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sparks40
2006-12-05, 01:16 PM CST
Currently using FC6 with an AMD processor (32 bit mode), with 1gig of RAM. When setting up the video for this rig the correct Monitor Type is listed (Sony SDMHS75 P), as well as a generic driver (GeForce). My card is actually a "6100". Under the Hardware tab I have selected Generic LCD Display and the resolution is set at (LCD panel 1280x1024). After saving the settings and rebooting FC6 I am able to do a GUI login. However if I go back and check the settings that I previously entered, my hardware selection shows "Generic CRT Display" instead of Generic LCD Display", with no specific resolution highlighted.

While I am using the monitor in analog mode, I believe that the Horiz. and Vert. freq. settings usually associated with a CRT monitor are irrelevant for an LCD display. Please advise.

TNX

Seve
2006-12-05, 01:28 PM CST
Hello:
Why would you not select the correct monitor in your system-config-display ?
Your monitor is listed in both (Analog) & (Digital) versions, therefore, why would you want to use the Generic?

Or am I missing something?

Seve

sparks40
2006-12-05, 02:10 PM CST
While in the system-config-display, the correct monitor designation is selected. However, once you press the "configure" button, your are left with two selections... Generic Analog Display and Generic LCD Display. The term "generic" does not exactly give me warm feelings about proper hardware detection. However, even If I opt for the LCD Panel, the system automatically defaults to the Generic CRT display after reboot... kind of a catch22!!!

Seve
2006-12-05, 02:16 PM CST
Hello:
Don't select the configure Button again, if your correct monitor is dsipalyed, just click Ok and a dialogue box will appear telling you to restart X
Click Ok, then Ctrl Alt Backspace and your Xserver will restart with the correct monitor.

Seve

sparks40
2006-12-05, 02:46 PM CST
That worked jsut fine. As a matter of fact, the number of lines in my xorg.conf file have doubled.

One additional question: when I shrink an active window to the task bar, a number of concentric rectangles appear, (each smaller than the previous one) until the file is actually erased from the screen. Are the concentric rectangles due to my using the open sysem nvidia driver, or is there something else that causes this?

Seve
2006-12-05, 03:23 PM CST
Hello:
When you minimize the windows the normal behaviour is what you are experiencing. It's just resizing the minimizations to keep as many available as space permits. At least that's how it works here.
Regarding the lines in your xorg.conf file ...... it's probably a good idea not add / edit much in there unless you are having a problem.
Are you going to install the nivida drivers?

Seve

Dan
2006-12-05, 03:31 PM CST
Afternoon Seve!

If he installs the nVIDIA drivers... and then loads Beryl.... Fun shall ensue!

Dan

sparks40
2006-12-05, 03:32 PM CST
Thanks for your help, present as well as past!

I've read a lot about the nvidia drivers and all the accompanying problems/pain using them. There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding this subject. Have you installed them? Every article/post I read has a differnet way of doing it. Moreover, I also read the blurb that the FC developers wrote in which they suggest caution.

Which, if any, method did you try and how much of an improvement was it?

Dan
2006-12-05, 03:35 PM CST
Oh! It's worth it! I'll let Seve give you the skinney. I just came in to harrass him!

Dan

Seve
2006-12-05, 04:08 PM CST
Oh! It's worth it! I'll let Seve give you the skinney. I just came in to harrass him!

Dan
Hello Dan:
Are are ya?
Must me the Christmas season .....

Seve

Dan
2006-12-05, 04:11 PM CST
Finer than a frog hair split four ways! How're you?

Hey! There's Wayne too! Hi Wayne!

Dan

Seve
2006-12-05, 04:11 PM CST
That worked jsut fine. As a matter of fact, the number of lines in my xorg.conf file have doubled.

One additional question: when I shrink an active window to the task bar, a number of concentric rectangles appear, (each smaller than the previous one) until the file is actually erased from the screen. Are the concentric rectangles due to my using the open sysem nvidia driver, or is there something else that causes this?
Hello sparks:
You can install the nvidia drivers painlessly, if you like.
Open a terminal and log in as root using
su -
yourpassword
then copy and paste
rpm -ivh http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-6.rpm
when it's finished
type in the same open terminal
yum install kmod-nvidia
when that is done, exit the terminal and
Ctrl Alt Backspace to restart you Xserver and X should restart with the nvidia logo splashing by.

Seve

Seve
2006-12-05, 04:14 PM CST
Finer than a frog hair split four ways! How're you?

Hey! There's Wayne too! Hi Wayne!

Dan
Hello:
You know......today I am cold.... the temp dropped here in the last few days ..... . If it keeps this up and it may, I'll be digging through things looking for the old brass monkey. :eek:

Howdy, Wayne.

Seve

sparks40
2006-12-05, 04:42 PM CST
Hello to Dan also.

TNX Seve. I installed the driver, rebooted the X server and saw the nvidia logo come up. Looks fine. I would hate to tell you how many postings/articles I have read on this subject. Yours was by far the easiest and the best. Is Beryl (the cube desktop) next?

I believe that you are up in Canada. I use to have a close amateur radio friend in Ontario about 20 years ago... Ron VE3MX. We use to send slow-scan television pictures to a whole group of fellows all over the world... much like it's done on the web today. I remember using digital shift registers for a whopping 16k of memory on a 5 bit system all built from scratch. Oh well.

I don't want to tire you out or overstay my welcome. So if Beryl is the rotary cube desktop and it's a lengthy install we can save it for another day... your call.

TNX again.
Frank

Dan
2006-12-05, 04:52 PM CST
Hi Frank!

73 OM. Nah! Beryl's easy!

applications>add/remove software>list> then as below. One if you use Gnome, the other if you use KDE.

...-.-

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Seve
2006-12-05, 04:59 PM CST
Hello sparks:
Before you jump straight to Beryl, you need to check a few things.
from a terminal
rpm -aq | grep compiz
the result should be : compiz.i386
if it is not installed, then
yum install compiz
once that is complete then you will need to add a couple things to your etc/X11/xorg.conf file
The exact instructions are located here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=77030
you do not add Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "True" at this point.
Once you have edited your xorg.conf file, save, exit and restart you X server.
Then you should be able to enable desktop effects. System/Preferences/Desktop Effects
if that is successful, then you can install Beryl.
yum install beryl*
should take care of it

Edit:
Sorry Dan .... did not realize you posted ... your method is so much easier :p

Seve

Dan
2006-12-05, 05:17 PM CST
Easier, my aching arse!

yum install beryl* is a just bit easier than all that GUI surfing!

But I think I need to edit my other post. Those dits are way too small to see!

sparks40
2006-12-05, 05:33 PM CST
Hi Dan. No I did not see the dits. I haven't heard 73's in a long time. I was just about to go QRT but I couldn't resist. I have held the call sign K2OSP for 53 years! Haven't been active for the last 10 or so. My low band stuff is still in the box.

I'll let you chaps know how I make out... especially with the -

# yum install beryl

Regards

Dan
2006-12-05, 05:37 PM CST
OK on the QRT, Sparks! But remember the asterisk on " yum install beryl* "

It's kinda important! :p

73 OM, es CUL

Dan

EDIT: 53 years! That makes you QCWA X 2! Impressive!


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cooney
2006-12-06, 02:31 AM CST
Afternoon Seve!

If he installs the nVIDIA drivers... and then loads Beryl.... Fun shall ensue!

Dan


I can't wait... ;)

bob