SERIOUSLY NEED HELP WITH INSTALL! (caps)

[xJiX]

Okay, now I am a native Windows user... don't flame me. I have tried Fedora Core 3, and fell in love with it, but this was quite some time ago, and also, I had a different computer, which also was equipped with a nice DVD writer... However, I now have a laptop (Compaq Evo N610c), and it fails to have anything DVD on it, so I am stuck up the creek..

Anyway, I just finished downloading this hellaciously large file 'F-7-i386-DVD.iso', using bittorrent, and now that the download is complete, I am ready to say goodbye to the registry, and hello to local storage and installation. Since I have no DVD writer, and running WinXP currently, is there any way I can run this ISO and begin the installation? I have already backed up everything I want to keep, and will use Wine for those.. But I just need to change out the OS.. Badly.. Someone, please help me.

[JN4OldSchool]

Why didnt you go for the 700MB live CD option with either Gnome or KDE? This will allow a HD install also and would probably be your easiest way out. You can also do a net install but I'm not the one to give you directions there. You could, of course, search "net install" in this forum. :)

[xJiX]

You know what? I was actually going to get the 700mb file, but I kept looking back and forth, and I guess my reasoning was that if it is more than 1.3g's less in filesize, then a few things would have to be missing.. So I reluctantly chose the longer download, and still failed :( Dagnabbit!

What's this net install about?
I'm gonna search for it

[JN4OldSchool]

Just be aware that the live CD does have fewer packages on install than the DVD. The only thing I found that was missing was OO.o though and this is easily installed via Yum once the distro is installed. If you ask me this is the way to go anyway, I dont use but 1/4 what is on the DVD and I like to just install things as I need them. No point in being bloated.

[xJiX]

Well, I guess I won't be missing out on too much, seeing to it that I have no idea what OO is.. But yeah, I like to also use hard disk space as sparingly as possible..

[leigh123@linux]

Well, I guess I won't be missing out on too much, seeing to it that I have no idea what OO is.. But yeah, I like to also use hard disk space as sparingly as possible..

OO=Openoffice

[xJiX]

Ahh.. I thought OpenOffice.org was for windows? I liked that better than Microsoft Office.. and it's more compact.. and its just... awesome.

[leigh123@linux]

Ahh.. I thought OpenOffice.org was for windows? I liked that better than Microsoft Office.. and it's more compact.. and its just... awesome.

If you use the livecd to install you can get OpenOffice later with this command ( internet needed )

su -
yum install openoffice.org-core

[xJiX]

"su -" = ?

Also, what is "yum"?

[JN4OldSchool]

su is how you become "root." su - means that your path is now through the root account vs. just being root in the user account. Yum is the Fedora package manager. So...to put all this together, once installed you will open a "terminal" which will be labled as such in the menu system. The first thing you want to do is type:

su
(your root password)
yum update

This is, of course, done from your user account. You NEVER want to log into your root account for saftey reasons. I am actually exaggerating this, however, until you understand what is going on do NOT log in as root into the root account.

After Yum updates the full OS then follow Leigh's instructions to install OO.o which is your office suite.

edit: Oh, you can always copy and paste commands into your terminal. So just highlight Leigh's command in his post, right click, copy then right click your terminal and paste. No reason to try typing mile long cryptic commands.

Check out this site once installed, it will explain a lot:

http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f7.html

[xJiX]

Wow.. you guys are really helpful around here. ^_^

So is logging into root like logging in as Admin in lue of just a User?

[JN4OldSchool]

yep, but dont do it. It is just asking for problems. Everything can easily be done from the user account using "su" "sudo" or even opening the file browser as root. The only time to log into your root account is if you are going to be doing some major reconfiguration and you need to be aware at all times that you are in root. I use a red wallpaper in all my root accounts so there is no mistake. Like I go for a cup of coffee, come back and forget and decide to surf some porn...

[xJiX]

Okay, I will definately keep that in mind for future ref..

Now, another situation has risen.. Fedora-7-Live-x86_64.iso just finished downloading (the 700mb one), and I went to the folder, and it seems to be like read only. What would be suggested that I do to get it up and running so that I can begin the Fedora 7 installation?

[JN4OldSchool]

you need to burn the image on CD. There should be an option to burn an image, dont just burn the file. Short of that you can boot from the image but I dont have a clue on that. You would have to post and probably wait or do some serious searching.

[leigh123@linux]

Okay, I will definately keep that in mind for future ref..

Now, another situation has risen.. Fedora-7-Live-x86_64.iso just finished downloading (the 700mb one), and I went to the folder, and it seems to be like read only. What would be suggested that I do to get it up and running so that I can begin the Fedora 7 installation?

Anyway, I just finished downloading this hellaciously large file 'F-7-i386-DVD.iso', using bittorrent

Did you want 64 bit O/S as you start in post #1 with 32 bit O/S ?

[xJiX]

Did you want 64 bit O/S as you start in post #1 with 32 bit O/S ?


So basically, yet again, I've downloaded the wrong one? x.x

[leigh123@linux]

So basically, yet again, I've downloaded the wrong one? x.x

try this one

http://fedora.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora/linux/releases/7/Live/i386/Fedora-7-Live-i686.iso

[JN4OldSchool]

ROFL good catch Leigh :D Hey, what are you using to burn this with? Maybe someone here can tell you how.

[xJiX]

Ok, cool.. that just answered my very next question.. thx. Hmm.. I may need the torrent of this one, cause those download much faster than this direct link for me. But I need i686 then, right?

Okay, so I guess 3rd time's a charm.. here we go.

[leigh123@linux]

Ok, cool.. that just answered my very next question.. thx. Hmm.. I may need the torrent of this one, cause those download much faster than this direct link for me. But I need i686 then, right?

Okay, so I guess 3rd time's a charm.. here we go.


i686 = 32 bit for intel & amd CPU's


for a torrent

http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents//Fedora-7-Live-i686.torrent

[xJiX]

Sorry about the double post, but I want to kinda keep this topic bookmarked, sorta like my own personal newbies guide to Fedora..

So this is a bit off topic, but I'm just curious.. Once I finish the download and it hopefully works this time, would I be able to run any windows application with Fedora / wine? I mean.. I have a 30mb portable photoshop that I like to use, and I am an avid user of my 8mb Visual Basic, as well as working a bit with msvc++EE, and for music, FLStudio.. or would I just have to scrap these wonderful apps?

[JN4OldSchool]

Wine sucks. Granted, that is MHO, but chances are few if any of those apps will ever run right. My advice? Keep a Windows computer, offline (no phoning home if you catch my drift ;) ) just to run these apps. Then use Linux for internet and productivity or whatever else. I have to admit, I hate Windows, have permanently ditched Windows and will NOT use Windows, but hey, that is MY hangup. There is no reason it has to be one or the other. Use what you need to do the job.

[xJiX]

Hmm... So all software for fedora is freeware?

I just said wine cause that's the only one I've heard about that allows for running of executables and whatnot.. But it's not so much that I need these programs, cause with each passing day -- I'm finding myself hating windows more and more, but even some sort of equivalent would do nicely. I am afraid, however, of separating myself from the many users that I regularly interact with, because I'd no longer be able to compile programs and applications that they'd be able to use -- or would I?

Also, how much different is the syntax of C++ applications, as well as the compilation of the files to make a single, stand-alone uhh.. "exe" for linux? I'm not quite sure what to refer to them as.. or just binaries?

[JN4OldSchool]

I am not a programmer, just an old fart who has nothing better to do, but I think you will be surprised at what Linux can actually do for you. Sometimes we have to make concessions, but sometimes, once we get used to a new app, we find it is actually much better than the Windows counterpart.

[xJiX]

Well, sitting here with i686 @ 90.1% downloaded, hopefully soon, I can agree 100% with you. ^_^

EDIT: Had to run out and grab a blank CD.. now burning the ISO image..

Any final words of wisdom before the burning process completes?

Oh, and I had a question too.. will I be walked through creating a new user account right away, so that I am not ever on root acct?