Never bother with CS again

[Hiltonizer]

Found this relatively new Mod for Unreal Tournament 2004

It seems to be extremely popular in Germany where the majority of its developers are from, but seems to be growing steadily in north america.

http://www.to-crossfire.net/


The mod's makers make installers specifically for Linux, i say we support them and spread the word. This game has potential to grow tremendously, especially in the Linux crowd.

Hope you all enjoy, i'm very glad I found it.

[Maikel]

Wow, thats soo cool. Thanks for posting that. Im downloading it right now, but I cant find anything on installing it. Did you install it, if so how did you do it?

Edit: Ok it came with installer.

[jent]

I don't own a copy of UT 2004.....YET......this looks so awesome. Going to be picking up a copy this week and trying it out..

Nice find, thanks

[Thetargos]

This is indeed a nice game, I have tried it after I saw a posting about it on linux-gamers.net

[deepfreeze]

I thought it is a free game :(

and I dont own a UT 2004 :(

[Hiltonizer]

beauty part is, i got my UT2k4 license brand new on ebay for like $20

its worth it given the amount of mods there are for it, and the game itself.

[Thetargos]

I thought it is a free game :(

and I dont own a UT 2004 :(
It's a game, which is built on top of the infrastructure provided by native UT2004, so you must have UT2004 installed for it to properly work, however the content of the mod is free. Maybe they could include the binaries for UT2004, as they are freely distributed in the patches; however if they required any additional stuff from the main UT2004 installation (textures, meshes and the like) they'd be using Epic licensed stuff, and they couldn't bundle those with the rest of their mod.

[Hiltonizer]

Hopefully they will do what the developers of quake did. They GPL'd the source to quake 3 recently. Maybe we can expect the source for UT2k4 when 2k7 arrives.

Hense: http://tremulous.net/ was born (free and open game on the Q3 engine.. not too bad)

[Thetargos]

I wouldn't count on that, as the Unreal Engine is used for more stuff than only games. For instance I know that the original Unreal Engine was also used for an architectural program which allowed for virtual building of real estate developments and virtually "walk through" these environments. AFAIK some architects actually used this program (starting with Unreal, actually) to demonstrate projects to potential buyers and customers, so I'm not 100% sure they will GPL the UE. If they would have ever done that, they should have by now GPL'ed the UE1 (Unreal, Unreal Tournament '99), however Epic can always surprise us.

[Thetargos]

Hense: http://tremulous.net/ was born (free and open game on the Q3 engine.. not too bad)
By the way, this game looks rather interesting!

[jent]

can anyone comment on the quality of physics of this game? Better or worse than counter strike?

[Maikel]

Quick question for you guys who got it going. I got the MOD installed and it made a "TOCrossfire" folder in my ut2004 game folder and it made a "runTOC.sh" in my home folder. I right clicked and made sure it is executable but it wont start the game. When I choose run in term. the terminal is blank and then goes away, does nothing. When I click display it shows this

#!/bin/bash

sh /home/Mike/LocalApps/ut2004/ut2004 -MOD=TOCrossfire -log=TOCrossfire.log

Have I done everything correctly, what else am I missing? I really wanna play this. Thanks

[Thetargos]

sh /home/Mike/LocalApps/ut2004/ut2004
Is this where you installed UT2004?

And check the .log file for any clues too.

[Thetargos]

can anyone comment on the quality of physics of this game? Better or worse than counter strike?
I haven't played CS:S so I can't tell you. However if you've ever played UT2004, and are familiar with its physics engine and effects, you can somewhat guess what it is like.

[Maikel]

Ya thats where I installed ut2004. How do I check the .log file?

I used to play CS1.6 and source like crazy, I let you know how it is when I get it going.

[Thetargos]

Ya thats where I installed ut2004. How do I check the .log file?
In your "local" UT2004 directory (~/.ut2004) under System, you will find the .log file.

[Maikel]

I dont think I have that file Thetargos. I have a ton of files I went through each one but I didnt see a log file or even a .log file. I didnt see one in the TOCrossfire system folder either. What does that mean? ut2004 itself plays fine.

Edit: After a little research not everyone has a log file apparently. I guess you only get one if your game crashes, not sure really. Anyway they dont give a answer and its not for the mod either.
http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2328&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&type=&mode=0&start=0

[Hiltonizer]

can anyone comment on the quality of physics of this game? Better or worse than counter strike?


I've been a hardcore CS player since 1.3, and played Source regularly when it came out. The graphics don't even compare to TOC. The detail put into every map is absolutely amazing.

[Maikel]

OK Ive found my .log files. I had to enable hidden files in my home directory, and then I found another .ut2004 file.

And heres my TOCrossfire log file:

Log: Log file open, Tue Jul 18 20:13:34 2006
Init: Name subsystem initialized
Init: Version: 3369 (128.29)
Init: Compiled: Dec 16 2005 13:23:47
Init: Command line: -MOD=TOCrossfire -log=TOCrossfire.log
Init: (This is Linux patch version 3369.2)
Init: Character set: Unicode
Init: Base directory: /home/Mike/LocalApps/ut2004/System/
Init: Ini:../TOCrossfire/System/TOCrossfire.ini UserIni:../TOCrossfire/System/TOCrossfireUser.ini
Init: Build label: UT2004 Build UT2004_Build_[2005-11-23_16.22]
Init: Object subsystem initialized
Warning: Failed to load 'TO2_EffectSounds': Can't find file for package 'TO2_EffectSounds'
Warning: Failed to load 'TO2_Effects': Can't find file for package 'TO2_EffectSounds'
Warning: Failed to load 'TO2_System': Can't find file for package 'TO2_EffectSounds'
Warning: Failed to load 'Class TO2_System.TO2_GameEngine': Can't find file for package 'TO2_EffectSounds'
Warning: Can't find file for package 'TO2_EffectSounds'
Critical: Can't find file for package 'TO2_EffectSounds'
Exit: Executing UObject::StaticShutdownAfterError
Exit: Exiting.
Log: FileManager: Reading 0 GByte 1 MByte 981 KByte 920 Bytes from HD took 0.010338 seconds (0.010338 reading, 0.000000 seeking).
Log: FileManager: 0.000000 seconds spent with misc. duties
Uninitialized: Name subsystem shut down
Uninitialized: Log file closed, Tue Jul 18 20:13:35 2006

Hope you guys can help me now.
Also I have a ucc.log file, let me know if you want that too.

[Thetargos]

It is badly installed, try installing the mod again, here's the clue:

Critical: Can't find file for package 'TO2_EffectSounds'

[cypher543]

Those have to be pre-rendered screenshots, right? I mean, for a UT2004 mod, that looks almost Elder Scrolls Oblivion-like.

[Thetargos]

Not exactly. They make clever use of Coronas and volumetric lightning (a feature part of the Unreal Engine since Unreal Engine 1). The mod is high quality, though.

[Hiltonizer]

Who's up for starting a massive Clan of only Fedora players? :-D

[Thetargos]

I would like to first get the whole Tactical Shooter aspect of the game (no, I had never played any other tactical shooter before, not even Team Fortress 1 back in the day)

[3006828]

dude shooting is fun :)

does look lovely.. will be awaiting a monter upgrade beforei can play such preeties :'( sniff sniff

im in on fedora clan.. :D

[jent]

er i don't mean to sound like a newbiew.....but I have ut2004 installed, i have use the installer on crossfire 1.0 beta and then 1.2beta and it says they are sucessfull.....but I can't figure out how to launch crossfire, any help out there?

[Thetargos]

Where did you place the runTOC.sh script? You will have to use that, and depending on the location of your UT2K4 installation, you may require to edit the launcher script. I had to edit it, as I'm using the 64-bit version of UT2K4

[jent]

Where did you place the runTOC.sh script? You will have to use that, and depending on the location of your UT2K4 installation, you may require to edit the launcher script. I had to edit it, as I'm using the 64-bit version of UT2K4

I have not placted the runTOC.sh script anywhere. Where are you seeing this file? Do I need to create it? UT2004 is located at /usr/local/games/UT2004/

I have not been able to find any documentation for the crossfire install, so if you know where that is please link me. Thanks

[jent]

oh my bad....i found the runTOC.sh file. I was looking in bin's and the install path, never checked the home directory. Unfortantly when I execute it I get a new error:
...
Exporting OBJ-Rage.....Successful!
Exporting OBJ-Salsa.....Successful!
Exporting OBJ-Dagger.....Successful!
Exporting OBJ-Downtown.....Successful!
Exporting OBJ-Avion.....Successful!
Exporting OBJ-Anvil.....Successful!
Signal: SIGSEGV [segmentation fault]
Aborting.


Crash information will be saved to your logfile.

================================================== ======
Here is the log file:

Log: Log file open, Tue Jul 25 11:00:12 2006
Init: Name subsystem initialized
Init: Version: 3369 (128.29)
Init: Compiled: Dec 2 2005 19:36:10
Init: Command line: -MOD=TOCrossfire -log=TOCrossfire.log
Init: (This is Linux patch version 3369.0)
Init: Character set: Unicode
Init: Base directory: /usr/local/games/ut2004/System/
Init: Ini:../TOCrossfire/System/TOCrossfire.ini UserIni:../TOCrossfire/System/TOCrossfireUser.ini
Init: Build label: UT2004 Build UT2004_Build_[2005-11-23_16.22]
Init: Object subsystem initialized
Log: Initializing OpenGLDrv...
Log: binding libGL.so.1
Log: Game class is 'GameInfo'
Log: Bringing Level Entry.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 3.032862...
ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False
Log: Browse: Intro.to2?Name=TOCPlayer?Class=Engine.Pawn?Charact er=Wraith?team=255?Sex=M
Log: Collecting garbage
Log: Purging garbage
Log: Garbage: objects: 43191->39525; refs: 417844
Log: Game class is 'CinematicGame'
Log: Bringing Level Intro.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 6.448137...
ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False
Log: Created and initialized a new SDL viewport.
Log: Exporting OBJ-SunsetBlossom.....Successful!
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.Options2DShaperExtrudeToBevel
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.Options2DShaperExtrudeToPoint
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.Options2DShaperExtrude
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.Options2DShaperRevolve
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsBrushScale
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.Options2DShaperBezierDetail
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsSurfBevel
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsTexAlignPlanar
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsTexAlignCylinder
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsNewTerrain
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsNewTerrainLayer
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsMapScale
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsMatNewCameraPath
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsMatNewStaticMesh
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsDupTexture
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsRotateActors
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.OptionsNewClassFromSel
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.TexAlignerPlanar
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.TexAlignerDefault
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.TexAlignerBox
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.TexAlignerFace
Warning: Missing Class Class UnrealEd.Options2DShaperSheet
Warning: Missing Texture Texture TO2_SpinGenTex.General.uv2crane
Warning: Missing Texture Texture TO2_elsombrero_salsa.cipe.stone-tile
Warning: Missing Shader Shader TO2_PS-MapPack2.UVMaps.PS-TelephoneFinal
Log: Exporting OBJ-StGeorge.....Successful!
Warning: Missing Cubemap Cubemap AW-Cubes.Cubes.MesaEnv2
Log: Exporting OBJ-CaspianSea.....Successful!
Log: Exporting OBJ-Province.....Successful!
Warning: Missing Cubemap Cubemap AW-Cubes.Cubes.PS_Cube
Warning: Missing TexEnvMap TexEnvMap AW-Cubes.Cubes.SunC
Log: Exporting OBJ-Prelude.....Successful!
Log: Exporting OBJ-Medina.....Successful!
Log: Exporting OBJ-Rage.....Successful!
Log: Exporting OBJ-Salsa.....Successful!
Log: Exporting OBJ-Dagger.....Successful!
Log: Exporting OBJ-Downtown.....Successful!
Log: Exporting OBJ-Avion.....Successful!
Log: Exporting OBJ-Anvil.....Successful!
Log:
Developer Backtrace:
Log: [ 1] ./ut2004-bin [0x873df19]
Log: [ 2] [0xb36420]
Log: [ 3] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN11ULinkerLoadC1EP7UObjectPKwj+0x932) [0x86ee8e2]
Log: [ 4] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN7UObject16GetPackageLinkerEPS_PKwjP11UPacka geMapP5FGuidi+0x1d4) [0x8716624]
Log: [ 5] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN7UObject16StaticLoadObjectEP6UClassPS_PKwS4 _jP11UPackageMap+0x1cb) [0x871720b]
Log: [ 6] ./ut2004-bin(_ZNK13UCacheManager15ExportCacheMapsERK7FStrin gPKwR6TArrayIS0_E+0x457) [0x864f0f7]
Log: [ 7] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN13UCacheManager15SaveNewPackagesEP13FCacheT rackerP17FCacheFileManagerPKwPK7FString+0x257) [0x8640ec7]
Log: [ 8] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN13UCacheManager9InitCacheEPKw+0x201) [0x863edd1]
Log: [ 9] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN13UCacheManager13execInitCacheER6FFramePv+0 x5b) [0x86396cb]
Log: [10] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN7UObject15execHighNative3ER6FFramePv+0x5f) [0x86e2f6f]
Log: [11] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN7UObject16execClassContextER6FFramePv+0x1ca ) [0x86c327a]
Log: [12] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN7UObject15ProcessInternalER6FFramePv+0x185) [0x86e8155]
Log: [13] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN7UObject12ProcessEventEP9UFunctionPvS2_+0x1 f7) [0x86e8477]
Log: [14] ./ut2004-bin(_ZN11UGameEngine4InitEv+0x1953) [0x82addc3]
Log: [15] ./ut2004-bin [0x8158609]
Log: [16] ./ut2004-bin(main+0x33b4) [0x81531a4]
Log: [17] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc) [0xb69724]
Log: [18] ./ut2004-bin(readdir+0x99) [0x814fba1]
Log: Unreal Call Stack: LoadExportMap <- ULinkerLoad::ULinkerLoad <- UObject::GetPackageLinker <- UObject::StaticLoadObject <- UCacheManager::ExportCacheMaps <- NewMaps <- UCacheManager::SaveNewPackages <- UCacheManager::InitCache <- UCacheManager::execInitCache <- UObject::execClassContext <- UObject::ProcessEvent <- UGameEngine::Init <- InitEngine
Exit: Exiting.
Log: FileManager: Reading 0 GByte 1 MByte 685 KByte 603 Bytes from HD took 0.007886 seconds (0.007886 reading, 0.000000 seeking).
Log: FileManager: 0.000000 seconds spent with misc. duties
Uninitialized: Name subsystem shut down
Uninitialized: Allocation checking disabled
Uninitialized: Log file closed, Tue Jul 25 11:00:22 2006
=================

It looks to me like it is having issues starting the engine, and yet I can play UT2004 just fine. Any help would be greatly apreciated. Thanks

I installed version 1.0 and it said it was sucessful, and i then applied the patch to bring it up to 1.2 and it also was sucessful.

[Thetargos]

Well, it looks as if you did not installed correctly. Make sure you install as root or have write perms as your user in the main UT2004 installation, there are way too many missing things that probably mean they were not copied..

[jent]

i found the problem....i had installed the 3369 patch not realizing there is a 3369-2....the new patch fixed me right up....sorry to bug you guys

[Thetargos]

Glad ti hear you got it working!

[Maikel]

Im an idiot, I got it working too. I never installed v.1.0 I just installed 1.2 and thought thats was all I need to do. After reading Jents post that he installed 1.0 first then 1.2 I thought, oops. Anyway its pretty cool alternative to the real CS, and Im happy. Thanks for tring to help me guys, you probably thought I had brains and read the web-site instructions, lol.