after reboot. At some point I may begin to have sick sadistic programmer style love for Fedora because I am one of the few who can actually use it for anything other than a frisbee toss.