FC6 Initial install error selecting Extras.

[sholley]

Wondering if anyone else is having this problem. Doing a fresh install of FC6 i386 from DVD. Durng the initilal installation when you select packages, I am erroring out when I select the Extras Package. it seems to be doing this just as I slect the checkbox for Extras. If I don't select extras it appears to be working just fine.

Just wondering if this is happenign to anyone else? :rolleyes:

Thanks

[Dan]

Ayup! It's a known bug.

[RahulSundaram]

Wondering if anyone else is having this problem. Doing a fresh install of FC6 i386 from DVD. Durng the initilal installation when you select packages, I am erroring out when I select the Extras Package. it seems to be doing this just as I slect the checkbox for Extras. If I don't select extras it appears to be working just fine.

Just wondering if this is happenign to anyone else? :rolleyes:

Thanks

For the final release, this is known to work well however the mirrors are getting hammered. So you need to pick one of the less used ones.

[Flanker]

Hello,
I ran into the same error/bug with the x86_64 dvd iso file.

So what do we have to do?
Install without the extras and select them when the installation is finisched by using yum?

Or do we have to download the iso again and hope that this time we grab a working one?

Any kind of help is much appreciated!

[Dan]

It worked for me to just do the default install, then update and add through yum and pirut.

[Seve]

Hello:
The extras does indeed work during the install. At least it did here. i386
I don't think it's a bug or a corrupted iso, it's just the volume of requests like Rahul mentioned.

Seve

[Dan]

Mornin' Seve.

I think it depends strictly on existing load when the installer pings the extras server. Rahul and the rest of the crew over at Redhat have got to be wearing a grin about now. A harried one, but a grin none-the-less. :)

Dan

[dwflo]

Had the same problem choosing Extras during the install. Anaconda gave the error message "..unable to unmount cdrom...whatever that meant :confused: !!!

[Flanker]

It worked for me to just do the default install, then update and add through yum and pirut.
Thank you very much!
This is the answer i was searching for. I will try that as soon as posible.

Thanks again

[HippieCat]

Had the same problem choosing Extras during the install. Anaconda gave the error message "..unable to unmount cdrom...whatever that meant :confused: !!!

Heck, this is the same problem I had with FC5! Also note, the FC5 dvd would never work for me, only the cd iso's would work, and yes all disks passed verification. Hope I don't have the same problem with FC6.

Also note, FC5 would not let me install extras either, I had to yum them in after a base install.

-HippieCat

[RahulSundaram]

Heck, this is the same problem I had with FC5! Also note, the FC5 dvd would never work for me, only the cd iso's would work, and yes all disks passed verification. Hope I don't have the same problem with FC6.

Also note, FC5 would not let me install extras either, I had to yum them in after a base install.

-HippieCat

FC5 did not even have the ability to install software from other repositories except Fedora Core. So obviously you wouldnt have been able to do that.

[HippieCat]

FC5 did not even have the ability to install software from other repositories except Fedora Core. So obviously you wouldnt have been able to do that.

Ok, now I am a bit confused. :p Of corse they were all for FC, but from Extras, Dries, RPMforge, or Livna.

-HippieCat

[RahulSundaram]

Ok, now I am a bit confused. :p Of corse they were all for FC, but from Extras, Dries, RPMforge, or Livna.

-HippieCat

The installer ability to access other repositories during installation itself is a new feature in Fedora Core 6.

[bharat211]

I received a similar problem when I started the installation with fedora extras packages selected with my i386 DVD. I obtained an error of the type: File conflict. As mentioned above by HippieCat, I simply did a reinstall with extras not included and installed the base software.

[HippieCat]

The installer ability to access other repositories during installation itself is a new feature in Fedora Core 6.

Ahh, I know I was missing some important info, lol. Thanks for the clarification Rahul. Yea, all the extra packages were installed AFTER installation.

-HippieCat

[extendedping]

Ok newbie here, I had fed 6 install crash when I hit the extras as well. I went throught with a text install and now I am up and running. now I got yumex. how do I get every extra I should have? is there a yum command I need to run? yum install goodies or something like that?

[Dan]

Try from the upper menu, select: Applications>Add/Remove Software. After the list populates (This may take a few moments) you may select any packages you wish to add. The program will sort out the dependencies for you.

Dan


EDIT: A word of caution. Anything which is already marked is already installed. If you remove a mark from an item, it will be uninstalled. :eek:

D

[extendedping]

Try from the upper menu, select: Applications>Add/Remove Software. After the list populates (This may take a few moments) you may select any packages you wish to add. The program will sort out the dependencies for you.

Dan


EDIT: A word of caution. Anything which is already marked is already installed. If you remove a mark from an item, it will be uninstalled. :eek:http://us.f604.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowFolder?YY=64315&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&inc=25&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b&box=%40B%40Bul

D

hmmm I did this took a bunch of programs, waited an hour while it said resolving dependencys and then it came back with "cannot resolve certain dependencys" and appears to have installed nothing.

argg argg argg what am I doing wrong.

[Dan]

Take it in smaller chunks. There's still a whopping load on the servers. Prioritize your schedule to get the most wanted stuff first. When and if you hit a bad dependency, just move to the next item on the list. You'll get most if not all of it that way.

BTW, Where did the hyperlink in the quote come from? I didn't post one!

Dan

[u-noneinc-s]

Tangledweb beat me to it, but when you get most of it done and if you still get dependencies errors, please post them (or better still, the whole output)

[sn68]

Had the same problem choosing Extras during the install. Anaconda gave the error message "..unable to unmount cdrom...whatever that meant :confused: !!!

I am having the same problem while installing FC6, however I am choosing the update existing installation which is FC5
Since I am updating existing installation, I dont get to deselect extras & get stuck with the error msg which goes in an endless loop
Anybody has any idea how to proceed furthur? :-(

[Dan]

Uh! Not fun, huh?

Well, My first suggestion is to back up your data and preference files, and do a complete fresh install of FC6, rather than an update. The update route has proved problematic to quite a few here on the forum.

BTW, did your install CDs/DVD pass the media test?

Dan

[sn68]

The DVD passed the media test, fresh install seems to be the only option now
I read some threads regarding the same error, even in fresh install one has to skip extras and then install them later on to circumvent the error
Doesn't speak much for a new release, while these things may be acceptable in a MS$ release, in linux I certainly didn't expect these things, more so after a flawless fc5 install which impressed me

[u-noneinc-s]

It seems a lot of Linux bugs are HW related and as has been said many times, They simply can't test for every possible situation or HW combination.

But I guess I have to agree with you in this case. There were a couple of big Oops's in FC6.

It's fortunate that there are workarounds. It's unfortunate that those workarounds aren't very obvious to those that don't first visit the forums. Of course, I haven't visited the release notes since I DL'd the CD's, maybe they have changed to reflect these bugs? (To be honest, I never thought to read the FC3 release notes until after I installed. Then I upgraded to FC5 without reading those notes, but by then I was a regular visitor to THIS forum and was well aware of the FC5 quirks).

[kwalker69]

I've had that Extras problem too, but I didn't think it was something that should be installed during the initial setup, so I had to do without it. I've noticed that my internet wasn't connecting at all to any web sites, so I put in an ethernet card I had. Then I had internet. My default way was through the Network port built in to the computer (which works for my Windows XP).. and then I updated (245 updates).

Now, my question is where or how do I get Extras? I've read in the posts above about Yum, particularly post no#9, but I haven't seen anywhere on the system to access it. I'll double check again and read up some more on Yum.

Also, is there a central location where I could read up on the programs I have installed and what they're for? While I was watching the installation, I noticed that this comes with many, many programs, which Im going to have to learn the terminology on them because none of you are talking slang, it's just that I don't understand many of the terms, let alone alot of the names. But this is going to be fun for me, although I'll have some issues.... but it's already been worth it.

Kevin

[marko]

Remember, if a particular fedora has a problem, you can also go get the
Fedora Respin, usually big issues are fixed in the respin.

http://fedoraunity.org/re-spins

Mark

[kwalker69]

After doing some searching on my system, I found a gold mine of information and softwares to install by going to Applications>Add/Remove Software. It then put me inside of the Package Manager. I clicked on a few unchecked tools/software I believe I'll be using and it's installing them now.

I had no idea there is so many great tools/software for this. Until I know what each program is and what they're for, I've just installed what I do know about that wasn't installed. Man, this list is huge, with all the addons (if that's what they're called in the *NIX world) that a person could ask for (hypothectically speaking).

I'm glad a learned a few new things about this today.. that's cool. And now some questions have been fullfilled. I feel I accomplished alot today, so far.

Now all I need to do is find exactly where the Yum is located so I can learn to use it, and what is it for in terms of RPM. I'm going to read up on the names listed in the Package Manager to get a better understanding of many of the programs definition of it's existence.

Kevin

[marko]

you can also use yumex, yumex is a GUI front end for yum. Unlike yum,
you can see all the updateable packages in yumex (packages on your system that
have newer versions at the repositories) and all the installable packages
(the packages on the repos that your system doesn't have installed yet)
as scrollable lists.

if you don't have it then run yum to install it by becoming root user
via su then using yum to install it.

First confirm you don't have yumex by running this at a terminal window prompt:

$> rpm -q yumex
(if no output results you don't have it, but if you see something like
this you do):

$> rpm -q yumex
yumex-1.2.3-1.0.fc6

$> su
(enter root password)
# yum install yumex
# yumex

That last command is just to run yumex, it will come up
and spend some time updating the package database
between your pc and the repositories. There's a button
in yumex to show you what repositories it knows of.

As far as rpm, the most useful commands I use with rpm are

rpm -q --dump <packagename>

This shows all the files installed for a rpm package on
your system and

rpm -qlp <rpmfilename>

that will show all the files packaged in an rpm file, for example

rpm -qlp freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-freshrpms
/etc/yum.repos.d/freshrpms.repo
/usr/share/doc/freshrpms-release-1.1
/usr/share/doc/freshrpms-release-1.1/GPL

[kwalker69]

I have tried the command
$> rpm -q yumex
but it comes back
bash: $: command not found

I thought I've installed it, but it seems I didn't. How do I install Yum, or the Yumex?

Also, what does the accronym RPM mean?

[UPDATE]
After reading and clicking on those links and buttons, I've found out what my problem was. I've had Yum installed, just as the list had it checked out. But I didn't reboot, so it never showed up although I knew I've installed a few programs, and some did show up. So now, when I do updates and such, I'll just be sure and reboot, especially when I'm in doubt about if I installed something correctly or is there a bug somewhere.

Once I learn what I need and don't need, I'll be good to go.
[UPDATE]
I now found out what I need to know about yum by going here:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/yum/en/

According to the page, it seems very important to have yum. But someone posted about yumex, and I think I saw it somewhere in the Package Manager.
I think I understand now. I Have Yum Extender. Is that yumex?


Thanks for your valued time.

Kevin

[marko]

Yum is "Yellow dog Updater Modified", it started as part of a linux distribution called
yellow dog (yellow dog is linux for Mac hardware)

http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/

RPM stands for Red hat Package Manager, it's referred to interchangably with both
the files (you have rpm files and use RPM to install/update them) and the rpm
tool that uses these files to store, install, remove and update software on linux.

So in my example where I had "rpm -q yumex" I was querying the rpm
tool on the host if the package "yumex" was installed.

Mark

[u-noneinc-s]

You also may need to be root to run the rpm command which may be why it said command not found. (I guess it depends on what's in your "path". I don't recall if /bin is default for users).

In Linux, you usually don't need to reboot for new packages to work. They will usually just pop up in your menu somewhere (sometimes with a generic name) Yumex may show up as yum extender (KDE anyway, I don't know what Gnome menu will show it as)

[marko]

You also may need to be root to run the rpm command which may be why it said command not found. (I guess it depends on what's in your "path". I don't recall if /bin is default for users).

In Linux, you usually don't need to reboot for new packages to work. They will usually just pop up in your menu somewhere (sometimes with a generic name) Yumex may show up as yum extender (KDE anyway, I don't know what Gnome menu will show it as)


Nope, anyone can do rpm query, it's a completely safe command and doesn't
change anything. Plus if you don't have permission in linux, it's not going to say
command not found but "permission denied".

It's acting more like his personal account doesn't have /bin on it's path.

Kevin could try the direct path to rpm with /bin/rpm -q yumex
if the path doesn't have /bin, that will work.

If that works, then he can fix that permanently by editing the
home directory's .bash_profile file to change:

PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin

to

PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:/bin

Mark

[u-noneinc-s]

OK, I'll buy that. I know I can (but don't remember if I alway could).
I was going to suggest /bin/rpm -q but I "dumbed out" for some (age related(?)) reason. :D :rolleyes: