Fedora 2 Test doesn't like old hardware

[rcu316]

I have installed Fedora 2 Test 3 times now in the past 24 hours. It seems it isn't real fond of my old 333 Pent II with 256 meg of ram. I have it running now, but am hesitant about letting yum doing any upgrades. The 2 times I let it upgrade I had to end up reloading off the CD. I am to the point of thinking that "bleeding edge" technology isn't going to work on such "non bleeding edge" hardware.:) :)

[Bobmeister]

Well, what do you mean? You didn't describe any problems you are having. I am running an old Dell with a pentium II at 450MHZ and haven't had any problems (except of course, the bugs that we are testing for). I did a clean install.

Let us know what exactly the problem is and maybe someone can help.

[Ug]

Remember as well that this is only alpha software.

[Bobmeister]

You know, it's easy to forget that. I am so impressed that just about every bug that I have run accross, by the time I go to the boards to check, it's already be filed and someone is working on it! That is what makes this Fedora project so much fun.

I just wrote my brother about how "dis-appointed" I was when I installed Fedora 1 test 1 and how many problems I had with it. By the time the actual release came out, it was pretty much all fixed. I have been running on Fedora 1 since the Nov 5th release date and aside from an operator error here and there (me), and I'm not making this up, it has run FLAWLESSLY.

So, my observation has been that, even with the new kernel in FC2 Test 1, this alpha release has actually been SMOOTHER than the alpha release of Fedora Core 1! So, with two test releases to go, I have TOTAL faith that these bugs will get worked out!

This is a really wonderful project. How many people really get to participate in an ALPHA project? For many, it's the first time they see how buggy a first release of something new can be. And this is what makes this process so much fun. THOUSANDS of people working on this.

Sorry to ramble, but I get all excited easily about cool FREE software. Every month, I get a little closer to chucking Windows for good. I continue to get closer. And of course, I spend what used to be 50%, then 60%, then 70% and now 95% of my time in Linux. The only time I boot up Windows is when I HAVE to. That's it.

So, for people having frustrations with an Alpha release, please keep posting the bugs and someone can help with solutions. And this Fedora can be the best Linux program out there. I think it's already close.

[rcu316]

The main problem are the updates. The first time I installed it I told it to do all the updates, it said I needed 502 of them. Some 6 hours or so later everything was done. The Xserver crashed. It kept telling me it was the mouse. The mouse was working fine before the upgrade.

Install number 2, my number 3 ISO disk was corrupted. There was no option to let me out of the install so I just lost that install plain and simple.

Install number 3, it is running right now. I did the kernel upgrade. It will not boot with the new kernel upgrade. As long as I boot with the kernel off the installl I am ok.

Also no sound. When I run sndconfig it tells me the kernel doesn't support sound. I have been piddling with Linux and probably loaded 9 or 10 different distributions but I am not a Linux guru by any means and have never compiled a kernel.

Bobmeister, this is also a Dell PII but has the 66 mhz board, your Dell has the 100 mhz board, There is a lot of differnece there. I have the same system as you with a Powerleap 1.4 processor in it that absolutely smokes for what it is. I was planning on putting the Fedora 2 on it after I got it up and running right on this old machine. This old machine is nothing more than a test mule. I have Fedora 1 on the main machine I use and it does great.

Roy

[Bana]

I think in Fedora C2 the update is automatically pointed to the Rawhide packages which are all of the bleeding edge ones (even more so than FC2) and that is why it had so many updates. That is also why it broke itself as that is really not a good idea to go to rawhide except for testing specific packages and such. You will probably have better luck redireting yum (or apt or up2date) to the core/test/1.90/i386/os directory on the fedora download site and the updates folder of pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/1/i386/

HTH

[redhat71]

Originally posted by rcu316
The main problem are the updates. The first time I installed it I told it to do all the updates, it said I needed 502 of them. Some 6 hours or so later everything was done. The Xserver crashed. It kept telling me it was the mouse. The mouse was working fine before the upgrade.


i had the same problem after i updated kernel from 2.6.1 to 2.6.2

the error message said something like it couldn not find "psaux"
i opened the XF86Config and replaced
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
with
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
(which i found from the other "InputDevice" below it)
then gave it a try, and it worked

i am NOT an expert at all, but it only took me 2 minutes to get through it
1 minute to read the error message and another minute to modify the XF86Config

what you installed is fc2 TEST1, what you updated from is DEVELOPMENT ... what are you expecting?!

[Bobmeister]

So, I guess the POINT of all this is that with all of us TESTING the TEST, when it comes out in APRIL it will be very nice, indeed, just as Core 1 was.

Yeah, my old Dell is a test machine too...so I can be agressive and just plain goof with things and screw it up.

Check out the mail-lists...especially the test archive and you will see solutions to many of the problems. I am really impressed by how fast people are on top of things.

So, with Fecora Core 2 test 2 we should see many improvements!

That /dve/psaux thing is a clusterbutt...a big oversight and mistake. But it will be fixed, and just like many, it was an easy fix. Not that we should have to do that kind of stuff...and we sure won't on the final release, but I'm finding this UNIX thing really straight forward...as long as things are linked up correctly, IT WORKS.

Thanks for letting me vent!

[rcu316]

redhat71
Newbie

what you installed is fc2 TEST1, what you updated from is DEVELOPMENT ... what are you expecting?!


To be honest, what I expected was the yum to update what it is suppose to. How was I suppose to know the difference between, test, rawhide, development or whatever? I just installed the damn thing and told it to update with whatever url that was included with it on the CD.

Roy

[redhat71]

Originally posted by rcu316
To be honest, what I expected was the yum to update what it is suppose to.


i think yum is doing a good job in your case
you asked yum to update everything and it did

Originally posted by rcu316
How was I suppose to know the difference between, test, rawhide, development or whatever? I just installed the damn thing and told it to update with whatever url that was included with it on the CD.
Roy

you are not supposed to know everything, even the developers are not
but people ARE supposed to know what the word TEST means

it's like "you can't have your cake and eat it too"
you want to try the TEST, better be ready for problems
you can't expect TEST release to be as stable as a STABLE release

there's nothing to be complained, it's not a damn thing, it's a TEST thing