Just Installed Zod, couple things please?

[BLiZZaRD]

Hello, I just installed FC6 on a new harddrive all by its lonesome.

Install went well, and things seem to be up and running... kind of. I have a couple of issues I was wondering if someone could help me with?

Specs:

FC6 on a dual boot, one 40Gig HD running FC6, one 80Gig HD running WinXP
2ghz pros. 512Ram, Intel centrino

When I wasinstalling I edited the grub config to say FC - 6 - Zod and Win XP INstead of Fedora Core and Other

After install and initial reboot grub gave me 3 options...

FC - 6 - Zod (2.6.18 - 2798.fc6xen)
FC - 6 - Zod-up (2.6.18 - 2798.fc6)
Windows XP

If I choose the first this is what happens:

start up screen comes on starting all processes. Before udev is complete screen starts blinking about 4 times a minute, continues through out start up. interface eth0: does not seem to be active or installed (some other words.. too fast to catch it all) [Failed].... ntpd: synch with time server [Failed] it then loads everything else with an [OK] and screen blinks about 4 more times, then goes to text log in screen. screen continues to blink then I get the X Sever failed stuff. click okay to reconfigure.. it fails.

If I use second option (-up) similar but I can get on...

screen starts to blink AFTER udev is loaded, Starting background readahead {Failed], (ntpd loads [OK] ), everything else loads fine, screen goes blank then I get a nasty looking distorted image flashing, almost like I have lost v-hold on my TV, then I get the GUI log in screen, log in and again the V-hold image thing, then screen blinks and I am in Gnome.

Once on desktop, everything seems to be fine.

WHAT is the -up and where did it come from? Why doesn't the other option work?

I read the kernal sticky about the i586 vs i686 thing, but I didn't do that, is there a way to upgrade the kernal without redoing the install? Perhaps through Yum or something?

Thanks for any help in this matter. I Loved FC5 and wasn't going to upgrade til at least 7, but I had to get a new HD and figured might as well.. now I am having problems! sigh...

[leigh123linux]

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/FC6Common

Common Issues

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Anaconda installing the wrong architecture kernel in some systems. cpuspeed is not working for the same reason. This does not affect out of box functionality much but if you are compiling third party kernel drivers you might run into this on x86 architecture. x86_64 and PPC systems are not affected. [WWW] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211941. You can bypass this bug in a new installation by specifying "linux i686" in the installation boot prompt.

An updates.img is available for this issue [WWW] http://people.redhat.com/pnasrat/211941-updates.img. Please follow the instructions here: Anaconda/Updates.

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To check which kernel package architectures are currently installed:
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rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n"|grep kernel|sort



yumdownloader is part of yum-utils in Fedora Extras. You can also manually download the kernel.
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su -c "yum install yum-utils"



Workaround is simple:
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yumdownloader kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686
su -c "rpm -Uvh --replacefiles --replacepkgs kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686.rpm"


out of curiosity why did you select and install the xen kernel?

[BLiZZaRD]

Thanks for that! I will look into the links there and do those work arounds.


I didn't know I selected the xen kernal... I downloaded the i86 iso's did the same install with the same options I have since FC2, I didn't specify a specific kernal to install, it just showed up when it was all complete. The only option I changed was the Grub Loader text.

Unless it was added because of a dependancy for one of the web developer packages??

out of curiosity why did you select and install the xen kernel?

[leigh123linux]

http://people.redhat.com/pnasrat/211941-updates.img
did you see the updates.img to make updates floppy or usb disk just change /dev/sdd1 to suit

dd if=updates.img of=/dev/sdd1 bs=72k count=20


at dvd boot enter

linux updates

at prompt enter disk location

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Updates

[BLiZZaRD]

Okay, ran everything posted in order. here are results:

current architecture:

rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n"|grep kernel|sort
kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i586
kernel-devel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i586
kernel-headers-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i386
kernel-xen-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686


yum-utils install:

su -c "yum install yum-utils"
...
Total download size: 39 k
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/1): yum-utils-1.0.1-1. 100% |=========================| 39 kB 00:00
warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 1ac70ce6
Importing GPG key 0x1AC70CE6 "Fedora Project <fedora-extras@fedoraproject.org>"
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Installing: yum-utils ######################### [1/1]

Installed: yum-utils.noarch 0:1.0.1-1.fc6
Complete!


download/replace i686 kernel:

warning: kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 4f2a6fd2
Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
1:kernel ########################################### [100%]


And finally another query after kernal swap:

rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n"|grep kernel|sort
kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686
kernel-devel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i586
kernel-headers-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i386
kernel-xen-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686


Going to reboot now and see that all is well... :D

[BLiZZaRD]

Yes, I have the img and have made the floppy :D

http://people.redhat.com/pnasrat/211941-updates.img
did you see the updates.img to make updates floppy or usb disk just change /dev/sdd1 to suit

dd if=updates.img of=/dev/sdd1 bs=72k count=20


at dvd boot enter

linux updates

at prompt enter disk location

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Updates

[leigh123linux]

You still will have to update the kernel-devel

[BLiZZaRD]

Right.. thats what the updates img disk does yes? I reboot with the install CD and tell it "linux updates" and then point to the floppy drive?

[leigh123linux]

Right.. thats what the updates img disk does yes? I reboot with the install CD and tell it "linux updates" and then point to the floppy drive?

It should make your next new install easier if you ever need to. Did you manage to update kernel-devel.

Leigh

[BLiZZaRD]

Actually NO! LOL

I had to wait til I got to work to post. I did all the above, and everything well, you saw the results. I rebooted when told to and when it came up I got a black screen that said "GRUB" in white letters in the top left corner, and the blinking "_" but nothing.

I couldn't get GRUB to work, did "linux rescue" and did the mnt/sys thing exited shell and still same thing.

So, now I couldn't get on to my WIN drive OR my Nix drive. I did a full install, from scratch, redid everything the exact same way as before, except this time I did the "linux i686" thing like the sticky says.

After it was all done... same thing with the black screen.

At that point I had to get ready for work so I shut the computer off and came to work.

Ideas?

I am thinking I am going to once again, re-format the drive and do an install without the "linux i686" this time.

It worked last time, just added the xen kernal, but I can remove that GRUB option after I can get on.

[leigh123linux]

The black screen is because /etc/X11/xorg.conf being incomplete. Thats another bug in the installer.

[BLiZZaRD]

So is there a work around without being able to get to any desktop environment, or should I try to install again and hope for the best?

Sorry, you are being so very very helpful. My Linux knowledge is basically limited to yum updates, Kolf and Gimp.

I am learning though, just want a box that works now :)

[leigh123linux]

1. what graphics card do you have.
2. Does this machine have internet access.
3. can you get text login ( ctrl alt F6 , any F1-F6 )
4. does this install have the i686 kernel

[BLiZZaRD]

ummm...

1. Not sure they brand. The generic one that comes with a Dell Deminsion.
2. Yes, eth0 was pointed at DSL ethernet
3. I can't get anything, it hangs at the grub_ black screen
4. I am guessing it does, I did a fresh install and typed "linux i686" before it started

[leigh123linux]

when you done linux rescue did you tpye in these commands

chroot /mnt/sysimage
grub-install /dev/ path to first harddrive hda?

[BLiZZaRD]

No, I didn't do the grub-install /dev/hda thing, just the chroot one.

I will try that when I get home then?

I will post back then and let you know what happens :D

Much Thanks!

Hope all goes well...

[BLiZZaRD]

Got back on! One horse tackled!

Ran the kernal check and got this:


rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n"|grep kernel|sort
kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686
kernel-headers-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i386
kernel-xen-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686


Looks like all is well for now, yes?

Thank you for your help, so far I have no other issues! Back to the books and lessons and try to master this Linux thing now!

[leigh123linux]

looks good