Some thoughts about my F8 install

[red_dungeon]

Preparation was today @12:00 GMT.

1. Shrinking WinXP on my laptop @ work to get some free space for F8 (used a gparted live cd)

2. Waiting until the (official) mirrors are up

3. DL'ing and Burning the Fedora8-Gnome-Live-i686.iso (whateva it's called :D )
Sidenote: No probs to burn the CD like in F7 !

4. Reboot and Start F8. Nice looking... but oh... my Monitor-OSD says something about unsupported resultion. Crap... but... humm... Ack'd that on my monitor (because the visible screen looked +- ok)

5. A Login window ? Woot ? on a live CD ? oke... only 1 user (fedora), and it starts this user automatically after a timeout. So I decided to force that and selected user fedora -> ENTER. Ok... i successfully managed to log in (But why on earth do I have to login ON A LIVE CD ?).

6. Screen looks well known. Gnomish. What I've expected (Running Gnome @ F7).
Oke... n1ce a install button on Desktop. Exactly what I wanted. ClickClick and the install begins.

7. Partition -> User Free Space on Partition... Reviewed that and it was ok like F8 proposed.

8. Language, Keyboard, Bootloader, Network whateva... some basic questions and it started to install.

9. After bout 10 minutes: "Install successful" (or something like that). But... what now ? Reboot manually ? Humm... ok, i try.

10. F8 starts up and I see the GDM login screen.
but there were no users to choose !

No wonder... I don't even initialised one. Strange.

Rescue Boot in Runlevel 1 initialize a root-password and went to Runlevel 5.

Then CTRL-ALT-F1, and add a personal user (forgot that in Runlevel 1). Adduser RedDungeon && passwd FOOBAR, restarted Xorg (CTRL-ALT-Backspace), and managed to log in.

Screen Resolution is still bad (said my screen osd).
Now i fiddled a bit around.

I configured (manually) a proxy server (also Globally and in /etc/yum.conf).
Killed yum-updatesd and another yum process (totally f*ckd up). No idea why.
Firefox didn't wanted to start (??)
and so on...

Humm... reboot maybe ?
OK...

after my reboot... i saw: the firstlogin window ! Where I was able to create a user. W00t ? I have hacked one by myself, i dont need that stupid firstlogin service now ?!

After that my 2nd login into gnome:
How can i fix my display problem ? Ah... lspci && eye-detected ati && decided to install ATI native drivers... searched on the release-notes and found: not supported get one 4 yourself.

Yes I (!!!!) know livna. But a beginner would be totally f*kd up ! Okeyyy... liva added fglrx installed and wow... my osd/monitor was lucky with the new drivers.

But I didnt get the Desktop effects running. Unknown error. Yeah... but glxinfo was happy with my graka. Humm... not a tragedy. I wanna work with my laptop ;-)

Finally I got the most (I needed) to run, like it should, but I was a little bit disappointed. About the problems I got.

IMHO there shouldn't be a installer on the disc if he acts like that ! It seems to be kind of buggy.

Fedora8 is IMHO not comparable to Ubuntu 7.10. Ubuntu is way easier to install (I tried it on the laptop of my girlfriend - also with a Gnome-Live-ISO and the Install to disk), but it isn't behind Fedora8 (technically). The proprietary drivers were detected by Ubuntu... and so on...

In Short:
If your NEW to linux and want a Install-OOB (Out Of The Box), take Ubuntu !
If you wanna learn some things (Booting in Secure Mode, adding user on console, etc... and so on...) then you can try F8.
If your addicted and pro... you get everything to work... also this crappy-F8 :D ;)

But...
Im Fedora User since FC3 and im RHCE... so I will stay @Fedora (installing it afterwards on my F7 Laptop).


PS: Sry bout grammar issues. Don't wrote much text in english the last few years :rolleyes:

[bob]

Thanks for your input & feedback. Of course, this Forum is 'users helping users' and the developers don't monitor it. So, if you want to give feedback where it might do the most good, start here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate BTW, I'm booting several distros right now and each one has some pluses and minuses. I'm about to add Werewolf to the list and hope that my experiences are a bit better. Fingers crossed!

[red_dungeon]

Hi Bob,

back from my 2nd install (on my home-laptop)... and werewolf hit me again :-(

But... the good message: I'm writing this one on F8 ^^
I managed to get the installation done.

But I saw not only werewolfes but anacondas too.

Don't try to preserve your /boot Partition !

The installation will totally fail !
Anaconda doesn't like that ^^

And: If you have an error, don't even try to restart the installer. Because he doesn't rescan the lvm's and partitions and failes because of this...

I had to restart the whole live sys, because of this problem :-(
a lvm-rescan, partprobe in the installer would be a fine idea !!! :mad:

The other positive aspect: firstboot started how it has to start... no idea why it didn't start @ my work-laptop ?
And another thing: No prob with my nvidia gfx... as far i can see... (@work I had an ATI)

You'll here of me :-)

[RahulSundaram]

Preparation was today @12:00 GMT.

5. A Login window ? Woot ? on a live CD ? oke... only 1 user (fedora), and it starts this user automatically after a timeout. So I decided to force that and selected user fedora -> ENTER. Ok... i successfully managed to log in (But why on earth do I have to login ON A LIVE CD




... Because not everyone speaks English and the Live CD has dozens of different languages. The release notes has this documented already.

http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/releases/8/Fedora/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en_US.html#sn-Usage-Information

[YeOK]

Just got my system updated to Fedora 8, having all my data on various drives its easy for me to install with a format > install. Anyway, the install from the DVD went like it has since I started with FC4, perfect.

I love the new sound system, I like the fact my 64bit install, with 64bit firefox now has java support. Not had long to have a good look round, but so far the update is well worth it. Not one issue, everything works, the new theme looks good, Gnome 2.20 seems solid.

Shame the Fedora developers don't read here, because I'd like them to know Fedora 8 is of the high standard I've come to expect.